File/OPEN Dialog sort order??

[blueduckpictures]

Does anyone know how (if?) the default ARRANGE ICONS BY.. order can be set in the File/Open dialog?

On my system, it always defaults to LIST view, sorted by NAME. On a colleague's PC, it defaults to LIST view, sorted by DATE.

No matter how I re-sort, the file dialog always defaults to this default. Anyone know why this is?

[BobHill]

Blue,

The order of files/folders is set by however you set it in My Computer or Explorer, and you'll be very sorry if you ever establish the default as other than SORT by NAME. And also as Name with ASCENDING order instead of DECENDING order. But to change it, if that's what you wish, use Explorer, DETAILS view and just click on the option name you wish to sort by and toggle that for ascending or decending order. You can SORT by anything on that list of options (NAME, SIZE, TYPE, MODIFIED DATE, ascending or decending order. LIST is best also, as if you ever wish to check a particular file, just right click on it, Properties. Or temporarily use Details, but LIST will give you the best view for the number of files/folders in a folder or Drive.

Bob

[blueduckpictures]

Bob,

Thanks for the idea. Sadly, I'm experiencing the wrong sort-order only in Photoshop and Illustrator. The folders themselves are behaving normally, as is Windows Explorer.

Is there some kind of app-specific registry setting that these apps. follow?

--Rob

[blueduckpictures]

Bob,

The folders themselves can be changed to various sort orders, and those are remembered by Windows Explorer. But regardless of the individual folder settings, PS6 and ILLUSTRATOR always show me LIST / by NAME when I choose FILE-OPEN.

(try it yourself - do you get different sort orders for different folders if you change their settings in Explorer?)

--Rob

[BobHill]

Rob,

The file/folder sorting is not done by any Adobe program. That's a function of Windows. It's also possible that you have the order of sorting ONLY in a folder that you use for those programs. That also can be done. Have you checked those folders and how they look in Windows Explorer (LOGO key plus letter E)? Also, from the way you are writing (naming Icons as your way of seeing files), makes me think you have not gone into TOOLS, FOLDER OPTIONS, VIEW and UNCHECK "Hide Extensions for Known File Types" ... You WANT to see extensions and Windows isn't always 100% with assigning the proper icons to the right files (especially when associations have been changed.
Bob

[BobHill]

Rob,

File, Open and on the right side are buttons. One of which is VIEW. I forgot about that on Illustrator 10. What do you have set there.

Bob

[Philip Peterson]

I ran into this problem a couple of years ago (photoshop would always show items in reverse alphabetical order). I'll see if I can recall how I fixed it. Seems to me it wound up being something wacky in the registry.

Also a quicky windows explorer tip. If you hold the Alt key as you are exiting a file in explorer, it will "remember" how you were viewing that file, and open the file in the same view mode/item order the next time you go to that folder.

[blueduckpictures]

Bob -

View Menu defaults to LIST. I can switch to DETAILS and re-sort, but when I go back to OPEN again, it reverts to LIST and the default sort order again.

Philip -

I'll sure appreciate it if your brain comes up with an old memory. I figured it would probably be a screwy rogue registry entry somewhere, but I can't find it..

--Rob

[blueduckpictures]

Bob,

I've got a request in w/ the Product people as well.. though it may be undocumented, it already must BE a "feature", as it's different between my two systems. Somewhere, somehow, it can be changed...

--Rob

[BobHill]

Philip may just have the solution with the problem being a Registry tag somewhere. I can change the Details Sorting and ascend/decend, but as with you, it defaults back to NAME and ascending. But that's the way I want it to be, so it's not a problem for me. Unless Teri can come up with a way to change the menu Default, and it's something you'd like to see, why don't you add that as a Feature Request (top topic inlist) and add it to Product Feature Requests <http://www.adobe.com/support/feature.html>

Bob

[Philip Peterson]

Unfortunatly it was at least two years ago, and I can't remember/find the solution. What operating system is blueduck useing?

[blueduckpictures]

Philip -

Win2K is the platter of choice at the moment. I've been searching for weeks myself, with no luck.

Maybe I'll just backup the registry and start tearing big sections of it out... process of elimination, dontchyaknow..

--Rob

[Philip Peterson]

The problem we had a couple of years ago was with win98 (I think).

I've tried some google searches (using: sort order windows registry change "open file dialog") looking for solutions. I did find this:

"Another guy's solution, which I did not try, was to tweak the registry:

1. Invoke C:\Windows\Regedit.exe.

2. Follow the tree of names to
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer.

3. If nec, edit the "ShellState" value to be:

1C 00 00 00 A7 02 [14 "00"'s] 01 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00"

but I do not know what order that would put things in, or even if it would work.

[Philip Peterson]

Another goolge hit. Try this:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=+%22file/open+dialog+sort+order%22&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&safe=off&as_qdr=all&selm=eGHcJyOE%24GA.243%40cppssbbsa02.microsoft.com&rnum=2>

CAUSE
This behavior can occur if the ShellState value in the registry has been
changed or is incorrect.

RESOLUTION
WARNING: Using Registry Editor incorrectly can cause serious problems that
may require you to reinstall your operating system. Microsoft cannot
guarantee that problems resulting from the incorrect use of Registry Editor
can be solved. Use Registry Editor at your own risk.

For information about how to edit the registry, view the "Changing Keys and
Values" Help topic in Registry Editor (Regedit.exe) or the "Add and Delete
Information in the Registry" and "Edit Registry Data" Help topics in
Regedt32.exe. Note that you should back up the registry before you edit it.
If you are running Windows NT, you should also update your Emergency Repair
Disk (ERD).

To resolve this issue, set the ShellState value in the registry to the
default value. To do so, use Registry Editor to view the following registry
key:

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer

If needed, edit the "ShellState" value to match the following value:
1C 00 00 00 A7 02 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00 00 00 0A
00 00 00

NOTE: This value has been wrapped for readability purposes, it must be typed
as one line. Also, you do not have to restart your computer for these
changes to take effect.