Re-reading the Canon. Lecture 1: Philosophy, Racist Ideology & Liberatory Pedagogy. A reflection on Kant & the canon problem

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Dear All,

 

You are cordially invited to the first lecture in the series: Re-reading the Canon. New perspectives on ignored problems!

 

The first lecture will be delievered by the great Huaping Lu-Adler.

 

Please find all details below!

 

I hope to see you there!

 

All the best,

Bjoern

 

 

Lecture 1

 

 

                                                              

 

 

Philosophy, Racist Ideology & Liberatory Pedagogy: 

a reflection on Kant & the canon problem

Huaping Lu-Adler

Associate Professor of Philosophy, Georgetown

Vice President, North American Kant Society

 

June 30, 2022, 4-6 pm (BST)

 

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Björn Freter (he/him/his), PhD

Lecturer in World Philosophy

School of History, Religions and Philosophies,

The School of Oriental & African Studies (SOAS),

University of London

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[Emeagwali, Gloria (History)]

Have the last word on this. You also

dismissed Bjoern’s critique of Kant

so I am in good company- and

he is a philosophy specialist.

I suggest that you attend this conference

on Racist Ideology with focus on Kant etc.

June 30, 2022.

Have a nice Kantian weekend.

GE

Professor Gloria Emeagwali
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Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

It's important to read critically rather than to impose ones preconceptions on what one reads.

I devoted an elaborate essay to a dialogue with Bjoern on Kant and you call that a dismissal?

Seems you might need to wear your scholarly hat more in social media dialogues instead of this tendecy to retreat into uncritical verbal brushstrokes when dealing with perspectives you don't agree with.

Have you read Kant? How much Kant do you know? How well have you understood what you know? How informed are you about the signposts of his work in relation to his total productivity? What is the scope of your analysis of Kant? To what degree do you engage with Kant scholarship?

These are the questions through which critique of a scholar's engagement with any body of knowledge, including  Kant Studies, is asessed.

It's not about projecting unsubstantiated views, ungrounded in both the primary subject and it's sorrounding scholarship.

Anyone can see that my Kant scholarship is grounded in close study of Kant, in a degree of relationship to the circles of scholarship developed in relation to his work, going beyond these to bring Kant's thought into dialogue with some of the greatest expressive achievements of various cultures, in various disciplines, Asian, African, Western, and to some degree, Islamic, from the visual and verbal arts to spirituality and philosophy, therefore I can't be accused of Eurocentric parochialism.

The simple truth is that certain achievements in all fields of endevour are unique miracles of creativity, distinctively demonstrating human potential, achievements that inspire acknowledgement from people of all ideological persuasions who understand them. The limitations of Kant's work do not deny him that distinction.

Your responses, indicating strongly  held and emotive convictions that do not demonstrate acquaintance with  Kant's work or with Kant scholarship, suggest one pole of the mythologising to which Kant is subjected.

The other pole sees him as the creator of a forbidding forest of thought, a solipsist living in his own mind, engrossed in his almost self flagellatory existence as a perpetual bachelor of amazingly routinised life style in one small town where he was born, when, in fact, his striking minimality of existence is about the discipline required to pursue the most fundamental questions without extranous considerations. 

We cant all live like that, and Kant had a richer social existence than is often attributed to him, succeeding in social integration as a university lecturer within which context he pursued his mental explorations, but we can learn from such people.

Such mythologising suggests there needs to be more texts that allow Kant to speak for himself, in tandem with close anaysis of what he says, analysis that is simple and clear, yet responding adequately to the profundities of the Konigsberg master.

My central interest in approaching Kant in that way is to foreground his character as a seeker of ultimate meaning, describing his awe at the wonder of existence and trying to map  various  responses to this wonder, in the context of asking how much human beings can really know about the mysterious immensity in which they find themselves and how they can live within the context of this mystery.

Kant is a fellow traveller for me in this quest in which I am also engaged. 

So, my study of Kant is centred in the raison d'etre of my life, it's ultimate purpose, yet approaches this coincidence of values between myself and the advocate of international unity in the critical spirit representing Kant at his best, while going beyond the limitations of his epistemology and developing his work in relation to a cultural ecumenism foreign to him.

