McGhee brings in new disciplinary code
David Maclennan
Dons take innovative approach to on field sinners
In response to the disciplinary record this season, and to demonstrate the clubs acceptance of the players and managements role in maintaining a high level of discipline on the field, Aberdeen manager Mark McGhee has introduced a new system of punishment at Pittodrie.
Mark McGhee said: "As a manager I have never operated a system of fiscal punishment. I do however believe that we have to support the authorities in cleaning up our game and improving discipline on the field of play.
"I've never been a manager who felt it was fair to fine players money. I don't think we have any right to do that. I felt we had to come up with something that is strong on the players, but also gives a little something back as well.
"With this objective in mind I have introduced a system of fines based on the players own private time. It has the full backing of the players. The system will be a 'Work in the Community' exercise which will require the players to participate where required in projects in the greater community.
"I don't want people to misunderstand what I'm saying. We're not about to send players out to dig up roads and sweep the streets, but players will be asked to give up an increasing amount of their own time - based on a first caution, red card, first suspension, second suspension and so on.
"I've spoken to our 'Dons in the Community' department as well as our commercial team who are in touch with the police and other organisations throughout the city.
"If there's a situation where, for instance, they have something on (like a coaching session or a seminar) and they think one of our players could help them then the player who's had a red or yellow card will go along.
"We don't want suspensions as has been the case on five or six separate occasions already this season. So we've decided to try to put down a strong message to show we're supporting the authorities.
"I feel strongly that it's a two way street, obviously the authorities have a responsibility to the referee, but we as clubs have a responsibility to make sure our players are doing everything they can to play within the laws of the game.
"It won't be retrospective punishment. It will come in to force for tomorrow's game with Hamilton.
"It's important to remember that this is extra work on top of what they already do for the Community and Commercial departments at the club. There are many different player appearances organised by marketing team each week."
Justin Anderson
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David Maclennan
But it’s not really the case that only one of them have been justified.
The ref at the Motherwell game had no option but to send Gary McDonald off given the law regarding his offence specifically states that a player must be cautioned for covering his head with his shirt during a goal celebration.
In fact, under the laws of the game, they are probably all justified.
Not sure what to make of punishing players by making them do more work in the community and interact with the fans though.
I also do think for moments of complete stupidity like Jerel Ifil’s sending off at Parkhead last week, the club should be taking a lot stronger action than making him visit schools and hospitals or whatever else.
Brian Fraser
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Brian Fraser
The whole squad should get community service for this.
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David Maclennan
Aluko can f*ck right off. It's clear he isn't interested so McGhee
should ship him out asap.
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rd_1903_afc
McGhee said that we needed all our players to play well in order to beat them.... it was obvious that was not the case.
Thought Ross, Paton, Aluko and McDonald had stinkers, together with Maguire, Mugrew and Foster not really doing much. Pawlett was huffing and puffing without doing much, Kerr was ineffective, Foster and Considine failed when called upon. Miller was trying but nothing really came off for him. Grassi provided next to nothing when he came on (I'd have put him at left back and moved Mulgrew forward but I dunno if it would've made a difference).
Everyone shouting for 4-4-2 and players in their rightful positions.... well today McGhee did that but his players let everyone down big time. One shot on target where the keeper had a save to make (and even then I think it was probably going over), other than our goal.... that stat says it all.
These players think they are better than they actually are. There was no fight, no belief and no desire to win today. How many times have we seen that??
RD
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gs we weren't. McGhee said that we needed all our players to play well in order to beat them.... it was obvious that was not the case. Thought Ross, Paton, Aluko and McDonald had stinkers, together with Maguire, Mugrew and Foster not really doing much. Pawlett was huffing and puffing without doing much, Kerr was ineffective, Foster and Considine failed when called upon. Miller was trying but nothing really came off for him. Grassi provided next to nothing when he came on (I'd have put him at left back and moved Mulgrew forward but I dunno if it would've made a difference). Everyone shouting for 4-4-2 and players in their rightful positions.... well today McGhee did that but his players let everyone down big time. One shot on target where the keeper had a save to make (and even then I think it was probably going over), other than our goal.... that stat says it all. These players think they are better than they actually are. There was no fight, no belief and no desire to win today. How many times have we seen that?? RD ________________________________ From: Brian Fraser To: Brian Fraser Cc: aberdeenfc Sent: Sat, 12 December, 2009 17:15:12 Subject: [AFC] Great result! Beaten by Hamilton at home! F*cking great effort lads! The whole squad should get community service for this. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "aberdeenfc" group. To post to this group, send email to aberd...@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to aberdeenfc-...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/aberdeenfc?hl=en --0-1134616926-1260639151=:96949 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
rd_1903_afc
What do you want me to do, lie to you and say I thought he had a wonderful game? He was part of a back four that got ripped to shreds on several occasions and his header basically set it up on a plate for their opener.
