BOOM BOOM FINAL TIE - need committee decision on winner asap

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Sarti Krishnan

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Oct 5, 2014, 7:04:38 PM10/5/14
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Just when you thought the committee work for the season was over... here is the biggest challenge of the year -

BOOM BOOM Final between Black Caps & Skippers ended in an exact tie - runs & wickets.

How do we decide a winner?  

1. Joint champions?
2. Result of head to head match in the pre-knock out stage?
3. Any other method?

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Sarti Krishnan

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Oct 5, 2014, 7:48:16 PM10/5/14
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One more note - since the rules prohibit a Superover in the 30-30 format this year, I wanted to get the umpiring committee's approval for a Superover to break the tie.

But I was umpiring the BBL Final in GH1 and by the time I called Rizawi sahab and got his approval for the Superover and went over to GH2 (10 -15 mins), the teams and the umpires had already packed up.
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Sarti Krishnan

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Oct 5, 2014, 7:50:16 PM10/5/14
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Yeah we should have put an exception in the rules for playoffs\Final.  But nobody noticed it and it is not there...

On Sun, Oct 5, 2014 at 6:46 PM, <dan...@aol.com> wrote:
I think ACC allow to have super over in final game?



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Siva Kesana

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Oct 5, 2014, 9:14:15 PM10/5/14
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I would vote for "Joint Champions"

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Sarti Krishnan

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Oct 5, 2014, 9:27:47 PM10/5/14
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Haris texted me and suggested that we play a Superover next weekend which seems like a good idea but I thought maybe give the teams expanded options as follows?

1. Play just Superover
2. Play T20 again
3. Play 3030 again

Teams to pickup all costs

Your thoughts?

shb...@comcast.net

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Oct 6, 2014, 11:43:36 AM10/6/14
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Super over otherwise Joint Champions.


From: "Sarti Krishnan" <sar...@gmail.com>
To: "acc-umpiring-committee" <acc-umpirin...@googlegroups.com>, "Bari, Sohail" <dan...@aol.com>, "Salman Khan" <skha...@gmail.com>, "haris imtiaz" <haris...@hotmail.com>, "manish -" <zi...@hotmail.com>, "Dsouza, Joaquim" <dsouz...@aol.com>
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Subject: Re: BOOM BOOM FINAL TIE - need committee decision on winner asap

Sarti Krishnan

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Oct 6, 2014, 12:13:37 PM10/6/14
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​Sohail,

At least 3 committee members have suggested joint champions for Boom Boom.  Are you ok with this?  (ACC has never declared joint winners in 14 years).​
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Sarti Krishnan

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Oct 6, 2014, 12:40:08 PM10/6/14
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We would make two trophies for the two teams declaring them as joint winners.   I am not concerned about the cost, I'll work that out.

But if we make two sets of trophies are you okay with the idea?

On Oct 6, 2014 11:15 AM, <dan...@aol.com> wrote:
How would you distribute trophies?



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Sarti Krishnan

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Oct 6, 2014, 12:51:16 PM10/6/14
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I'll ask the teams if they are open to the idea of coming back next weekend for a Superover but after the match yesterday they were not very open to the idea.

Because a Superover immediately after a match is an extension of the match and that is fine but a Superover after one week is just a one over match - which they feel is no way to decide a champion.  But I'll ask and copy everyone.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:31 AM, haris imtiaz <haris...@hotmail.com> wrote:
It would not work with trophies


Subject: Re: BOOM BOOM FINAL TIE - need committee decision on winner asap
How would you distribute trophies?



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Sarti Krishnan

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Oct 6, 2014, 1:02:45 PM10/6/14
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Ok, I'd like to have all the terms and conditions before I approach them...

What if one or both teams refuse to replay t20 or 3030?  What do we do then?

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 11:58 AM, <dan...@aol.com> wrote:
They can play 20/20 or 30/30



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Sarti Krishnan

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Oct 6, 2014, 1:12:25 PM10/6/14
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Oh wow Sohail a toss will be a very disappointing end to the Final.

Is management or committee open to picking a winner based on standings or head to head match result in the season?  If not, we will have to go with joint champions.

If teams don't come back to replay and we don't want joint champions then management\committee will have to pick the winners.

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:08 PM, <dan...@aol.com> wrote:
they can do the toss?



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