Adith - fraud

[Alejandra Contreras]

Hi everyone, I´m very sorry for the delay, I was very busy and couldn
´t reply to this group sooner. Anyway...I´m here now. Unfortunately,
my "business relationship" with Adith began in 2008. I looked for some
information against them before accepting any project from them, but
didn´t find anything at that time and for my surprise, when I was
totally involved with them all kind of info arose and for me it was
too late. So, I´ve tried almost everything and still waiting! So, read
below FYI:

Your full name : Alejandra Contreras
Your location (city, country) : Guatemala City
A list of all projects undertaken for Adith that remain unpaid : 17
projects
PO numbers, assignment dates, completion dates and amounts (USD):

1494 25.11.08 26.11.08 10
1590 09.12.08 11.12.08 107
1600 11.12.08 13.12.08 120
1936 27.02.09 03.03.09 372
2018 10.03.09 18.03.09 194
2030 19.03.09 20.03.09 31
2080 24.03.09 25.03.09 59
016 01.04.09 02.04.09 79
052 06.04.09 07.04.09 89
101 07.04.09 13.04.09 521
151 13.04.09 16.04.09 189
181 20.04.09 23.04.09 343
185 24.04.09 25.04.09 17
217 27.04.09 27.04.09 6
356 15.05.09 18.05.09 336
432 20.05.09 22.05.09 246
575 09.06.09 11.06.09 164

Total amount owed: 2883 USD

An indication of what supporting evidence you have on a scale of 0 to
3 :
3 (for every single project)

As you can see, what they owe me is a lot and obviously during those 6
months I believed everything they told me and trusted them, but they
are a complete fraud (so professional, by the way) and the worst part
is that almost 2 years from that...and they keep on scamming other
translators!

[Aravindan DI]

Though i have already furnished the core details i am herewith presenting them with more information (my responses are in bold):

Full name: D.I. Aravindan
Location: Chennai, India

A list of all projects undertaken for Adith that remain unpaid

The PO number for each product
Assignment date and completion date for each one
Amount owed for each one, in dollars

See below for all these queries:

P.O 002 02/12/2008 INR 2,850

P.O 1687 30/12/2008 INR 5,719 
P.O. 008 02/01/2009 INR 3,686
P.O 011 06/01/2009 INR 2764
P.O. 1867 13/02/2009 INR 945
P.O 2064 23/03/2009 INR 18957

P.O 2065 23/03/2009 INR 3792

P.O 2067 23/03/2009 INR 3812

P.O 2083 24/03/2009 INR 3112

P.O 2106 26/03/2009 INR 2620

P.O 1998 14/04/2009 INR 90
PO 560 9/06/ 2009, INR 5395

PO 635, 18/06/ 2009 INR 518

Total INR 54260

 

An indication of what supporting evidence you have on a scale of 0 to 3,
for each project

I have a lot of mails from the company assuring me the payment. I can forward them if need be.

A total amount owed, in dollars

 

USD: 1214

[Mark White]

> Though i have already furnished the core details i am herewith
> presenting them with more information (my responses are in bold):

Thanks, but this is the third time you've sent them. They are recorded.

> *I have a lot of mails from the company assuring me the payment. I can
> forward them if need be.*

Not yet. Thanks you.

Mark...

[neha chhabra]

Hi.

 

Are we taking action againast them. Pls confirm

[Mark White]

> Are we taking action againast them. Pls confirm

Right now I'm collecting information about what is owed to everyone who
wants to be involved in this. Once we have this information data, we
will decide on the approach to take.

You're welcome to open up a discussion on this mailing list. After the
initial interest, it does not seem very lively.

Mark...

[Ultramarine]

Hello Mark,
please can you confirm, that you added me to the list of people who
are owed by adith? I posted the necessary details, but dont know if it
reached you.
On the other hand, everybody seems to be just waiting for you to do
something. May I be of any help?

Best regards
Pavel Paloncy

[Rajeev Kumar Bangia]

Dear Mark and all others....
 
I think we should somehow involve the Adith as well, informing them that now we have decided to take action against them and we should serve a notice to them as well.....
 
Secondly, I know that Adith is still running its business as usual. We should all at least write to one to ten persons (or agencies) telling them to send this massage to other translator worldwide.....
 
Even if by doing so we won't get out payment but we will be able to save at least few new translator who become victim to them..
 
I request you all to please comment on my suggestion....
thanks and take care

Rajeev Kr Bangia 


 
> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:39:30 +0700
> From: ma...@somsip.com
> To: adith-no...@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Adith - fraud (Neha)

[preeti r shah]

Hi Everyone,
I assumed that first Mark will collect all the data and then we will definitely take action against Adith. That should not only be Mark's responsiblity, we all have to work collectively towards it. Nobody till now from Bangalore or nearby place has responded, otherwise it could have been our central point of contact.
Rajeev, yes we should make people aware of it, but at the same time we should not let go our hard earned money like this, no matter how big or small the amount is.
I already had a small conversation with Sharmila on FB which i forwarded earlier.We need to convey this message very strongly to Adith now all the translators, whom they've duped have united and ready to take action against them.