Are you in love with Foster?
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rd_1903_afc
Our squad has been weakened, season on season, for many many years now.
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rd_1903_afc
I think in many ways, your opinions are indicative of the problems we've had at AFC over the years. Better budget? So what! Being able to beat other teams is about application... apply the skills, which more expensive players should possess. But you can't just expect to waltz out there and beat teams without applying yourself.
No one shone for us today. We were pants. Hamilton grafted and fully deserved the 3 points. You only get out of life what you're prepared to put in to it. We have no god given right to be beating so called lesser teams.
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Iain McDonald
These days outside of the old firm club’s budgets for playing staff seem to be pretty small. Or at least the *difference between them* is very little. And the difference is really negligible when every team is looking at bottom of barrel scrapings to cobble together into a team. So I hear the cry for consistent application in every game. There is not enough ‘class’ to carry us through any games any more. Any decent players have flown south for the cash.
Being a footballer is still a privileged position and if getting some players out into the community more often helps them to realize that then all good with me. What stinks slightly is that it is being seen as punishment i.e. you have been a bad boy so you must speak to fans.
We need more grafters at the club for sure. There’s no point in working hard in training then not turning up on the Saturday.
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that's my point Brian... there's really not much to chose between any team in
the SPL this season. If a side gets 11 players, plugging away, are organised,
fighting tooth and nail..... then they'll be hard to beat. Hamilton were better
than us today - it's as simple as that. We had no one in our team who
overshadowed any of their players.
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Gary McDonald, Sone Aluko, Mark Kerr, Chris Maguire and a few others, should all be made to get up at 6am, fight their way through traffic, do a hard days work that most would probably die to get out of, then sit in traffic again to get home, before a couple of hours relaxing before bed. Better still.... ship them offshore for 2 weeks of 12 hour shifts, bunked up in a 2 man cabin with all the trimmings of a sh*t lifestyle that that brings.
Pains me to watch these guys picking up a healthy wage each week for 90 mins of 'fun'. And hey, the training part of it... I'd give my right arm to be keeping fit and practicing fitba all week long (for half a day).
Anyway, seems Sean Wallace has been trawling through the archives of the EE and has cut and pasted the good old 'fans have a right to boo' article. Oh for a fiver each time I read this....
MARK McGhee today insisted the Red Army were right to jeer his Aberdeen FC players after their Pittodrie shocker.
The Aberdeen FC team left the field to a chorus of boos after losing 2-1 to Hamilton.
And McGhee insists the criticism makes him even more determined to get it right against Hibs at Pittodrie on Saturday.
He said: “We deserved to be booed. The fans came to Pittodrie on the back of our win over Rangers expecting us to do something.”
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Nigel Hird
since Willie Miller's last season in charge - total lack of application,
interest (as Chris Chrighton points out in today's EE regarding Sone
Aluko) desire, all the f***ing things that should be a given, not an
extra. Been saying this since the cows came home but look at all the
best players - as well as the abilty, they ally that with all the things
above to make the complete package, or in Dodds and Shearer's case, make
the very best of what limited abilty they had.
All the more reason for us going even further down the youth route - at
least with them you can make a fresh start and try and imprint your
style and beliefs on them before the apathy and arrogance of your
average footballer kicks in.
Any idea what position Ryan Jack plays? Young player who has been
plauged with injuries so far but has been on the bench these last two
weeks. If we all agree that this is a fact finding season for McGhee,
and that the end of season position isn't critical, get these guys in
now.
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