work for hire - dragon art

sam velasquez

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Sep 3, 2003, 1:00:34 PM9/3/03

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have a small project for anyone interested. i need an original color drawing of a mechanical dragon for use as a logo for a company website. Please send samples to svela...@sytechsolutions.com. I will pay $200 for the one I would like to use. If you have any questions, just ask in the forum. The url of the completed website is <http://www.dragon-pc.com>. Thanks.

Alexander Kogan.

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Sep 3, 2003, 1:18:05 PM9/3/03

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Sam, a few questions:

- what is the profile of the site?
- what are the color limitations? (do you plan to print it in future? Do colors have to be CMYK-compatible?)
- what size will it be?

Alexander Kogan.

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Sep 3, 2003, 5:11:56 PM9/3/03

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Dee, you pay more? ;)

Dee Bolland

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Sep 3, 2003, 5:07:51 PM9/3/03

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$200 is NOT enough! :D

Dee Bolland

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Sep 3, 2003, 7:19:24 PM9/3/03

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More than you could dream of. ;)

sam velasquez

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Sep 3, 2003, 8:36:17 PM9/3/03

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Alexander,

I would like the picture to be used in 200x600 pixel frame. If you can deliver the image in highest quality format so that I could resize at a later date that would be great. I don't know what you mean by profile, but the site will feature custom built PCs.

With regards to price...I did not mean for the $200 to be any sort of insult. I realize that most commercial artists make a ton more. I just don't have that type of budget and need to get this off the ground. Without making any promises, if I needed additional work down the road, I would give first opportunity to the artist. I would also be willing to include credits for the author as sort of free advertising.

Thanks for the interest.

Sam

Jonathan McClintic

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Sep 3, 2003, 11:46:47 PM9/3/03

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Sam,

If whoever ends up doing your project does so in Illustrator, then it will be ready to be resized to any size because that it the nature of vector images.

original color drawing of a mechanical dragon for use as a logo

Sounds simple enough, but how complex. One of the reason Dee probable said not enough is that sometimes these things can snow ball into 20 hours of edits for what should be 2 to 4 total hours of work, and we walk away making $10 bucks an hour, which is rediculous and an insult for professional illustrators and Graphic artists, some of which have BAs and MAs so we wouldn't make McDonalds level money like that. As this is the case, before we invest time into your project, I would like to know, Do you have something in mind now, or does the artist have complete control over the look. We could spend hours on what we think you want only to have you come up with something which is completely different, and then we would be well on our way to the dreaded $10 an hour (ugh, has this happened to anyone else here?. As such, I am intreagued by your project and would gladly like to hear more about your project (like when is the deadline?)

Jonathan

Dee Bolland

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Sep 4, 2003, 12:45:58 AM9/4/03

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Jonathan - oh yeah - happened to me before! :) In fact - always happens unless a contract is drawn up first. Usually if the client is "toxic" they run a mile at mention of a contract. Last time such an event occured, logo was successfully delivered for a website. Then the client believed the artwork "belonged" to them so demanded the Illustrator file plus a whole heap of stationery/style packaging as part of the original cost. (Of which I saw none.) So - when I see posts like these I tend to think "no" and with good reason. Part of me wants to be the creative/problem solver and I itch to do something. Then I remember comments like: "Oh I didn't want this! Can I see maybe another three ideas?"

Sorry Sam - no go and I really don't think forums like this should allow proposals like yours, as I'm sure someone will fall for it. Professional designers pay a lot of money for the software and updates, plus purchase of fonts etc. If you have a low budget - work with it. Being a designer doesn't mean we just shake-and-bake a design. We ask "Why would you want a mechanical dragon?" Plus other questions that come with a design brief leading to a contract.

Anyone reading this message and seeing similar posts: I recommend you gather all details of a project and write up a brief and then a contract.

Just my personal opinions. No harm intended. :D

LenHewitt

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Sep 4, 2003, 3:33:30 AM9/4/03

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