RE: [WikiMayflower] WikiTree Descendants of Famous ancestors
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Lindsay Stough
Jun 6, 2012, 4:30:34 PM6/6/12
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(I AM ALSO EMAILING EUROARISTO GROUP as it would be nice for everyone to input on this. EuroAristo's read whole conversation, below.)
I have re-read that several times and am actually a little confused-- Richards categories Mayflower Passengers and Mayflower Familes are the generic ones, I believe... I (in my g2g post) was talking about adding a category of "Lindsay's Mayflower Ancestors" and then you would add "Michael's Mayflower Ancestors" and pretty soon, it could get ugly.
I have been in talks with Chris, Lianne and Roger, in pieces about doing something like you are kind of saying about having confirmed people only to edit such pages... we could possibly control this by shutting down the trusted list to users of the user group ONLY and user group members would be required to sign the honor code and understand that they cannot edit the pages of those profiles as they are managed by the user group and changes need to be addressed by the user group, etc. Then we could give a badge of "Mayflower User Group" or whichever group to the people who agree to these terms and sign the honor code, etc the ability to have trusted access to the profiles, etc. This is also useful since the people on the trusted lists now are mostly not active and are simply there due to gedcom import which is now shut down for this far back in time... blocking new people from the same courtesy.
EuroAristo seems to have much more difficulty on these subjects as the ancestors are older and therefore have more decendants and interested parties. We had someone the other day change a king's son's parents to some random people we had never heard of, and thats only the beginning of the fun over there.
What my point was for the G2G thread you included was that I wanted a useful way to pull up my veteran ancestors, immigrants, etc but dont know how to do that. Maybe a work around could be pulling up categories by MY ANCESTORS only... but that would probably make Chris have a heart attack trying to re-write the software to accomodate. Not sure... It would be much more sensible, though, as every descendant would like the ability and Edward III, King of England, I know has plenty enough descendants ON WIKITREE currently, to flood his page with categories where pulling up "Category:Royalty" My ancestors only, would be much easier... AND wouldnt require so much manual labor on each wikitreers part-- and the lack of who is or isnt a vet, immigrant, royalty, etc would stunt that process even more.
I dont know what the best idea is...
Anyone?
Lindsay
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:55:48 -0700
From: mrle...@yahoo.com
To: wikima...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WikiMayflower] WikiTree Descendants of Famous ancestors
Hello everyone,
Have been hiding in the back ground and thought I might post a couple of ideas here.
Descendants of Famous ancestors,
Richard Warren's profile has Category link
Categories: Mayflower Passengers | Mayflower Families.
Instead of putting everyone's personal link on Richard Warren's profile page.
How about on the Mayflower families category page, a link to or subcatagory for "Descendants of Mayflower Families". Wikitree members could then use this Catagory link on their profile page. This would be a page similar the the WikiTree Honor code Signatories page. And what if there was a little badge for Mayflower Descendants, War of 1812 Descendants, Sons/daughters of the American Revolution, etc.
This could be used for all of these types of catagories.
I recently contacted the Mayflower Society for permission of such logos and images to be used on the Mayflower Pilgrim's pages and for confirmed descendants. Might be able to design our own logos / images for all the different Societies. I do not like the idea of having to pay for each and every one of them. A WikiTree Descendants Society is fine with me. Besides no room on my hat for all these pins, badges and stars, virtual is better.
Might consider some sort of requirement for posting in this catagory, source and citation minimums.
Some sort of link, picture, comment etc. for posting on our ancestors pages up to the ancestor of note.
See pictures at:
Mayflower photo:
copyrighted:
http://www.wikitree.com/photo/Lechner_Hereditary_Societies.gif
http://www.wikitree.com/photo/Lechner_Ancestor_Immigrants.jpg
not copyrighted:
http://www.wikitree.com/photo/Warren-2883-1.jpg
and others at:
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cooke-1544
Main Discussion at G2G:
http://www.wikitree.com/g2g/2289/can-you-use-wikitree-categories-categorize-your-ancestors?show=2997#a2997
I have re-read that several times and am actually a little confused-- Richards categories Mayflower Passengers and Mayflower Familes are the generic ones, I believe... I (in my g2g post) was talking about adding a category of "Lindsay's Mayflower Ancestors" and then you would add "Michael's Mayflower Ancestors" and pretty soon, it could get ugly.