 I thereby make my own contribution to Kant Studies and perhaps to the various subjects into which I bring him into dialogue with.

I wish you a nice, Afrocentric weekend.

Thanks

Toyin

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[Emeagwali, Gloria (History)]

Professor of Kantian Studies

and Social Media, 

we look forward to your brilliance

and “geniusness” at the June 30 

conference, and beyond.

Professor Gloria Emeagwali
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[Toyin Falola]

Gloria:

This is not nice.

TF

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Thanks, Gloria.

"Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju,  Kantian Professor and Chair in Social Media Studies.

A professorship awarded for  Adepoju's unusually innovative explorations of Kant, fine grained, multidisciplinary and multicultural studies bringing to a broad readership Kant's fellowship with humanity in pursuit of the most pressing questions of existence, doing this in terms of that most democratic of public platforms, social media, Adepoju's extensive publications in that medium making his work a landmark in new styles of scholarship at the entrance to a new millenium"

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Even better perhaps-

Kantian Professor of the Humanities.

According to one source, "Professor of the Humanities" is awarded for striking  achievement in various humanities disciplines.

Perhaps if I'm committed enough in broadening my scope, the award could even read "Kantian Professor of the Humanities, of Philosophy of Science and Social Media Studies"

Can you imagine that?!

One person carrying that load of award.

Toyin

[Dr. Oohay]

Nice Kantian weekend and nice Afrocentric weekend as aborted codas or bolekaja in the forests of ghosts.

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[Salimonu Kadiri]

​ From Salimonu Kadiri.

This Kant thing reminds me of what the late and the greatest Nigerian labour leader, Pa Michael Imodu, once expressed in pidgin English while stating his disappointment over how the educated (?) Nigerian class caused the ruin of Nigeria. He said, "A no go school - e better for me, because people wey go school e no get sense. If them get sense, Nigeria e no go be like this. Them talk say Nigeria be giant of Africa when for my two eyes na dwarf goat of Africa a de see." This Kant knowledge is not about generating and distributing electricity to Nigerian households, it is not about refining crude oil for Nigerian domestic consumption and it is not about pumping potable water into every household in Nigeria etc. To me, whatever is said about Kant is just like talking loudly and saying nothing. If Pa Imodu were still alive, he would have retorted, "Waiting concern me about Kant, na him go bring light, water, food for chop, house for sleep?"

S. Kadiri   

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Most knowledge, even in the sciences, is not about providing such basic infrastructural amenities as water and electricity, nor about addressing energy needs, invaluable as all those are.

Kant is about issues that are both fundamental to human existence and beyond material well being, issues that persist no matter how materially comfortable people are, how technologically and socially developed their society is, questions that have shaped human thought since humanity became aware of itself in the midst of the perplexities of existence and which will continue to reverberate as long as the human being remains trapped within the confines of cognitive limitations, a creature who ventures into space and the depths of the sea, but cannot decisively answer the question of the source and logic of it's existence and of the universe in which they find themselves. 

Why are we here? 

Why does the universe exist?

Does the cosmos have a beginning?

Will it have an end?

Is there life after death?

Is there God?

To what degree can we answer these questions?

How should we live in the face of these perplexities?

To answer these questions, each society creates myths, religions, philosphies and responses in the arts, initiatives also shaping the sciences, efforts that stretch perhaps from the earliest people to the present, across the world.

Kant seems to have been a deeply religious person who once thought his Christian faith answered those questions.

He then began to look closely at that faith, wondering about the foundations of those things it claimed to know.

He concludes that such knowledge does not really exist. 

Belief in God, in the immortality of the soul, etc is a matter of faith, not knowledge, he argues, with particular force in A Critique of Pure Reason.

Kant's profound sensitivity to these ultimate questions drives his work, even as it's soaring power may be seen as shot through with a sense of frustration at not being able to go beyond the limitations of the mind in exploring these questions.

Some of the most powerful expressions of the human hunger for ultimate knowledge, for a grasp of the unity and purpose of the cosmos, are found in A Critique of Pure Reason, even as Kant argues that such knowledge is impossible on account of limitations created by the structure of the human mind and how it gains knowledge.

