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Ravi
Share the action taken asap on what ever happened also precautions to stop it.. As this is major issue and threat for residents safety and security.. Not only Uttam bike two or three more incidents happened..
Basically all residents in email strongly I feel Vbhc is crowded with residents and tenants its time to have property manager in the night too..
Cheers
Venky
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Dear Ravi,
This is to bring to your notice and expect strict action on this.
Today (27th) early morning around 8am, i found my newly purchased Royal Enfield bike engine, parked under phase 2A basement was completely filled with Sand, this has caused complete engine damage, 12 litres of petrol from fuel tank was completely drained creating lot of smell in apartments and could have caused MAJOR issue for all residents if caught fire.
I would like to bring to your attention that this is negligence by SRS security deployed during that time to safeguard our assets have completely failed.
We have hired security agency with hope that they will safeguard our property and our assets, but, am very sorry to say they have failed to do so.
This negligence from SRS security have caused loss and damage to my motor bike,hence, request you to kindly help me get bills settled by SRS for the damages.My bike is currently in electronic city showroom for repair.
I have made written compliant to SRS security agency and have shown damages to their supervisor as well, we expect security agency to provide us professional service, if they cannot provide desired service,than, WE ARE IN MOOD TO PAY FOR THEIR USELESS SERVICE.
Thanks in advance for your help.
Best Regards,
Uttam
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Hi all,
Second similar incident has happened with a 5th Blk resident.
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Now a days too many incidents and no strong action to stop this incidents or no action only from the security agency or vbhc ... Need to discuss on this asap..
Like minded people please come forward to support this as this is serious threat ..
What will happen if we park our vehicles in underground parking..
Cheers
Venky
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VBHC team & srs security,
I request both teams must take immediate action to solve these kind of incidents, so that in future we will not experience same incidents.
I am waiting to c serious steps and action plan.
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Owners had to accept the fact that like minded people are very very less to come forward to support the affected owners or question the management till its happens to themself untill this kind of attitude change and more residents come forward only then we can get any solution...
If no safety in ground floor parking lot what can be expected in underground parking...
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I support the installation of CCTV in common areas and in basement ASAP with the help of VBHC team to safeguard our valuable property.
Thanks
Murthy KLN
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Folks,
Having CCTV coverage across VBHC is not a choice any more. Even the police will ask for CCTV footage for investigation.
If this means diverting some maintenance amount from SRS security to CCTV fund, let's do it.
This has been successfully done in B22 by Jithesh, Vishwas & team. It's not impossible and the cost is trivial for the security we get. Think about it!
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Thanks a lot for your quick turnaround sir by send Veeresha even in your busy schedule..
Thanks
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Dear Rahul/Himanshu,
It is definitely a threat if incidents like these occur in the future. We feel we are not safe despite security is there. They are either oldmen, skeletons, carrying big tummys will never ensure our safety. They will run for their life first. We owners have to do their job every time. We are not safe here. Its a life threatening issues occurring here.
Uttam Jha's bike incident & stolen bicycle are the clear proofs against students. In addition, there are lot of evidences against these hooligans.
I urge VBHC to take action against the owners(who have rented to student hooligans) - to penalize for the damage done, hold them responsible & make them accountable for costs involved in the series of damages done by their students.Also, these owners have to compensate for the issues occurred here until now from the elevators damages, glasses broken, pipes broken and all the trouble caused to us is only because these.
Thanks,
Lester Fernandes
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Hope people in this email and vbhc management is aware of todays evening fight between students and locals.. Elders, women and kids are scared..
Please help us in prioritizing the security issue and resolving this one and all for ever..
Hopefully big big barrier gates and strong men are needed at main gate also good surveillance cameras not the ones just for name shake...
Sir,
We had a detailed discussion yesterday regarding security arrangement of Anekal Residential Block and SRS Security reviewed the existing security setup and submitted the report.
I reviewed the report and felt this is required.
Here is the report
· Earlier we have Security Officer and we had discontinued. We have to appoint SO back to manage the residential block, after witnessed yesterday’s incident.
· Night shift 1 Nos Security Guards has been increased for patrolling
· Currently we don’t have security presence in A,B,C,B Blocks basement and we have increased 1 Nos in Day shift and 2 Nos security guards in night shift.
· Currently we don’t have security presence in E & F Blocks basement and we have increased 1 Nos in Day Shift and 1 security guards in Night shift
Total 7 head count would be increased in security staff. Hope is good enough to go ahead. Security guards will be deployed from Thursday and will shortlist SO soon and deploy.
