Re: Complaint against Arun

[YK Maheshwari]

Attitude -towards society in general is important.  

Any owner/tenant -  can fight, drink, do rash driving or play loud music. He need not be a  "Student".

We don't need to label , these folks as "only Students are bad in the campus and should be banned". Why we do it, since we all think, after 

college , our behaviour changes. In reality its not true. 

If you say all "Students " are bad, then I would say "Bihari's are also bad ". In reality its not true. 

Everyone from Bihar , does not mean , he is corrupt  like Lalu Yadav. 

Bihar and Patna produces, Super 30, highest number of MBA and other competitive exam , IAS type of people as well. 

I don't stay in VBHC.  Have had few tenants,in past 6 yrs.  They were very neat , kept the flat clean and maintained well. 

( both genre - girl staying or boy staying as student or working guy ..) 

After seeing their upkeep. I have no issues with a bachelor or a student.   

I normally provide them advance warning and info on do's and don't , related to their expected behaviour in campus. 

After inspecting the flat after 1-2 months stay , I visit the flat, check if its clean or dirty , if any neighbour complains, 

then the tenant is chucked out , even if he is a working guy, married, vegetarian or a student.

One of the educated guy working in a large MNC , lived like a shit in the flat. I had to send him off in 3 months.

so in summary - 80-90% students are good and remaining 10%  needs to be alerted , if they dont behave properly. 

We are all socially well connected. 

Few things, if you find anyone drinking, driving rash, then just collect his college ID,faculty name, college name , 

parent number, call them and you will find , his behaviour changes overnight. 

Their parents don't send them here to drink and go merry. 

Happy new year 2018. 

 

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Hi Owners,

There are multiple polling which VVAAOA is conducting on norms for renting the flat at VBHC.

Request all of you to go ahead and voice your opinion by voting. This will ensure your opinion is documented. Even if a legal position needs to be taken by any of us in future this can be reffered to.

Beware, If you do not vote which results in the other option winning, this poll results will be sighted as the documented proof respresting the view of majority. Hence plz vote.

Note - I would suggest you to take a position either by voting for or against the question asked. AVOID chosing the option "Neutral" as that respresents that you are ok with any decision being taken and it's left to anybody's interpretation basis which way the decision is desired to be swung.

Every voice counts, so vote.

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Subject: Re: Complaint against Arun

I am partially agree with nikunj and others. For any small issues people targeting students(by forgetting that every one was student once). Problems in such a huge society is common. As if no fight happens in family. But one thing i notice that having male students is not an issue but having girls is creating more. Once i rented two girls in my flat and suffered a lot. Most of the outsiders used to visit the flat. With in 8 months i made them to vacate. Now no issues

On Dec 18, 2017 16:03, "rakesh8250" <rakes...@gmail.com> wrote:

I would suggest no one should take on ego. Wrong will need right. I am also residing in Vbhc and we can not tollerate such kind of legal threatening. 

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Subject: RE: Complaint against Arun

All,

Please be very clear that I will not pay or let my tenant pay any penalty or bribe to association.

For the trouble and harrasment to my tenant we are in contact with lawyer to file a case against Arun/Venkat and association.

Also, my tenant will stay till i want her to stay and you are nobody to ask me what i should do. BE VERY CLEAR !!

I am not going to answer further and waste my time on you guys. 

My lawyer will take this matter legally and untill then my tenant is not going anywhere. 

She will continue staying now !!!

Regards,

Nikunj

On 15 Dec 2017 11:38 am, "subrat sahu" <subrat...@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Hi Nikunj,

My suggestion is, ask the tenant to vacate asap do not wait till month end.

There are many ladies pg to shift near chandapura so not an issue.

Look for family tenant and move forward.

10k fine is to bring control on such kind of issue, it is not to earn money for association.

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On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 at 15:51, Akhilesh Mishra

<mishra....@gmail.com> wrote:

I am agree with Nikunj. Now it's becoming fashion to complain against students. Stop these moral policing. Why you guys stretching these incidents. Plz stop these discussions now.

