ADF (Application Development Framework) VS VBCS (Visual Builder Cloud Service)

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Daniel Diaz

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Mar 29, 2019, 7:19:06 AM3/29/19
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Hello experts.

2 months ago I took a leap to Oracle Integration Cloud Service and all the tool that come with it, some of my tasks have been to develop apps in Visual Builder Cloud Service.

Here is my story and my reviews for those who are evaluating on get their hands on this tool (regarding they are complete different technologies) based on some similarities and differences with a final summary on the pros and cons of each tool.

For those who already worked with these 2 technologies.  Any review or additional info to update the article is welcome.


Enjoy!!

Steve Muench

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Mar 29, 2019, 7:31:11 AM3/29/19
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Daniel, thanks. One follow-up comment. You mention:

As it is noticeable ADF seem to be a backend complementary of VBCS. This can help to develop complex systems in the future taking out the best of each tool.

In addition, the business objects you build in VBCS are effectively ADF BC business objects with ADF REST services featuring the same Groovy triggers, validation rules, and object functions that you can create in JDeveloper IDE using ADF BC design time or using Oracle Application Composer in our Fusion Applications to customize the data model of your Fusion Application. 

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Karthik Nag S

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Mar 29, 2019, 9:36:54 AM3/29/19
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Hi All,

Is VBCS similar to Salesforce.com ? If yes then what do you think about the future prospects and opportunities as VBCS developer in comparison with Salesforce.com developer. Do you think VBCS is heading towards becoming a popular choice for App development? Having seen and experienced the decline in usage/opportunities of Oracle tools like ADF. 
Is it worth switching to VBCS being an ADF developer? To me it seems its a good leap from ADF to VBCS, but I am also curious to know if there are any other oracle and non-oracle alternatives for ADF developers? Would be glad to hear perspectives of all the experts in this group.

Thanks,
Karthik Nag S
 

Jeba

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Mar 29, 2019, 3:26:27 PM3/29/19
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Hello Daniel, 

Nice post. Very useful information. 

With all the increased scrutiny in compliance, data protection and security measures, how will the Client-Heavy javascript frameworks, especially Oracle JET / Cloud compares with ADF Faces?

Another advantage on VBCS or Cloud services in general is, there is either no or minimum maintenance on the server and tools. 

Thanks, 
Jeba. 


Daniel Diaz

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Mar 30, 2019, 10:35:57 AM3/30/19
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I did not know this,  I am going to research about it to update the post with that info.

Thank Steve!!



On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 5:31:11 AM UTC-6, Steve Muench wrote:
Daniel, thanks. One follow-up comment. You mention:

As it is noticeable ADF seem to be a backend complementary of VBCS. This can help to develop complex systems in the future taking out the best of each tool.

In addition, the business objects you build in VBCS are effectively ADF BC business objects with ADF REST services featuring the same Groovy triggers, validation rules, and object functions that you can create in JDeveloper IDE using ADF BC design time or using Oracle Application Composer in our Fusion Applications to customize the data model of your Fusion Application. 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:19 PM Daniel Diaz <itev...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello experts.

2 months ago I took a leap to Oracle Integration Cloud Service and all the tool that come with it, some of my tasks have been to develop apps in Visual Builder Cloud Service.

Here is my story and my reviews for those who are evaluating on get their hands on this tool (regarding they are complete different technologies) based on some similarities and differences with a final summary on the pros and cons of each tool.

For those who already worked with these 2 technologies.  Any review or additional info to update the article is welcome.


Enjoy!!

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Daniel Diaz

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I already describe in the art how I feel about VBCS, I think is going to be a huge success as more client start to using it.

I really love the tool from the first time I put my hand of it.

It is really worthy to switch to this tool whether you are an ADF developer or web developer.

ADF developer must know a little bit about lot of web design subjects that are used in VBCS and are way easier than in ADF.

I want to hear other opinions about expert that did this switch.. comment about your experience..


On Friday, March 29, 2019 at 7:36:54 AM UTC-6, Karthik Nag Sathrasala wrote:
Hi All,

Is VBCS similar to Salesforce.com ? If yes then what do you think about the future prospects and opportunities as VBCS developer in comparison with Salesforce.com developer. Do you think VBCS is heading towards becoming a popular choice for App development? Having seen and experienced the decline in usage/opportunities of Oracle tools like ADF. 
Is it worth switching to VBCS being an ADF developer? To me it seems its a good leap from ADF to VBCS, but I am also curious to know if there are any other oracle and non-oracle alternatives for ADF developers? Would be glad to hear perspectives of all the experts in this group.

Thanks,
Karthik Nag S
 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 5:01 PM Steve Muench <steve...@gmail.com> wrote:
Daniel, thanks. One follow-up comment. You mention:

As it is noticeable ADF seem to be a backend complementary of VBCS. This can help to develop complex systems in the future taking out the best of each tool.

In addition, the business objects you build in VBCS are effectively ADF BC business objects with ADF REST services featuring the same Groovy triggers, validation rules, and object functions that you can create in JDeveloper IDE using ADF BC design time or using Oracle Application Composer in our Fusion Applications to customize the data model of your Fusion Application. 

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 12:19 PM Daniel Diaz <itev...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello experts.

2 months ago I took a leap to Oracle Integration Cloud Service and all the tool that come with it, some of my tasks have been to develop apps in Visual Builder Cloud Service.

Here is my story and my reviews for those who are evaluating on get their hands on this tool (regarding they are complete different technologies) based on some similarities and differences with a final summary on the pros and cons of each tool.

For those who already worked with these 2 technologies.  Any review or additional info to update the article is welcome.


Enjoy!!

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Daniel Diaz

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Hi jeba, great question..

In my case we implement the security through IDCS (Identity Cloud Service) to control the access to the app with log in based in roles of users repository.

However it is possible to use application roles to secure data at the level of the page, the component and the business object.


I will do other post about tricks that used with VBCS. 

Then I  am going to add something brief (the article is already big to read) about security in the article.
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