Regards
Veeresha
Hi Veeresha,
I knew this is the only decision you can take even before you reached the spot...based on our experience with you in the past.
I wanted to be proved wrong...somebody rightly said in the previous mail "the management is good, the problem is mid-level management".
Request you to ponder on numerous suggestions given in the past to make it a compressive action.
Regards,
Job
Veeresha,
First of all share the Complete MOM.
Share the Cost part if we increase the Security Heads, and to be honest, it’s not worth paying these much amount to SG or SO or AM @ Site. We don’t require temporary solution here, required permanent which again cost effective result.
It is easy to say to increase the manpower @ site, which I am personally not interested to increase my maintenance cost.
So better we will have CCTV installed in Common Areas, rather than wasting the Security implementation will install CCTV is the best option. VBHC can spend the money for that and again, when you are fixing the Vendor, discuss with owners then do it; Don’t ever go with the blunder figures of vendors.
Ex: - If we are installing 16 Cameras including UPS, will cost nearly to Rs. 150000.00 (One Lakh Fifty Thousand), but SG or SS we are paying almost 12,000.00 * 2 Heads (per Phase) = Rs. 24,000.00, 6 months itself we will cross the figure of CCTV.
I am not agreeing this point to increase the staffing level. I am not ready to pay the maintenance cost based on the calculation above.
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Veeresha and VBHC Team,
I agree with Jitesh point and the same thing also I was asking before and the trail mail also. We don't know why vbhc is not taking things seriously rather increasing handicapped security. Can you guarantee that after putting extra security this type of incident will not occur ?
Second thought if security guard will be slept at basement which is current scene then who will responsible after paying huge amount.
CCTV installation will be one time cost and we can reduce security if required or can monitor 24/7 with security.
Are you people promised not to put CCTV ...?
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Dear veeresh,
I too recommend to implement the CCTV installation in common areas and in basement as jitesh said.
Increasing the security guards @ vbhc doesn't help much.
I request you to plz implement CCTV installation @ vbhc ASAP.
KLNMurthy
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Dear VBHC Team,
I do agree with other owners. The quality of service is not upto the mark from this security agencies. Many times the deployed security is sleeping or watching or playing with mobile. They are not bothered about who is coming to the premises. I have seen couple of times sujaya school staff also using the main gate to go to school.. Security is allowing them...
As someone mentioned in some other mail.. Without an entry pass for owners or tenants, access to the entry gate needs to be denied... The reason why I am saying this, the community is so big and the security cannot remember all the owners and tenants family... Providing pass to each family members should not attract big investment.
Also I am not sure about CCTV at the main gate. Is it functional? How many days backup we are getting...
Instead of increasing the head counts and passing that maintenance cost to owners, we really need to look at one time cost to install a good CCTV surveillance in the community with a centralized monitoring system..
CCTV footage is the only way to prove who is the culprit and deal with them legally.
As per my understanding the police is also insisting for CCTV in the big communities like us.
Last but not least, the reason why we are going for apartments is to ensure that we staying peacefully with good security..
Since VBHC is new to this industry, nothing wrong in understanding how other big players are managing their security system.
Anticipating your swift action on security of residents and our properties.
Note: We need to look at how SRS can compensate on the recent incidents.
Thanks and Regards
Senthil Kumar B
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Veeresha and VBHC Team,
I agree with Jitesh point and the same thing also I was asking before and the trail mail also. We don't know why vbhc is not taking things seriously rather increasing handicapped security. Can you guarantee that after putting extra security this type of incident will not occur ?
Second thought if security guard will be slept at basement which is current scene then who will responsible after paying huge amount.
CCTV installation will be one time cost and we can reduce security if required or can monitor 24/7 with security.
Are you people promised not to put CCTV ...?
Regards,
Basanta
Exactly Jasmon....you are bang on. It is rewarding SRS. I am not against increasing or decreasing security to optimum level.
But this is time to implement a compressive solution including cctv. Cost wise it would be much cheaper than hiring more security. Police has been asking the same thing after each incident is reported to them.
Penalty on SRS should be to pay the penalty to the suffers.
Regards,
Job
I am with Jithesh too. Hiring more security personal is like rewarding SRS instead of penalizing them. It doesn't make any sense at all. Also aren't you going to put some penalty on SRS for the negligence and share the amount with victims to repair their bikes?
Regards,
Jas
Hi all owners
Please understand the situation being here for long time before suggest something ..
Fir sure CCTV is also not going to help unless some basic things are done..
> Taking serious action against on people who ever doing nuisances..