Have some tolrence. 

I think not all students are bad . Few do mistake then take action. But plz stop this being against students.

Association is to help the flat owners. Not for disturbing them.

Thanks

Akhilesh

On Dec 15, 2017 1:28 AM, "'Balkisan Gogi' via VBHC Phase 1 Owenrs" <VP...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

You are telling that we should call police for such incidents, I would like to tell you that even police is fed up with student issues at VBHC because every now and then something happens.

 

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Subject: RE: Complaint against Arun

 

Nikunk I stay with ASSOCIATION and oppose you.......

 

On 14 Dec 2017 4:10 pm, "Nikunj Arya" <nikun...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear,

 

Legally no one can stop any owner to keep student tenants and since college is nearby so it make sense that student rent these cheap accomodations.

 

At most we can do is to put some rules in place and float it everywhere. And in case of any fight or non complaince of rules. Association should call police rather than taking law in their hand.

 

Regards,

Nikunj

 

On 14 Dec 2017 10:33, "Balkisan Gogi" <balkis...@tatahousing.com> wrote:

I AM WITH ASSOCATION,

AS WE RESIDENTS KNOW THE PAIN WHAT WE ARE GOING THORUGH BECAUSE OF STUDENTS.

 

 

 

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Subject: Re: Complaint against Arun

 

I AM WITH ASSOCIATION. 

 

On 14 Dec 2017 2:17 pm, "Nikunj Arya" <nikun...@gmail.com> wrote:

Guys,

 

I am holding this apartment since the begining..I never had so many issues with maintainance/association which are coming up in last few months even after I regularly pay maintainance charges.

 

Plumber not coming, water leakage not getting fixed, students can't be tenants anymore, switching off elec/water supply like association own my apartment, capturing my tenants car, asking bribe, asking baseless penalty and now burning Amit balcony with carelessness.

 

Many of these are criminal offenses and I have already talked to my lawyer. She is ready to file a case against association and its key members. Their monopoly must be stopped.

 

Till now I am not clear that who (name) is taking association decision like he bought the complete building.

 

You all can send me your complaints and I will add it together with my case.

 

@Amit, do I have your permission to send your case to my lawyer? you must get compensation for damage.

 

Greetings,

Nikunj

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 13 Dec 2017 18:31, "Amit Jha" <amit.k...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Association, 

 

I agree with Nikunj. Why he should transfer money to association ? 

 

@Association - Please remember because of your approval to honey bee guys - MY APARTMENT got burned out, some personal looses also happened, did i ask any compensation or did you offer any compensation ??

 

@All Owners - Let me tell you what happened to my apartment , let me clarify. 

 

---Last Month, one honey bee guy came to VBHC to take out honey from my apartment balcony - neither me nor my tenant complained about this to association. 

 

-- VBHC maintenance guys allowed him into that block, handed over the roof key and allowed that guy to pour petrol in my balcony. 

 

-- No security guys were present with honey bee guys. 

 

-- Because of the petrol my balcony catches fire, check attached picture and imagine the amount of petrol were allowed inside the apartment ? 

 

Please take a note that NO1 was inside the apartment during that time and that was the best thing of that day. 

 

When i raised my concern to association, they said - they will keep custody of honey bee and let him pay for this. That poor guy called me and cried a lot and said " VBHC association allowed me inside and they supported the activity ". 

 

When i asked association they tried to make me fool by saying - 

- VBHC association didn't allow that guy. Really , if you guys didn't allow than WHO gave keys to honey bee guys ? The roof keys was given by property manager. 

- Why security guys allowed that person to come inside society with such amount of petrol ? 

 

I spoke with Manjunath -he said, he will make sure vendor will fix the door & paint house & he asked me NOT to ask any questions to association else your work couldn't be finished ( i have call records of that). 

 

Now all owners --  who is doing monopoly here ? I have a student tenant in my apartment & whose furniture , curtons etc,, got burned out -did he fought with association or anyone ? Did he or me asked for compensation ? 

