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I just received a new Apple TV 64G as a gift. I want to use my new Apple TV and my iPhone 5s while in my RV to stream Netflix (without any WIFI). However, I am one of those individuals who is still grandfathered into unlimited data through ATT, and therefore using my phone as a hotspot is disabled by ATT (so using my phone as a hotspot is not an option). I have been searching the Internet, and have not seen anything promising... Before I actually open the Apple TV package (keeping my option of returning the gift), I am trying to determine if there is any confirmed solution to the "streaming with no wifi/no hotspot" problem? This was my reason wanting the Apple TV.
I am hoping for a resolution that will allow me to use just the Apple TV and my iPhome 5s, however, I have seen suggestions about using a router to simulate a WIFI that is connected to nothing.... Is this a workable solution? Thank you.
I travel in my camper and have unlimited data also and I use my iPhone/iPad to stream and just connect with a dongle direct to the TV - about a 20 foot cable I can sit almost anywhere in the camper and control the screen. Unfortunately the ATV has been designed and marketed as a streaming device I don't think we'll see the ATV work without a network connection...
The Apple TV 4 is very much built around the internet, it needs an internet connection every time it is turned on (although it may in cases be subsequently turned off). It would be extremely difficult to use it in your situation, if indeed you were able to use it at all. I wouldn't take the idea any further if I were you.
I have the ATT grandfathered plan as well and the 64GB ATV4, an Airport Express and an iPhone6S and was going to try and make your idea work to see if it would. It sounded great until I thought about it more. I believe the flaw is the idea that you could set up a network, connect the iPhone, ATV4 and AirPlay Netflix to the ATV. Once you direct the iPhone to connect to the WiFi, it looses its cellular data connection and does not bridge one network to the other.
I do not think it is a technical problem for Apple, it's more of an emotional one. If they did, they would have some angry carriers and cable companies. The carrier would not get the hotspot fee and many cable carriers would loose the business. The customers would love it!
I think Protodd has the cheapest solution and in a trailer or rv the cable should fill your requirements to watch Netflix on the big screen. I bet it will be alot more reliable and easier to maintain and the best part is you use unlimited data and it does not cost you a penny more.
I'll have to look into the dongle/hdmi cable option... I honestly was not aware that this was an option... So, you are saying that with the dongle, I can see on the TV exactly what is on my phone screen? Apparently I have been WAY over-thinking this.
The likely reason is un acknowledged packets. TCP/IP requires that every packet be acknowleged, but it doesn't require it to happen immediately. At very high transmission rates such as FIOS provides, any delay in ackowledging a packet or delay in re-transmitting a packet may cause the router memory to fill up with subsequent packets, creating the proverbial Gordian knot. You cannot get rid of packets in memory because they haven't been acknowledged, but you cannot get any more acknowledgements, because there is no memory left in the router to receive them! I suspect this is a situation the router doesn't handle gracefully.
If it does, then you have a stressed line problem that only occurs when the line is close to saturated, which is a common problem with lines that are marginal, and would probably require a trouble ticket.
You may also have a issue with fios itself, because you are streaming video you can see it where as if your just going to websites you will not see a network hiccup. I stream netflix all the time with no issues. I highly doubt it is a issue of the router running out of memory, because your router does not store what you are downloading, it is just routing on the packets of info onto the correct mac address that requested the info from the website., it does not buffer them.
I still think it is the router running out of memory. Contrary to what others have said, the router does have to store packets. It is just like any other node on a TCP/IP network. It has to hold onto the packet until the next node up the line has ack'ed sucessful receipt. TCP/IP does require that every sent packet be acknowledge, but to deal effectively with high speed transmission, and long propogation time, it can send the next packet, in fact it can keep on sending packets until the packet is ack'd. The packets do have to be ack'd in order, but It can take a long time. The obvious problem is at very high transmission rates, delays in ack of even due to just propagation delay can chew up a lot of memory in the router. The faster you make the connection, the faster the router will run out of memory, so making the connection faster will make matters worse.
While it is configured that way, some other things may not work, but if the netflix streaming video works without the router, there is your answer. The PC has far more memory available for packets than the router. so is far more tolerant of long delayed acks.
I'm having same issue, waited my 30 minutes with Netflix support and that said "no idea" and that they are working on buffering issue. Has anyone got past this yet? Very frustrating and wonder what is up w/router to just drop like that?
how did you access the ONT outside? all locked up? but after doing so you ran cat 5 cable for that to the inside to a wireless router and use that for internet and leave the actiontec in place for the TV side? did you disable anything in actiontec?
In terms of getting this done with Verizon Tech Support, we need more detail, they are stingy with helping anymore. what number did you call and what was the wording you used? i'm guessing they will say not suppoted so get lost.
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Posting on behalf of my father.
His netflix is not working in his house when connected to WIFI on any device. Disconnected from the wifi and use 4G and it works fine.
Virgin box is connected wirelessly and network test show it connected and working.
I downloaded the netflix app on my mobile and connected to his wifi - does not work. I try youtube while connected to the wifi and it works, google works etc etc. Disconnect from the wifi and netflix work it.
Seems like there is something on the wifi blocking netflix?
Hey @JamesB93,
Welcome to the Community Forums and thanks for the post.
Sorry to hear you father is having this issue with his Netflix, can you confirm for me is there any error codes or messages when you are trying to access Netflix at all?
Joe