> Getting the setails of all the people who are staying in each and every flat.. I dont thing this details exist..
> Any damage to common items add this cost to owners maintanence cost who let their flat to students..
> let owners cut this common cost from the tenants advance money when they vacate the flat also ask them to add this point to their rental agreement.
> Temporarily disconnect electricity and water for vacant flats so the owners or tenant will report to maintanence office when they come for stay.
Finally no point in CCTV cameras untill who ever is creating nuisance will be punished or serious action had been taken against thwm from vbhc management or security agency but none are going to take this responsibility untill there will be no change..
Also intercom facility is needed and the details needwd to ne stored in main gate computer with all the oqner and tenant details to stop outsiders entering inside the campus else there is no meaning of saying gated community.. Else do this also block wise by residents installing grill at each and every block...
In short untill unauthorized persons are stopped entering the vbhc campus and the people who create nuisance are punished there will be no change for sure...
Cheers
Venky
Hi ,I am also in favor of installing CCTV camera in all common area as well in each block and penalize and recover such loss with the security agency.It is good that block 22 already installed the CCTV camera in his block and cost came around Rs 2000/- per head but I would say if VBHC will take care of it and installed the CCTV camera and charge it in the maintenance cost then it is good for all as they can negotiate it with the vendor with reduced price.Once we installed the CCTV camera , we would be able to gradually reduce the security personal and deployed only those person which are more productive and focus more on patrolling security force.Regards,Nandan Keshri
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I am with Jithesh too. Hiring more security personal is like rewarding SRS instead of penalizing them. It doesn't make any sense at all. Also aren't you going to put some penalty on SRS for the negligence and share the amount with victims to repair their bikes?
Regards,
Jas
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Hi team
Apartment culture is not something new in bangalore or in india... Even srs security is managing so many residential apartmwnts evwn bigger than vbhc vaibhava without any huzzles..
So what is missing VBHC..
My Thought is
> None of outsiders are restricted inside the premises even in the night..
> Any no of visitors are allowed even after midnight hours..
> Some tenants(Students) stay in flat doent have carparking but have 2 -3 cars parked in the path ways..
So many things are different like this from other apartments seriously could understand security agency is the problem or their hands are tied mean the same srs agency manage so many residential and commercial properties very good....
Cheers
Venky
Sir,
I did a inspection and it is good to go.
I have scheduled a meeting with vendor on Tuesday 8th March 2016, 12.30pm to 2pm. We will do site survey and submit report.
I would request volunteer owners to be part of this meeting.
Regards
Veeresha
Dear Residence
Yesterday I have discussed with Rahul sir regarding same and planned to install Visitor Management System in main gate. This is FYI…
Thanks for your valuable feedback.
Regards
Veeresha
Its very good option to install vistor management system in the main gate but still its SRS or VBHC had to stop the unwanted people entering the campus..
Example... Some of the apartments does not have their own carparking but students stay there have 2-3 cars and also provided with parking stickers how come its correct.. If thats correct them what about owners who paid for parking...
Also for students some of their friends cars are parked in vbhc.. They are having complete freedom in vbhc..
If we see in phase3 so many cars are parked in the path ways causing trouble to other owners.
Thats the reason why students are coming to vbhc for entertainment party and fun...
The same is not done in nearby symphony or any other community...
Whose miatake is this? Often we hear complaint that residents are not supporting with out any basic security implementations...firat let vbhc and srs security implement some basic swcurity measures which is followed in other apartments...
Untill unless we are strict towards these kind of basic security guidelines and principles nothing is going to change..
We had asked for sign boards so many times to vbhc management but till now there is no ... no smoking ,dont cause damage to common property, car parking area guidelines for owners and vistors.. and park usage guidline ,speed limit sign boards installed...
Even in midnight visitors and vendors for supplying everything to them feom a to z are allowed if this basic things are not done how come the change will come...
Students are chit chatting and making noise not only in the room but also in common area slowly the nuisance are increasing untill unless strong action is taken instead of dragging the issues saying meetings nothing is going to work...
Imementation of basic security in main gate followed in other apartments is required asap... And strong and efficient security personal who can manage manhandling of security by students and not allow unwanted persons and vendors,visitors in late night will give quick solution to bring situation.under control..
Hope most of the owners in this group accept my comments...
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I know the effort VBHC senior management is putting in also your immediate presence when ever problem is there hope things get well asap so that family residents have peaceful sleep.. And let the kids (mean next generation) see and hear good things inside VBHC premises..
Cheers
Venky