How government shills create the excuse to destroy freedom of speech

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John Perna

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Oct 4, 2005, 4:10:46 AM10/4/05
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How government shills create the excuse to destroy freedom of speech
 
It has often been said that for every right there is a responsibility.
When people use rights to injure others,
these people are putting our rights in jeopardy.
 
The House has now approved an 'Anti-Hate' Bill, 
putting our Freedom Of Speech In Jeopardy
 
The assault on our freedom of speech is going forward with the term "hate speech".  
 
Our freedom of speech is NOT being assailed,
simply because the normal citizen is using freedom of speech to injure others.
 
Many of the most malicious posters, of the internet, fit a pattern of
Invasive Federal tactics for Information Warfare on the Internet.
Have you noticed that they have not been prosecuted?
 
visit:
 
Excerpt:
Distraction by voluminous postings with no information by blowhards and empty name-callers.
 
Often these government shills will also have a history of perpetrating hoaxes.
 
These government shills create the excuse for tyranny according to an old tactic.
Government shills will abuse rights to make it seem as these
rights should be restricted.
This tactic is called "pressure from above and pressure from below".
 
In every call for more power for 
government there should be a reminder that nothing in the
measure will abrogate the constitutional rights of American citizens.
We must not destroy freedom in the name of defending freedom.
Be careful about elimination of rights,
or the setting up of totalitarian instruments.
 
Government shills will abuse rights to make it seem as these
rights should be restricted.

 
For Hitler, the national emergency was the burning of the Reichstag Building. Then he set up the Gestapo.
 
We have 9-11 and "HomeLand Security". It even sounds like "Fatherland"
 
Totalitarians gain power through techniques that have been developed over the entire history of mankind. Most of these techniques have been written down in "training manuals" for would be dictators.

Examples are:

"And Not a Shot is Fired" by Jan Kozak,

"The Communist Manifesto" by Karl Marx,

Communist ManifestoCommunist Manifesto -

 

 

 

and "The Prince" by Nicolo Machiavelli.

These techniques have also been revealed by "defectors" such as Eric Blair, who wrote "1984", under the pen name of George Orwell.

1984Nineteen Eighty Four (1984) by Orwell -

 

 

 

The book called "Tragedy and Hope" was written by Dr. Carroll Quigley. Carroll Quigley claimed that he was not a "defector" but that he wrote ""Tragedy and Hope"" to PROMOTE what he called the "network". Dr. Quigley is an authority on the world's secret power structure because HE IS ONE OF THE INSIDERS. He boasts that he has been a part of this network for most of his life. He writes approvingly of their power, and influence. To assure his readers of his own qualifications for the writing of this book, Dr. Quigley states:

"I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960's, to examine its papers and secret records. I have no aversion to it or to most of its aims and have, for much of my life, been close to it and to many of its instruments. I have objected, both in the past and recently, to a few of its policies. . . but in general my chief difference of opinion is that it wishes to remain unknown, and I believe its role in history is significant enough to be known."

Tragedy and HopeTragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time -

Liberal university college professor Carroll Quigley praises the efforts of "an international Anglophile network" whose goal is to rule the world. He boasts of having been permitted “to examine its papers and secret records,” and confirms the existence of an over-arching conspiracy, and details the origin and eventual power of the CFR and allied groups. (1997 ed, 1348pp, hb)

How to become a dictator

The creation of "abuses" is a part of the totalitarian agenda. The creation of "abuses" gives the government an excuse to "crack down". Then the creation of tyranny becomes justifiable and inevitable.

When "abuses" erupt the population accepts totalitarian measures as "the

only alternative to the "abuses"The action is in the REACTION.

This tactic is called "pressure from above and pressure from below".

The Communist book, called "And Not a Shot is Fired" by Jan Kozak , explains this entire strategy. Jan Kozak, who was then a member of the Czechoslovak Communist Party Central Committee, explains how a free government was actually transformed into a totalitarian dictatorship - legally. "And Not a Shot Is Fired" originated as an internal Czechoslovak Communist Party strategy paper.

"And Not a Shot is Fired" is a "'how-to' manual for takeover of a free and elected system of government, through legal means. Kozak's discussion is not theory about what "might" be possible to accomplish the seizure of power. It is a history of a technique that was actually proven, by its implementation.

And Not a Shot is FiredAnd Not a Shot Is Fired by Kozak -

Jan Kozak explains

 

 

Pressure from above is what Jan Kozak called "revolutionary parliamentarianism". "Revolutionary parliamentarianism" means working INSIDE of the system to change laws in such a way as to increase the power of government.

Pressure from below

consists of the creation of the "abuses" which are then used as the excuses to increase the power of government. Karl Marx referred to pressure from below as "the proletarian struggle". Pressure from below might involve violence, or it might simply be the creation of the appearance of popular support for the increase in the power of government.

