Need DIA for Old Abe

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Siddhartha Kasivajhula

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Feb 18, 2023, 12:46:12 AM2/18/23
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Hi!
The project Old Abe is in need of DIA. If you are available, please sign up by adding your name to this spreadsheet:


Commitment:
  • attending around 3 meetings total, conducted on an approximately weekly cadence (or whatever works for all participants), about 1 hour each
  • preparing analyses / appraisals of the project on your own in advance of each meeting according to DIA guidelines
  • optionally taking on extra accounting duties such as tallying up the results, or writing scripts to automate various components, or improving the process in any way you discern
  • reviewing and certifying the results
Compensation: The constitution grants 5% of revenues of the appraised project to DIA analysts.

Thanks!
Sid

Ben Knoble

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Feb 18, 2023, 8:20:48 PM2/18/23
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Le 18 févr. 2023 à 00:46, Siddhartha Kasivajhula <siddhartha....@gmail.com> a écrit :


Hi!
The project Old Abe is in need of DIA.

For those of that don’t know, could you say more about what Old Abe is? I’m potentially willing to help meet quorums if necessary.

D. Ben Knoble

Siddhartha Kasivajhula

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Feb 20, 2023, 4:14:01 AM2/20/23
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Old Abe is an accounting system for ABE projects. In more detail:

In order to implement ABE, an open source project has to account contributions in various specific ways which involve, for instance:
  • modeling dilution of attributions on every single contribution (both regular as well as financial contributions)
  • keeping track of who has been paid and how much is still outstanding
  • properly accounting payments to the project in terms of current price, valuation and attributions
  • and much more, e.g. see the financial model overview
Needless to say, this is not easy. Traditional companies hire entire teams of accountants to properly report revenues and expenditures, investments in and by the company, and so on. Even though ABE is simpler than traditional investment models, it is still a lot of work to get it right, and things are likely to get more complex as time goes on. This is where Old Abe comes in.

Since a unique feature of ABE is that all accounting is public (even if anonymized) information, that allows us to automate these various processes and accounting methods in a way that is common to all projects. The only thing project admins need to worry about is actually paying the outstanding amounts to the contributors (and someday maybe even that can be automated). In addition, any changes to the ABE model can be immediately leveraged by all projects if they are using Old Abe, and any conveniences for handling common workflows (for instance, someday, backpropagation) would also be available to all projects, with standard ways to handle everything, and everyone working together to improve it and make it even easier.

Hope that helps!

Btw, I am back from India and am back to regular availability on PST now.

D. Ben Knoble

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Feb 22, 2023, 5:04:38 PM2/22/23
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On Monday, February 20, 2023 at 4:14:01 AM UTC-5 siddhartha....@gmail.com wrote:
Btw, I am back from India and am back to regular availability on PST now.

 Hopefully this is the last time I ask you for this information (I'll bookmark it or something): is there a calendar or other "everything I need to know to show up in the right place" link for ABE events?

Siddhartha Kasivajhula

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Feb 22, 2023, 5:33:34 PM2/22/23
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No worries! Here's the ABE Calendar. I just added the gather link to the calendar event for tomorrow's Qi DIA event (it's already on the regularly scheduled ABE Workshop event which is also tomorrow).

There's also a Wiki which doesn't contain much at the moment, but which we could use as the "one stop, everything I need to know" portal.



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Siddhartha Kasivajhula

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May 26, 2023, 7:49:34 PM5/26/23
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Hello!
Now that the dust is settling from the initial launch, we need to do a proper round of DIA for Old Abe (we had done a crude version long ago and decided to use those results to avoid delaying launch - but it's not up to our current standards).

The scope of work I see for this is:
  • meeting online about once a week - probably 4-5 meetings
  • doing DIA for Old Abe
  • as we have been doing with other projects, making incremental progress on "DIA on DIA" -- once complete, this will allow all DIA participants (on any project) to start getting compensated :)
No prior experience necessary.

If you'd like to sign up, please add your name to the spreadsheet. Depending on availability, I think we'd aim to start this process sometime in the next couple of weeks.

See ya,
-Sid

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