In Design file sizes astronomical!

[dani_s...@adobeforums.com]

I am using In Design CS2 Ver 4.0.3. in Windows. Using 3.4 Gig ram, and 50 gig free space avail on my hard drive.

The file I am working on is 238 pages long, and is 165m in size. Most pages contain 10 pictures, in *.tif format.

I was concerned about the file size, so I divided up this document into the letters of the alphabet, i.e., the "A" sections now go into the "A" document, etc. I set up these new files into a book, which includes the TOC, A-Z files, and the Index.

The total document size of this project is now 1.5 GIG! I didn't add any pages or graphics when I divided it into separate files... so I don't get it. Plus, the individual files are rather large. For instance, "C" is 11 pages long, and the file size is 155megs.

I thought dividing up the file into separate files and into a book would make this more efficient. Should I have left it as one document instead? Would a single document that is 165m (and will be growing as new pages are entered) still be stable, or is it getting close to the filesize cap and may get corrupted?

I know hitting File > Save As helps keep the file size down, but any other tips to keep this project from exploding?

[Peter...@adobeforums.com]

Are you linking or embedding all those tiffs?

[Scott_...@adobeforums.com]

Also try doing a Save As every once in a while.

[Gerald_S...@adobeforums.com]

And turn off ColourManagement if you do not use it anyway.

[dani_s...@adobeforums.com]

The images are linked. I couldn't imagine how large this would be if they were imbedded! The files that are linked are around 1,875kb each. And I do the File > Save As often, hoping to shrink these down a bit.

[Peter...@adobeforums.com]

Breaking the document into sections should make it easier to deal with in terms of finding pages for editing, and in case of damage to one section, only that section is damaged, thereby offering a bit more safety for the project.

The downside is that you add a certain amount of file overhead for each file, but it should be on the order of less than 1mb, unless you have the file loaded with dozens of swatches and styles, which take up space.
If that's the case, delete unused styles and swatches, do another save as, and see if that helps.

Are you using version cue to save versions? That will eat a lot of space in a hurry, too.

[dani_s...@adobeforums.com]

I can go ahead and remove unused styles. I don't use any swatches. I don't use version cue (don't know what that is). Also, how do you turn off Colour Management (still trying to find that in the help section). All of the images (except the cover) are b/w, so I don't need color management for this project.

[Jo...@adobeforums.com]

Is your display resolution set at high quality? That'll add some overhead,
too.

-John O

[dani_s...@adobeforums.com]

It is set to Typical Display.

[Robert Tkaczyk]

Jo...@adobeforums.com napisa?(a):

> Is your display resolution set at high quality? That'll add some overhead,
> too.

it is not making any difference

robin

[Robert Tkaczyk]

> Most pages contain 10 pictures, in *.tif format.

stupid question ... do you have new files on each page - or you have the
same 10 files placed on MasterPage ??

what with transparency ??

how looks your TIF file ?? like gray photo with landscape or all white
with one black point ?? ;) do you use LZW/ZIP compression in your TIFs
?? what PPI(DPI) ??

save your TIF without compression - and then check it's real size ;)

robin

[dani_s...@adobeforums.com]

There are 10 new files per page, none on the master. The TIFs are just gray images against a white background, such as just a bird, or just a castle. They are generally 2" tall at 50 dpi, with the image cropped to encompass the gray. The TIFs are not compressed, as I was afraid of losing detail down the line with re-editing.

[dani_s...@adobeforums.com]

Ok, I think I've got it now! Stripped out the unused styles, Re-synchronized the book, repaginated (why not?), then File>Save As each document in the book. NOW.... the whole project total is only 1.77 megs. Thanks all for the help!

[Peter...@adobeforums.com]

Either it was quite a while since you did a save as for the individual files, or you had one heck of a lot of unused styles to get that big a shift. :)

All kidding aside, though, is that number right? It sounds more like the size of the .indb book file alone. I don't know how you could get more than twenty files (I'm presuming you have a file for nearly every letter in the alphabet) --even without links-- to have an aggregate size that small.

[dani_s...@adobeforums.com]

I haven't worked on this particular project in a couple of months... so I couldn't say specifically when the last File > Save As was done on the orig file. Since I was using File > Save As to create the new files of this particular project, I figured that was sufficient. But, apparently, a SECOND File > Save As was needed (odd, odd...). So, something to keep in mind for the future I guess. And yes, that number is correct. The indb file was only 64kb.

[Jo...@adobeforums.com]

>The TIFs are not compressed, as I was afraid of losing detail down the line
>with re-editing.

If you're concerned about compressing tiffs with LZW in Photoshop, don't be.
LZW is lossless compression, and no detail is lost whatsoever..unlike jpeg,
where your concerns are valid. With grayscale tiffs, the compression can be
4 or 5 to 1, or higher. :-)

-John O