Our government leaves our border WIDE OPEN to illegal aliens,

but then claims to "protect" us, by creating totalitarian measures against law abiding American citizens.


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Mark Christiansen

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Oct 4, 2005, 2:58:07 PM10/4/05
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Who started the phrase "Hate talk radio?"  Who started in the campuses the idea that certian speech wasn't allow because he may offend someone?  You know the great PC movement.  Who decided to create buffer zones to restrict protest?  These all were great liberal ideas that have now come back to haunt you.
The Hitler anology is nothing more the fedding a fear.   Which is not true if you did any study of Hitler.  You cheapen the defination of Hitler who was truly a mad man.
Let me ask you did Bush say we needed to round  up all Muslims and put them in camps?
Something like FDR did in WWII only to the Japaness but not the Germans.
You wondering why liberals have become such a term they now use the term progressive.
Like Air America.
Why this country is turning conservative because of people like you who with their shrill and insulting the majority.  That is what Hitler did if you want to be accurate.  He blame the Jews what difference than the libs today blaming Christians for all the problem.
So I suggest you clean up your house before you start and also some burning down your house and blaming the fire department.

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Chris Oidtman

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So what happens when Bush activates the army to control areas of the country when we are hit by the avian flue pandemic?
 
Will he call Marshal law and suspend all civil rights much as has happenned in TX, LA, MS and Al? ei. make people evacuate their homes................

ShunkW

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            Let’s see…..”liberals” started the “free speech” movement…..and if they didn’t want to be called “hate talk radio” (which I will have to admit I have never heard that phrase before) then they shouldn’t be spewing hate on the airwaves. Talk about being “PC”….what’s wrong with calling “a spade a spade” or a hater a hater? BushCo is the one that is only allowing protests in very isolated places and makes people sign a loyalty oath to actually attend his TAX PAYER FUNDED speeches. If I am not mistaken all those people in Gitmo and those other hidden CIA camps around the world are nearly all Muslims and I am sure they would have rounded up and detained thousands more than they already have if they could have gotten away with it; instead they just deported them all on minor immigration violations. I never once blamed “Christians” for any problems although I have denounced pseudo-Christians who preach one thing and practice another. They are not Christians; they are just hypocrites.

 

Like I always say; if they don’t want to be compared to Nazis then they should quit acting like fascists.


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Mark Christiansen

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Oct 4, 2005, 5:36:32 PM10/4/05
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SW,
Here is an education right after the OK city bombing Bill Clinton go up and believe that it was  cause by the "hate talk radio".  Later to find out Tim was more mad about what Bill did at Waco.   I have not problem call it what it is but you have to admit to the PC crowd limits speech certian jokes can't even be told.  Who created the buffer zones around abortion clinics?  Clinton. 
I guess you can say that liberals are facist too and if you don't want to be compare to Nazis then don't act like them.
Bush hasn't rounded up all the Muslims in this country and put them in camps.
Mark

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Bill Clinton is one hell of a long way from being a “liberal”. Anyone who actually thinks he is has been listening to too much right wing propaganda. A “liberal” would have never worked so hard to pass NAFTA at the American worker’s expense.

 

Just exactly who is “the PC crowd” you speak about? Do they have meetings or something? What “jokes can’t be told”? Is someone passing a law or something that I didn’t hear about against offensive jokes? The only people I know who are trying to stop Howard Stern and others like him from telling “offensive” jokes are the “conservative” run FCC.  I can tell any joke I want but have enough common decency not to. If you want to go ahead. I openly advocate free speech at almost every opportunity. Just exactly who is stopping you? Liberals are FOR free speech in case you haven’t noticed. It sure isn’t liberals that are trying to censor TV. Last time I heard Brent Bozell and the “Media Research Center” still consider themselves “conservatives”.

 

http://www.mediaresearch.org/

 

Abortion clinics are private business compared to Bush’s public forums. WE pay for the Bush speeches; the abortion clinics pay for their business. Shouldn’t they have some control over their own business or is that somehow to “PC” for your crowd?

 

By the way just exactly which “liberals” created a buffer zone around abortion clinics? Of course I am sure it was more “liberals” that were actually murdering doctors in and around those clinics but you don’t seem to have a problem with THOSE conservatives.

 

Hitler didn’t kill all the Jews either so since BushCo hasn’t rounded up ALL the Muslims then it is OK I suppose.

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That's a blot on our history, but I believe it had bipartisan support.

Roosevelt was one of our greatest presidents, but he made mistakes. If Bush ever made a mistake, he can't remember what it was.

~ R


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There's no law against those jokes. They generally aren't told because most fair-minded Americans don't like them.

~ R


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ShunkW

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Unless of course you tell them on TV and the conservative thought police think you might “offend” someone. You can’t get much more “PC” than that.

 

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There's no law against those jokes. They generally aren't told because most fair-minded Americans don't like them.

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