Regards
Preeti

On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:45:43 +0530 wrote

[Mark White]

> please can you confirm, that you added me to the list of people who
> are owed by adith? I posted the necessary details, but dont know if it
> reached you.

I don't have your details, but just resend them and I'll add them.

> On the other hand, everybody seems to be just waiting for you to do
> something. May I be of any help?

Many thanks for the offer. Right now it is just waiting for the details
of the claims and updating the spreadsheet. I'm not sure what might
happen when we start a conversation with Adith, but I will ask for help
when it's needed.

Mark...

[Ultramarine]

Hello Mark,
here are my details:
Your full name - Pavel Paloncy
Your location - Sumperk, Czech Republic
Order.No.259 --20.5.2010 --- Words 20181 Rate 0,04 USD/word 807,24
USD
Order No.481 30.5.2010 -- Words 12012 Rate 0,06 USD/word 720,72
USD
Order No.519 1.6.2010 - Words 12550 Rate 0,06 USD/word 753
USD

I have all necessary documents (order, email communication, source and
translated documents) - 3

Total 2280,96 USD owed

Thank you
Pavel Paloncy

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ICQ #162277614

[Mark White]

> I think we should somehow involve the Adith as well, informing them that
> now we have decided to take action against them

I agree, but I would like to hit them with an amount. A few of us have
tried threatening legal action in our private correspondence with them,
and though some have had success, others have not.

I would prefer that my first contact with them is to say that we have a
group action against them with a total claim of $20,000 (or whatever it
turns out to be). It might make them realise we are serious and that it
is worth or while to employ an India-based lawyer.

That is something that you can help with. Contact some lawyers. Work on
the basis of no-win-no-fee and a claim of $20k. See what responses you get.

> should all at least write to one to ten persons (or agencies) telling
> them to send this massage to other translator worldwide.....

I agree. I've written to about 40 already and asked others to make
similar contact. But I'm not going to check up on people if they decide
not to do it. How many have you contacted? Have you had much success? I
believe a few people I contacted joined the group, but I didn't approach
it very scientifically - just searched the net for a few hours and
emailed/messaged everyone who said they'd been cheated by Adith.

Mark...

[Mark White]

> I assumed that first Mark will collect all the data and then we will
> definitely take action against Adith.

Rough plan is:

Collect data (closing date, end of October)
Contact Adith (through every possible source. I intend to blitz every
known email and contact point with the same message)
If payment is not made in a very short period of time (I have a week in
my mind, but it's not fixed), then it goes to a lawyer or debt collector.

As we have 2 weeks to go before I'm proposing to contact Adith, it
probably is time to start seeing what our options are for legal action
and debt collection. In my experience of debt collection in the past,
some agencies will include legal action if initial attempts to collect
the debt fail. This might be of use to us, and it's certainly worth
investigating.

So I would call on out India-based members to look into this on our
behalf. To contact a few reputable lawyers and known debt collecting
agencies and get some ideas of what they can do for us.

We will have to accept that if the action fails, we may incur costs. A
no-win-no-fee contract would be preferable. If a lawyer thinks we have a
good case, this might be something that they would agree to. If we get
rejected by everyone, it might be a sign that we're not likely to win.
Let's not get to concerned about this until we get some more info.

Who can help with this?

Mark...

[Mark White]

> here are my details:

Ouch. That's a lot

Totals are now $14,425 with 11 claimants.

[Mark White]

Many thanks for the details Alejandra. this is a big one :-(

Grand totals:
$18238.24 for 13 claims

[Eleanore Merrill]

Dear Mark,

 

Would you please provide me with the file in which you put all our claims information?

Thank you

 

Kind regards

Eleanore
 

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From: Mark White <ma...@somsip.com>
To: adith-no...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tue, October 19, 2010 12:54:40 PM
Subject: Re: Adith - fraud (Alejandra)

[param singh]

3000 rupess mine

regards,
paramjit singh

[Eleanore Merrill]

Dear Paramjit,

Please note that I will not be filing your claim - you need to do that yourself  

(go to www.arhelp.com), 

at your earliest convenience, and provide your invoice and PO number(s), date issued and amount. 

 

Kind regards

Eleanore Merrill

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From: param singh <params...@gmail.com>
To: adith-no...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, February 4, 2011 7:24:25 AM

Subject: Re: Adith - fraud (Alejandra)