 

Think if this is your apartment what could have you guys done and handled ? I am asking Manjunath what you would have done sir , when you get a call and got to you your apartment was set on fire because association allowed someone with petrol ? 

 

What are you guys views about this ? Please be clear and read above carefully. 

 

@Association - I request you please don't make monopoly and rules by yourself. 

 

Thanks

Amit Jha

 

 

On 13-Dec-2017 9:44 PM, "Nikunj Arya" <nikun...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

 

Who are you to ask money ? Share your name.

 

This is against which damage/cost ? It comes under which law/agreement ? Send me the contract/details for same.

 

As i told that my tenant is a student and I can't put additional burden for same. 

 

So, dont use this oppurtunity for benifit.

 

Regards,

Nikunj

 

 

 

On 13 Dec 2017 16:00, "VBHC Vaibhava Anekal Apartment Owners Association" <vva...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nikunj

 

Collect the fine amount from your tenant and transfer to association account..

 

Association had taken action will share it sooner.. but expect action from your end..

 

Thanks

VVAAOA

 

 

 

On 13-Dec-2017 2:43 PM, "Manjunath KP" <linux...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Nikunj,

 

With highest respect to you, rule of the thumb is, one's right for anything ends when other's begins. She may be right or wrong but what matters is other neighbours got disturbed from it.

 

If she is a student, she should behave like one. Boozing and fighting in the middle of the night does not go down well as a decent behaviour IMHO. Secondly, if you think that getting drunk was an excuse enough for any deeds, imagine, had that fight been fatal, it would have brought upon a lot of trouble to you being the owner of the house. If so, would you have repeated the same thing, they got drunk and ignore ?.

 

Thanks

Manjunath

 

 

 

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Nikunj Arya <nikun...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear,

 

My tenant is a Mba student and the argument happened was between two boys during a group party in her flat as both were drunk.

 

Well, under no circumstances you or anyone is allowed to use business or prostitution type of words for a student girl whom you dont even know.

 

Remember she is also daughter/sister of someone and if you dont know how to respect someone, at least dont disrespect.

 

Greetings,

Nikunj

 

On 12 Dec 2017 15:48, "Arindam patra" <arindam_...@yahoo.co.in > wrote:

Who knows..may be Mr.Nikunj is also involved in the business going on in his flat.

 

He is trying hard to make his business partners feel comfortable.

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On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 15:50, Nikunj Arya

<nikun...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dears,

 

I understand very well that my tenant is not fit for this society and i have given her a notice to vacate by end of this month.

 

But, my complaint was against the way situation was managed by association to cut electricity water supply. take her car keys and asking money to put back all things back in place. This type of behavior is dictatorship and association is not the law/judge to punish anyone in this way.

 

Anyways, Arun has returned the money and car keys to my tenant, so its ok for me now.

 

Regards,

Nikunj

 

On 11 Dec 2017 19:37, "Thayabaran Murugesan" <thay...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nikunj,

 

I feel completely unsafe here because of your tenant, do you think only girls are staying there in you flat? Do you know how many boys coming there daily night? You come and stay here with your family then support them . Association is doing great job and bringing everything in control. 

 

Thaya

 

On 11-Dec-2017 11:56 PM, "Basanta Nayak" <nayak....@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nikunj,

 

First of all you should thanks to the association members that they haven't put FIR against you. Instead asking and blaming to other Owner's and association you should vacant your tenant fisrt and then you can ask questions. Here association is doing great things and trying to sort out students nuisance and all of the remote and resident Owner's supported this. To let you know I am also remote Owner's and I fully agree on this and I believe all has to agree in sense of peace and society betterment.

 

It's your call now to take action/vacate this nasty tenant for whoom our society get blamed. Just think if you are staying and this incident happens to your side flat and then how much you will be disturbed.

 

@Assocition,

 

If you need my email support I am ready to give.