I have been in talks with Chris, Lianne and Roger, in pieces about doing something like you are kind of saying about having confirmed people only to edit such pages... we could possibly control this by shutting down the trusted list to users of the user group ONLY and user group members would be required to sign the honor code and understand that they cannot edit the pages of those profiles as they are managed by the user group and changes need to be addressed by the user group, etc. Then we could give a badge of "Mayflower User Group" or whichever group to the people who agree to these terms and sign the honor code, etc the ability to have trusted access to the profiles, etc. This is also useful since the people on the trusted lists now are mostly not active and are simply there due to gedcom import which is now shut down for this far back in time... blocking new people from the same courtesy.
EuroAristo seems to have much more difficulty on these subjects as the ancestors are older and therefore have more decendants and interested parties. We had someone the other day change a king's son's parents to some random people we had never heard of, and thats only the beginning of the fun over there.
What my point was for the G2G thread you included was that I wanted a useful way to pull up my veteran ancestors, immigrants, etc but dont know how to do that. Maybe a work around could be pulling up categories by MY ANCESTORS only... but that would probably make Chris have a heart attack trying to re-write the software to accomodate. Not sure... It would be much more sensible, though, as every descendant would like the ability and Edward III, King of England, I know has plenty enough descendants ON WIKITREE currently, to flood his page with categories where pulling up "Category:Royalty" My ancestors only, would be much easier... AND wouldnt require so much manual labor on each wikitreers part-- and the lack of who is or isnt a vet, immigrant, royalty, etc would stunt that process even more.
I dont know what the best idea is...
Anyone?
Lindsay
Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 11:55:48 -0700
From: mrle...@yahoo.com
To: wikima...@googlegroups.com
Subject: [WikiMayflower] WikiTree Descendants of Famous ancestors
Hello everyone,
Have been hiding in the back ground and thought I might post a couple of ideas here.
Descendants of Famous ancestors,
Richard Warren's profile has Category link
Categories: Mayflower Passengers | Mayflower Families.
Instead of putting everyone's personal link on Richard Warren's profile page.
How about on the Mayflower families category page, a link to or subcatagory for "Descendants of Mayflower Families". Wikitree members could then use this Catagory link on their profile page. This would be a page similar the the WikiTree Honor code Signatories page. And what if there was a little badge for Mayflower Descendants, War of 1812 Descendants, Sons/daughters of the American Revolution, etc.
This could be used for all of these types of catagories.
I recently contacted the Mayflower Society for permission of such logos and images to be used on the Mayflower Pilgrim's pages and for confirmed descendants. Might be able to design our own logos / images for all the different Societies. I do not like the idea of having to pay for each and every one of them. A WikiTree Descendants Society is fine with me. Besides no room on my hat for all these pins, badges and stars, virtual is better.
Might consider some sort of requirement for posting in this catagory, source and citation minimums.
Some sort of link, picture, comment etc. for posting on our ancestors pages up to the ancestor of note.
See pictures at:
Mayflower photo:
copyrighted:
http://www.wikitree.com/photo/Lechner_Hereditary_Societies.gif
http://www.wikitree.com/photo/Lechner_Ancestor_Immigrants.jpg
not copyrighted:
http://www.wikitree.com/photo/Warren-2883-1.jpg
and others at:
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Cooke-1544
Main Discussion at G2G:
http://www.wikitree.com/g2g/2289/can-you-use-wikitree-categories-categorize-your-ancestors?show=2997#a2997
Chris Whitten
Jun 8, 2012, 10:12:49 AM6/8/12
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Lindsay, I think you nailed it.
This is the right solution: "Maybe a work around could be pulling up
can see everyone with the surname, or you limit the display to just
the people in your Watchlist. So, you can go to the Stough index and
see all the Stoughs, or just see the Stoughs in your family.
As Lindsay says, this could work for categories. If categories are
used comprehensively, you could, for example, go to the Mayflower
Passengers category and see everyone who's a Mayflower passenger, or
just see the Mayflower passengers in your family.
This might be able to roll up through the category hierarchy too, e.g.
so all veterans could appear together, even though some are Civil War
veterans, World War 1 veterans, etc. But that would be tricky.
Chris
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This is the right solution: "Maybe a work around could be pulling up
categories by MY ANCESTORS only."
This could, theoretically, work just like a surname index page. You
can see everyone with the surname, or you limit the display to just
the people in your Watchlist. So, you can go to the Stough index and
see all the Stoughs, or just see the Stoughs in your family.
As Lindsay says, this could work for categories. If categories are
used comprehensively, you could, for example, go to the Mayflower
Passengers category and see everyone who's a Mayflower passenger, or
just see the Mayflower passengers in your family.
This might be able to roll up through the category hierarchy too, e.g.
so all veterans could appear together, even though some are Civil War
veterans, World War 1 veterans, etc. But that would be tricky.
Chris
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