Re: adeona-users - 3 new messages in 2 topics - digest

[A.Lizard]

At 06:18 AM 7/4/2009, you wrote:
Prey is a work in progress. It's got some great ideas.

However, don't trust it in it's present form to provide anti-theft
services until AFTER you have:
1. installed and set up prey
2. created a guest account (my netbook has a modified login screen
telling 'guests' the UID and PW...) also helpful if you want to loan
someone your netbook on purpose). The "nologin automatic guest
account" creation is ... not implemented yet.
3. created the "my laptop is stolen web page" (or implemented one of
the alternate methods of telling prey the laptop has been stolen)
4. temporarily turned off security on your wireless router
5. opened your guest account with prey running
6. NOT connected it to your wireless access point (one of the points
of the software is that it's supposed to connect to the most easily
available open WAP available)
7. received an e-mail with the tracking information

The latest alpha test development version available via Tomas's git
repository (if you don't know what a git version control repository
is, you don't need to as an end user) fails at 6/7 on Linux. I don't
know about how it's working or not working on Win/OSX. If anyone has
got it to 7 on Windows or OSX, please let the rest of us know, that
means it's a workable solution.

I'm working with him with respect to getting the Linux version working.

A.Lizard

>== 1 of 2 ==
>Date: Fri, Jul 3 2009 7:58 am
>From: Dave Clark
>
>
>Y'all might take a look at this (I know nothing about it, but someone
>on one of my Mac-lawyer groups referred to it):
>
>http://preyproject.com/#download
>
>Any info or reports on this would be gratefully received.
>
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[Dave Clark]

Well, the comments below by A.Lizard look helpful, but I have the
following concerns.

On Jul 4, 2009, at 2:00 PM, A.Lizard wrote:

>
> At 06:18 AM 7/4/2009, you wrote:
> Prey is a work in progress. It's got some great ideas.
>
> However, don't trust it in it's present form to provide anti-theft
> services until AFTER you have:
> 1. installed and set up prey

I can't even tell if Prey is installed on my MacBookPro, which is only
4+ months old and updated to OS X 10.5.7. Prey's installer.app shows
up as a volume, but that's about it.

> 2. created a guest account (my netbook has a modified login screen
> telling 'guests' the UID and PW...) also helpful if you want to loan
> someone your netbook on purpose). The "nologin automatic guest
> account" creation is ... not implemented yet.

I have only the vaguest idea what this all means. I believe I know
how to do the guest account on the Mac, but not on my Dell Mini
running Ubuntu. Candidly, I'm just a dumb-ass lawyer and the Dummies
books had me in mind.

> 3. created the "my laptop is stolen web page" (or implemented one of
> the alternate methods of telling prey the laptop has been stolen)

Read this on the Prey website, so I entered my dog's facebook page/
username (http://facebook.com/kenji.inu/), but don't know how to
change it in Prey to something else if I want. Can I do so by re-
installing Prey, or will that screw everything up?.

> 4. temporarily turned off security on your wireless router

What wireless router, when and under what circumstances? At home, on
the Mac, or where?

> 5. opened your guest account with prey running

As noted, I cannot tell if Prey is even installed and/or running.

> 6. NOT connected it to your wireless access point (one of the points
> of the software is that it's supposed to connect to the most easily
> available open WAP available)

Don't understand what this means.

> 7. received an e-mail with the tracking information
>
> The latest alpha test development version available via Tomas's git
> repository (if you don't know what a git version control repository
> is, you don't need to as an end user) fails at 6/7 on Linux. I don't
> know about how it's working or not working on Win/OSX. If anyone has
> got it to 7 on Windows or OSX, please let the rest of us know, that
> means it's a workable solution.

This sounds ominous. I saw nothing on Prey's website to indicate it
was a beta. Or is Open Source something like "perpetual" beta?

>
> I'm working with him with respect to getting the Linux version
> working.
>
> A.Lizard
>
>

Really appreciate your efforts. Keep up the good work.

[Rcg]

I consider myself computer knowledgeable, but I too am up against some
unknowns with "Prey".
I have a website, created a "prey" Folder with the ,

"my laptop is stolen web page"

but haven't posted it yet.


1) I installed the program on my "cow" laptop -Running Vista SP2 --in
SPANISH! (don't have any idea why Spanish, not English)
2) I know the program is* *running.I am getting inundated with emails
telling me that my laptop is in my lap. I've tried to reconfigure prey,
to no avail.

temporarily turned off security on your wireless router--Why? What good is this? It is going through my router regardless!



opened your guest account with prey running-- Are you meaning I should create a "guest account" on my LAPTOP? I (now) only have 1 account..me! If I have to, I can set one up no problema.............but why? I prefer the ease of turning my 'puter on and letting vista load all my startup programs without a password. And if I must set up a user account, I'm guessing I have to run prey on that screen/account??

So, I know this is an adeona-turned prey comment group,for the moment, but any help would be appreciated.
Ron

[Brandon Leon]

temporarily turned off security on your wireless router--Why? What good is this? It is going through my router regardless!

Its not that hard guys, this above step if for TESTING purposes. Prey is supposed to find the first unsecured network it can and auto connect your machine to that network to send tracking information. drooping the security on your own wireless network is just to ensure the prey application correctly finds and connects to a unsecured network,

and as for creating a guest account you really don't have to if your own account auto logs in in order for the tracking software to gather as much information as possible you want the person that stole your machine to actually use it. if you only have one account and they cant log in you have no hopes of capturing a photo of him (if you have a cam) or a screenshot of what he's doing, the idea is to create a unsecured guest account (thus keeping your personal files secure still) to get the person to start using the system and hopefully capture an image of him / her.

--
//Brandon

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