Some Historical Notes

[David Clulow]

This group was founded by Clark Weston.  Sadly he died on 13 September 2005.  On the 17th his daughter Shirley Goldsmith, passed the group over to me (see message #14108).  At that time photos were not permitted to be attached to messages despite many members (well me, Mark and a few others) requesting Clark to modify the settings to allow this.

The first thing I did was to modify the settings to allow photos to be posted and on the 22nd I sent a message to the group saying that we could now attach photos to messages (see message #14183).  This produced a huge surge in messages and new members.

At that time there was no information available on how to pollinate or graft adeniums.  I thought this was reprehensible, so at great effort I researched these topics and uploaded to our files section detailed photos of how to pollinate and how to graft.  This took a great deal of time and effort and many members were grateful for this.  Indeed my photos of pollinating have gone around the world and are on a number of sites.  Also, my grafting photos are also on a number of different grafting sites.

A fair number of members requested me to provide them with seeds.  I'm not commercial, so I had to decline. However, I started to produce more seeds than I could possibly use and decided to let our members share in my efforts.  It is good to get superior seeds around the world.

I thought this was a friendly group; and I intend to make it so.

I hear that one of our members is attempting to get a group action against me with Yahoo.  This could result in the group being shut down.  Is that what you really want?  I will send five packets of hand pollinated seeds, your selection - 12 seeds to the packet,  to the first person to send me a copy of this message.

I thought you might like to see the first photos which were ever uploaded to this group.  They were of my striped Adenium swazicum  raised from seeds from Dr. Mark Dimmitt.  It is unusually difficult to grow and flowers rarely but it is a good pollen parent but sadly, as yet, none of its offspring has shown the slightest striping:

[TUBBS...@aol.com]

I am a lurker--do not post but love this group and enjoy the pictures and information contained in it.  If there is a person or place I can write to on the groups behave-please let me know.  It would be a great loss to see this group shut down.     Sincerely  cheryl tubbs

[Roger, in Bangkok]

Even when there is a really, really justifiable reason, it is nigh on to impossible for anyone or a group of people to mutiny against a YahooGroup owner and prevail ... if you don't believe that, just read the user agreement that you acknowledge when first signing on! Don't even waste your time barking up that tree, YahoGroups is not a democracy, never has been and never will be ... that is by design (and probably necessity!).

It's by far the best if everyone can just let go of what they don't care for and grasp what they do care about ... otherwise just quietly leave :-/

RiB

On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 19:58, David Clulow <david....@gmail.com> wrote:

 > > > > > > > snipped out a fair bit of good stuff < < < < < < <

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I hear that one of our members is attempting to get a group action against me with Yahoo.  This could result in the group being shut down.  Is that what you really want?  ...

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[Eric Bronson]

      I love this group David and I would be truly sad to see it go. I mainly lurk here but I really enjoy all the information that is posted here as well as the amazing photos of new hybrids. Keep up the good work and let me know if there is anything I can do to help.

 

Thanks,

Eric Bronson
Tamarac FL                                                
obsh.un...@yahoo.com
http://ilikerareplants.blogspot.com/

"Ignorance more frequently begets confidence than does knowledge: it is those who know little, and not those who know much, who so positively assert that this or that problem will never be solved by science." Charles Darwin (12 Feb 1809 - 19 Apr 1882) The Descent of Man (1871), Vol. 1, 4

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From: David Clulow <david....@gmail.com>
To: Adenium Yahoo <ADE...@yahoogroups.com>; Adenium <Ade...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2011 8:58 AM
Subject: Some Historical Notes

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