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transparant tabel how?

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elineouwehand

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Mar 20, 2003, 3:33:54 AM3/20/03
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how can i make my tabel transparant in indesign? just i row or cell, not the whole thing? anybody?

DavidT

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Mar 20, 2003, 5:08:51 AM3/20/03
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Long way round:

Select your row or cell

Go to table menu

Cell options...strokes and fills

Set fill to none

Shorter:

Select your row or cell

'x' to switch between stroke or fill

Click on your colour swatch ('none' in your case)

elineouwehand

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Mar 21, 2003, 9:36:06 AM3/21/03
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It's not what i mean, thank you anyway, i have for instance, an picture underneath, my table is blue coloured, but i want it transparant so you can see the picture through the transparant blue of my table.

Marco Antonio SantaMaria

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Mar 21, 2003, 9:43:50 AM3/21/03
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r u talking background color or actual lines and text color?

elineouwehand

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Mar 21, 2003, 10:36:46 AM3/21/03
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the colour of the cells for instance, i know that if i select the whole table, i can use transparancy, but my text and cell lines (borders?) will also be transparant, but i only want the cell colour to be transparant, i know it's possible, but how??? : (

Dave Saunders

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Mar 21, 2003, 11:02:08 AM3/21/03
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The reference to the blue of the cells. I took that to mean that the cells are colored and the picture is expected to show through the color.

If I'm overinterpreting then indeed, there doesn't seem to be a question to ask/answer here. If the table cells have no fill the picture will show through.

Dave

Sandee Cohen

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Mar 21, 2003, 10:57:42 AM3/21/03
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Why do I have a feeling that the answer is really simple.

I place a picture on a page.

I create a separate text frame with no fill. I insert a table into that frame. I enter data into the table.

I put the text frame that contains the table over the picture. You see the picture under the table.

What am I missing here?

Dave Saunders

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Mar 21, 2003, 10:52:07 AM3/21/03
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To do what you want you need to take some extraordinary steps. Transparency doesn't work for individual elements (like the fill of a cell of a table in a frame).

It works on the whole frame and everything in it.

So, to get a transparent background for a table that doesn't also affect the text in the cells in the table, you need to create a separate frame and put it behind the table. Let the fill of that frame serve as the background of your table (if you want different rows in the table to have different colored backgrounds then it gets even more complicated).

One way to do this is to use an inline graphic. Draw the frame the right size and put it in a paragraph of its own immediately before the table. Give the paragraph a small fixed leading (could even be zero) and drag the frame down as far as it will go so it sits behind the table.

Getting the frame to be exactly the right size and exactly the right offset from its baseline can be fiddly and is probably best done with a script.

Dave

Marco Antonio SantaMaria

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Mar 21, 2003, 11:29:45 AM3/21/03
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I beleive he want the blue background on the cell have a tranparency. In This instance you wil have to deal with three items?layer from top to bottom: Text frame comntaining your table, same size frme with your blue color, set this to the desire transparency, finally your picture frame.

Dave Saunders

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Mar 21, 2003, 11:37:02 AM3/21/03
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Ah, I didn't realize we're talking about only one cell.

In that case, scrub what I said above. Give that cell a fill of none. Now make a rectangle the same size as the cell and make it a transparent blue. Cut and paste it into the cell as an inline frame within the text of the cell. Again, you might have to fiddle to get things just right. The insets of the cell will need to be zero.

Dave

Marco Antonio SantaMaria

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Mar 21, 2003, 12:52:47 PM3/21/03
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Actaully I think he wants all cells.

Dave, thanks for the comment, it support the other way I was thinking on accomlishing this per cell.

elineouwehand

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Apr 3, 2003, 9:47:07 AM4/3/03
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yippie, dave rescued me! thanks you all!
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