 

 

Regards,

Basanta

 

 

On Dec 11, 2017 1:12 PM, "'Arindam patra' via VBHC Anekel Phase3 Group" <VP...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Hi Nikunj,

 

It's an association.There will not be any in charge of such body.Legal notice?? Please go ahead.

 

Dear association and vbhc,

 

Time to unite and teach such tenants and owners. These are one who are responsible for spoiling ambience of VBHC.

 

Thanks,

Arindam Patra

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On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 22:12, VBHC Vaibhava Anekal Apartment Owners Association

<vva...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Nikunj

 

Your tenants had created lot of nuisance at midnight on last Friday in fully intoxicated mode, police from Anekal police station also visited your flat and security where also at that time..

 

Fyi: attached the videos.. this had been shared on all groups..

 

Instead of questioning your tenants you are abusing association and challenging the property manager who had taken action is completely wrong.. we also will handle this legally..

 

All owners in block16 know the incident and blood had been seen in the 7th floor and in the lift.. who is going to take responsibility for this fight.????

 

Other owners in block16 respond for this owners email to have peaceful night in your block..

 

Regards

VVAAOA

 

On 09-Dec-2017 9:03 PM, "Nikunj Arya" <nikun...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,

 

Your employee Arun ( GSM 7337798103 ) has threatened my tenant Harshini and took Rs. 2000 by forcefully taking her car keys and cutting electricity and water supply for my flat 16/706.

 

This is height of insanity and I am going to file a police complaint againt your association and Arun for same.

 

Also, tell me who is incharge for this association to whom a legal notice will be sent.

 

Best Regards,

Nikunj

 

 

 

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[Sasi rega]

Hi every one, 

Our family has 4 flats and all 5 are occupied by students. Till now there is no issue. They really maintain the flat neatly and we have regular interaction.  I feel association should deal with the particular flat owners who creates problems. Please don't justify the complete community of students with few culprits.

It was mentioned clearly that the problem arise only by the outsiders. What our security is doing.  

We can avoid with following

1. Giving stickers to all the vehicle

2. Not to allow visitors unless otherwise the resident call the security

3. Restrict number of visitors to particular flat

4. Collecting details like ph. Number, identy card etc for all the visitors

Etc

Some one had quoted, resources like water, current etc is being wasted by outsiders. My humble answer is please don't say only because of students

I have only two guys staying in my flat. I am paying the same society charge like other family members who are around 6 or more in a flat. Did we question?

Santhosh kumar

[Lester Prince Fernandes]

Hi Nikunj & Sasirega,

You do not stay in VBHC, so shut and listen to what others say. You have put hooligans in your flat who does all kinda nonsense in the society and you blame the association? 

Good work done by association by cutting the electricity and also penalizing the tenant. I say, please do not provide the electricity until the owner comes there and gives in writing. 

Don't you understand when 10 people say your tenant has created nuisance and we all know how Alliance students are.

Vacate your tenant and behave like an educated man rather than causing trouble and earning that rent money. 

Hope this message is clear to you. Be a human first rather than supporting wrong things.

Alliance students are all hooligans including girls. We know what they are. When you do not stay in VBHC - DO NOT TALK NONSENSE HERE. 

Thanks,

Lester Fernandes

 

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[Lester Prince Fernandes]

Nikunj,

You seem to talk big things. 

If you can talk - come to VBHC and show that in actions. Everybody talks and so you do - you have the guts to put rules in the society against students? 

DO IT. SHOW IT. THEN WE BELIEVE YOU. 

When you do not stay in VBHC - you are not aware of the how bad is the situations because of students. 

BE A MAN ! 

Thanks,

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[amitkumar shende]

Association,

Suggestion:

 

Fix the rent price (excluding maintenance) for 1 bhk, 2bhk and 3 bhk, There is should not be any min or max, only 1 rent price in any phase.. and same to be for family or student. All flats which are going to be on rent basis, needs to register with association under TooLet, and then only it can be given to rent. Then, giving flat only to students for getting extra bucks will come down. 

Thanks & Regards,


Amit

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