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Problems with ArialMT and Arial when exporting PDF

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Owen Clay

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May 29, 2003, 10:48:42 AM5/29/03
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I have created a document using ID2 and have expoerted as a PDF. All the text in the document is using Arial or Arial Bold. When viewing the document in Acrobat 5, all is fine. However, the PDF is used as a template for ActivePDF and has form fields on. When ActivePDF works its magic, all the text on the document gets messed up.

After much prodding and searching, I have discovered that the problem is that the font used in the PDF is actually ArialMT (a multibyte font) not Arial (a singlebyte font). Is there anyway I can force ID2 to use Arial rather than ArialMT? The only other way I have found around this is to change every single line to Arial in Acrobat which takes an age when there are 3 pages of 7pt text to work through!

If I can't do it in ID2, can I batch process all the text in Acrobat 5?

Ken Grace

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May 29, 2003, 1:19:07 PM5/29/03
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<<Is there anyway I can force ID2 to use Arial rather than ArialMT?>>

Hide it.

Having two versions of the same font available can lead to havoc that might
not show til much later down the line. I recently had problems with type at
final output getting grossly out of alignment, the reason seeming to be (and
I don't know for sure) that InDesign was using one font while Distiller
seemed to pick up some spacing attributes from the other and the combination
was a mess.

I solved it by deciding which version of the font I wanted, and moving all
instances of the other version to a 'Fonts-old' folder whether neither
InDesign nor Distiller could find them.

k


Owen Clay

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May 29, 2003, 3:04:08 PM5/29/03
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I thought of that but when browsing my font directory I only have one Arial font (Arial.ttf). There is certainly no ArialMT that I can see. The only other Arial fonts I have are the usual variations (bold, italic, narrow etc.)

Is it likely that some of my fonts are hidden somehow? Could it be that Arial.ttf has a Monotype font subsetted into it?

M Blackburn

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May 29, 2003, 4:04:44 PM5/29/03
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When I make a PDF using Arial, Acrobat indicates the type name to be ArialMT. I can change the name back and forth at will — I don't think it's a different font at all, just what Acrobat is picking up as the name.

But the name change might be confusing your ActivePDF. Have you experimented with a PDF that has been re-saved with the font renamed as Arial?

Alan Claytor

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May 29, 2003, 4:23:25 PM5/29/03
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Owen,

Most of the default Windows fonts are from Monotype. The fonts installed with 2k and XP are actually Opentype (doublebyte) fonts. Distiller also pulls type1 fonts from program files/common files/adobe/fonts/reqrd/base.

Alan

Tudor M. Vedeanu

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May 31, 2003, 2:45:38 AM5/31/03
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I opened Arial.TTF (WinXP OpenType font) in FontLab and under "Font Info" I
saw the following:
- Family Name: Arial
- Style Name: Regular
- Font Name: ArialMT

So there's only one font named Arial. Some programs are able to read it's
name as ArialMT, taken from that "Font Name" field.

Tudor M. Vedeanu

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Owen Clay

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Jul 10, 2003, 1:23:21 PM7/10/03
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OK, so it's been a while but I have now come back to this.

I still haven't managed to sort out why ID2 only lists Arial as a font. Illustrator lists both Arial and Arial MT. WHen I copy the text from ID2 into Illustrator it lists it as Arial, NOT Arial MT.

Looked in program files/common files/adobe/fonts/reqrd/base and could see no Arial font file in there.

Does anyone know of a batch process I can do on the text in Acrobat?

Dominic Hurley

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Jul 10, 2003, 7:50:20 PM7/10/03
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It sounds like you have both the OpenType Arial that comes with Windows (Arial) and the Type 1 Arial that comes with Acrobat (Arial MT) on your system. I don't know wy they're not both showing up in ID if they both show up in Illustrator (I'm assuming here that Illustrator uses the same common fonts folder as ID), unless you perhaps have different printers selected in Illustrator and ID. Maybe you're selecting a printer font. Arial MT (Type 1) has the filenames _A______.pfm, _A______.pfb. Are these files present on your PC?

niuato...@gmail.com

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Mar 10, 2013, 7:41:58 AM3/10/13
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Hello everyone.
This forum thread is really old, but i figured maybe i'd give it a shot.
i'm working on an SVG with illustrator where the font should be "Arial".
Though everytime I save it the font is always change dto Arial MT!! And this is not allowed to happen as it may not work with our program where we insert the SVG into...

Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks.

Helpful Harry

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Mar 10, 2013, 3:53:55 PM3/10/13
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In article <794c941a-f721-4eee...@googlegroups.com>,
niuato...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hello everyone.
> This forum thread is really old, but i figured maybe i'd give it a shot.
> i'm working on an SVG with illustrator where the font should be "Arial".
> Though everytime I save it the font is always change dto Arial MT!! And
> this is not allowed to happen as it may not work with our program where
> we insert the SVG into...

I can't think of any reason why it would matter, let alone not be allowed
to happen, but it's it's really that serious a problem, then you could
either change to a different font or convert the text to paths (making
sure you also keep a copy of the original document with normal editable
text).

Helpful Harry :o)

luckno...@gmail.com

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