Re: Missing Navigator panel in ID CS4

[Gordo...@adobeforums.com]

Wow I see Adobe haven't learned since they removed DynamicLink from GoLive, now they get rid of a very useful feature from InDesign and yet leave it in their other software.

BRING BACK NAVIGATOR !!!

[Amanda_B...@adobeforums.com]

I vote to bring back the Navigator. Power Zoom is a slick idea, but doesn't zoom out to show the entire page or spread. If Adobe can get it to zoom out further, I might be a bigger fan of the Power Zoom. Navigator will always be a faster way to go in my opinion.

[Peter...@adobeforums.com]

Amanda,

If you are doing it correctly, the power zoom should go all the way out to show the whole pasteboard with the familiar red outline showing the current zoomed view. You can then use the scroll wheel or arrow keys to zoom to a different size when you release the mouse.

[Buko]

Power zoom works great with a stylus. I was skeptical at first but now I much prefer it and it leaves room for more panels.

[Garrett_...@adobeforums.com]

Well,

I was thinking about buying CS4 and came here to find out if I could get it without the Bridge, but now will wait and find out if the navigator is put back in CS5 and I can use it without a bridge.

I really don't understand Adobe development. I tried Photoshop CS3 and it was problematic for me on my G4 and froze my son's G5 during installation, now my son and I are both totally content with GIMP. I'm old but Adobe completely lost a 12 year-old who would have been buying upgrades for the rest of his life. (It was faster and easier to download and install GIMP than to screw up installing a weirdly complicated and huge Photoshop CS3).

I waited through CS3 InDesign because InBooklet is a must have for my multi chapter manuals. I was once regular Adobe upgrader but stopped at Photoshop 7, Illustrator 10, and ID CS2.

What happens to Adobe if the open source movement comes out with a layout program of the same quality as GIMP? Seems to me there's some kind of customer disconnect behind the sales counter at Adobe.

Garrett

[Peter...@adobeforums.com]

I'm afraid I don't understand the connection between Bridge, which is a file manager application bundled with the other apps, and Navigator, which was a way to move around inside the document. The two are totally unrelated.

Peter

[Derick...@adobeforums.com]

I never use Bridge so maybe thats why I view it as completely unnecessary. I'm guessing thats why he doesn't want it as well. I may be wrong but I believe PS installs it as part of the program but it comes with the rest of the CS as a separate program as well. I believe he is just stating that he doesn't want to have to deal with having Bridge taking up space on his PC or he doesn't want it for some other reason. I'd say that the missing Navigator panel shouldn't be the reason not to upgrade. Although, ID didn't really get much in CS4 anyway so you won't miss out on much. PS got a few big upgrades like Open GL and AI (and PS) got a few other huge feature enhancements. So if you are looking to upgrade the entire suite then its worth it. Also, I have CS4 on Mac and PC and the PC version has a much better Photoshop than that of the Mac version. There are a few very small things in the app that are broken on Mac but on PC they seem to work just fine.

Derick

[Peter...@adobeforums.com]

ID didn't really get much in CS4 anyway

I consider cross references, GREP styles, improved preflight, and nested line styles to be pretty significant, just off the top of my head, and I like the tabbed interface, if not the color scheme.

But the point is if you don't want to use bridge you don't need to, and I suspect you can even bypass installing it. But I'd give it a try, myself. The new bridge has some nice features for grouping assets and placing into ID.

Peter

[boblevine]

AFAIK, Bridge is installed by default with all point products. If you're
not using it, you're cheating yourself.

Bob

[Peter...@adobeforums.com]

Bridge is installed by default with all point products

But, do you know, does it HAVE to be installed?

If you're not using it, you're cheating yourself.

Couldn't agree more. :)

[boblevine]

> But, do you know, does it HAVE to be installed?

I believe so. I don't recall seeing it as a choice.

Bob

[Cyndee_...@adobeforums.com]

If you're not using it, you're cheating yourself. (re Bridge)

Why do you say that? I have only found it awkward (and very slow loading) on
an otherwise fast enough system.

Other than a file preview what does it do for you? Please explain as maybe I
haven't given it an adequate chance.

Cyndee

[Peter...@adobeforums.com]

It can be slow to load, but it provides a nice way to navigate images that (at least Windows Explorer) can't display using thumbnails and at the same time provides access to the metadata and profile information so you can see at a glance what the difference is between two similar images, plus it has some useful scripts for things like contact sheets.

I don't use it nearly as often as I should, but whenever I really need to find a customer image it's the first thing I fire up.

[Nini Tjäder]

Bridge is not only for images even though it maimly is used for that by most users. It can also preview both InDesign documents and PDFs, you use it for webgalleries creation and contactsheets and some other stuff too as well as for slideshows, adding and editing meta-data for files, just to mention a few things. You can also use Bridge to place directly from it by dragging and dropping into InDesign for instance.

And no, it is not a choice to install or not install it. It always gets installed with either the Suite or standalone versions. As for the speed, CS4 is far faster than any previous version. Don't judge it by how it performed once upon a time when it was a new application. It has evolved a lot since.

Derrick - the Navigator panel will not reappear. What is gone is gone. I've never seen a feature that was already taken away reappering in a later version. That will not happen.