MmphEvernote Professional is worth $100/year for me (at least I think it will be once I start using some more of its features). But one of the first things I noticed when Bending Spoons bought Evernote was the very high prices of some of BS's existing apps. I don't know what percentage of Evernote's users are in the USA--I expect it's significant--but if price increases of that magnitude really start happening across the board, BS is going to find out how much lower price tolerance Americans may have than Europeans. Does the nation that invented Walmart and absolutely believes that low price is the only factor in most buying decisions seem likely to support a stainless steel utility at platinum prices?
At the risk of being controversial i couldn't care less about 1st/2nd/3rd world issues how many times do you see people stepping off boats around the world with mobile phones and internet....as i was driving through slums in Luanda for example I saw they might have no running water or toilet but they have a sky tv dish! So I don't really care where someone lives or about their perceived "challenges".
Evernote is a tool. It does a job. It could be improved and if they want to ramp up the costs significantly then many ( myself included) will be off to alternatives unless I start seeing things like easy bidirectional linking, manual sorting and AI- I have google alerts set up monitoring alternatives so have some ideas as to where I would go.
I DO think they should do away with the moronic FREE package. Yes make it free for a say a month with say max 50 notes then you pay. They must spend a fortune providing the service and "support" to free users.
If you cant figure out you need it after a month pull your data out and go elsewhere. You don't rent a mobile phone and then say not sure I will need it but Ill keep using it on a free plan if you don't mind.
I have it but it is so awkward to use = not easy=I would like En to implement [[ ]] which would then link to an existing note or section of not OR create a note. They then need to implement AI. They argument that En will never do.......xxx are nolonger acceptable.
I clearly have a choice to make, but the new owners of Evernote are not giving me any guidance on the new features. Will they apply to me? Is a cost that has increased by a factor of 2.5 in the last two years really justified?
I was hoping that Bending Spoons would provide more usable functionality. But to have this scale of price increase, on top of what Evernote had already done without providing a reason to stay, appears to be a move to drive long-term customers away.
And @PinkElephant, if you haven't already, have a look at Tana or Loqseq or Obsidian or Notion (or even Roam Research) for much more usable implementations of bidirectional linking. Evernote's implementation takes a lot more time to both create a backlink and make use of a backlink. It is an improvement but falls well short of the more usable implementations out there.
Agreed on the free month, then pay. I probably used it free for a month or less, and very quickly saw that I was getting benefits well worth paying for. If you can do just fine with what you get for "free" (only paying with your personal information) elsewhere, or bundled with a massive office-tools subscription, you're good. If you see something in Evernote that really makes things work better for you, then subscribe. Skip a cup of coffee every week to make up for it.
@Dave-in-Decatur, the links in other tools are as easy as typing "@This is a link" (Tana) or "[[This is a link]]" and the software will either give you a dropdown of related links or create a new note/page. In Evernote it is three step activity, right click on where you want the link, type the text and enter/paste the link, and if you want to link to another Evernote page, you have to click on "select note", and then enter text to see the matched notes. I may not be doing this the quickest way in Evernote, but I have tried to figure out faster ways so if they are there, I couldn't find the, suggesting the user interface is too complex.
And AI? The difference between existing Evernote search and AI is the ability to find semantically and by context. Assuming it is a large-language-model, I would expect the AI to easily handle synonyms and misspellings - a simple example, I search for contract, I see returns for that, as well as agreement and other phrases that the tool infers, are a type of contract. You might be interested in this article that provides a useful introduction -search-algorithms-every-data-scientist-should-know-ed0968a43a7a
hmm. I just switched to monthly last month as my annual was about to renew and I wanted to see what bending spoons would do. Just checked-my annual price for a personal plan hasn't increased yet (US based user). Their existing mobile software is expensive, but maybe there's value for those folks that use it? For me, Notion appears to be the only viable PlanB, and I'm exploring. Honestly, the need to organize my work is worth a pretty penny. The real question is which tool is the right one. Notion has some neat concepts, and a few negatives. Time will tell. I'll keep following this thread, I find the variability in pricing showing up to be an odd practice for a company right after a acquisition. Maybe they don't know how engaged the users are in the forum?. We're going to talk....
Explained a lot more. eloquently than I did. If you are using or would like to use EN for idea management and creation ( check out Linking your thinking via google) then EN is years behind other apps. If they want 2 x money they need to up their game.
Seems like Evernote is for the people who have not kept up with technical advances and developments in recent years. Asking such a price is totally uncompetitive when comparing the feature set. It looks more and more like a fossil than really a state-of-the-art tool (which is what it once was!).
I too think [[ or @ could be great shortcuts for evernote to add, but they did add a keyboard shortcut for linking that you might find a little easier. Take a look at the video / description in the help article below:
Recurring tasks in Notion are a nightmare to figure out. I have an annual contract until November and I will be monitoring alternatives closely. Many alternatives charge around 10-12 a month say 120 a year. If EN want me to pay more I expect something in return.
I've received "the" email advising me of my new cost to continue to use Evernote. This will mean that, to retain the same category of features, my costs have gone from USD70 to USD180. [with attached screenshot]
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