Kant's writings demonstrate some of the greatest expressions of wonder at the cosmos, a wonder he struggles to describe without invoking religious ideas, but, his description of encounter with phenomena that both make the human being feel small on account of their vastness and yet elevated through their inspirational power, the Sublime,  is an analogue of his sensitivity to cosmic immensity and his unfufilled hunger for greater understanding of it.

In his great reflection on time and eternity, mortality and im mortality, the minisculity of Earth within the temporal and spatial vastness of the celestial bodies, he is unable to escape  a spiritualist orientation, suggesting the shaping foundationality of his Christian background, as he projects an expectation to subsist into eternity, after the "flesh of my body has returned to the elements, having been imbued for a short while with vital force through an unknown process," as he states in Critique of Practical Reason.

My most intense encounter with the sacred has been at the Ogba forest in Benin-City, suffused by an awesome atmosphere described as demonstrating the presence of the goddess there, as such spiritual presences are to be found at every place where a river breaks ground for the first time, as the Ogba river does at that forest, as Benin spiritual belief was explained to me in connection with the forest.

How can I explain that experience, something I encountered before learning of the belief in a goddess there,a sense of presence that people recognised without performing any religious activity there, as when they went there to get  water or swim, a presence that was a part of the landscape?

"An invisible but majestic presence that inspires both dread and fascination and constitutes  the non-rational element of vital religion" sums up my experience beautifully, being a Webster dictionary definition of the term "numinous" as developed by Rodolf Otto in The Idea of the Holy, Otto being a deep Kant scholar, whose epochal book may be understood in relation to Kant on the Sublime , developing a similar thesis as Kant's through cupious examples from Western and Asian religions.

Kant cannot be for me simply a person from another century, from a different country, who held views that display a conceited ignorance about Africa, where I am from.

He is for me a fellow traveler, stranded in a location which he does not know how he got there, where he  is going, nor even why he exists in the first place, a person, who, in spite of his ignorance, which he mistook for knowledge, was  deeply insightful about the most fundamental of human psychological, spiritual and intellectual needs.

Thanks

Toyin

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[Harrow, Kenneth]

toyin, your engagement with kant is impressive and pretty wonderful. he too can be critiqued for the racist assumptions of his generation--all the thinkers in the west of the 19^th century were prone to the assumptions about superior or inferior peoples, which thoughts are now rejected by all thinkers of our times....

anyway, where do you go after kant for your work? do you continue with hegel? i read up some levinas a few years ago, which i enjoyed. but i really want to engage heidegger., nazi or not, i am still very interested in reading more about his work in Being and Time, etc.

and can't help wonder what arendt saw in him after the war was over.... or even earlier....'

ken

kenneth harrow

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dept of english

michigan state university

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[Toyin Falola]

Ken/Adepoju/Gloria:

My critique of the pioneer of the African academy is that we erected canons too quickly. We treated virtually all pioneers as “canonical” to the extent that subsequent generations may become disappointed.

And concerning Kant and many others, we must read into them the context of the time.

All of us are products of this moment. If Africa were to transform itself in the way we want, generations in the future would pose the question: Why did Falola leave Nigeria? Why did he stop writing about regional histories, which was how I began.

We all will be criticized—some condemned—after we are long gone. Another generation will be products of other contexts.

Today, many of us make situational/locational arguments, which may not be translatable to the concerns of future generations.

You cannot criticize Jesus for recognizing the Emperor!

TF

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Lecture 1

 

 

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Philosophy, Racist Ideology & Liberatory Pedagogy: 

a reflection on Kant & the canon problem

Huaping Lu-Adler

Associate Professor of Philosophy, Georgetown

Vice President, North American Kant Society

 

June 30, 2022, 4-6 pm (BST)

 

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Thanks Ken.

Study of Kant is unending, as with any scholar or writer of sufficient depth and scope.

Heidegger is magnificent. His Nazism is perhaps a complex mix of survival strategy, nationalism, egotism and political blindness.

It would seem Arendt may have made it clear that the compelling force of Heidegger's cognitive wizadry, dramatised both in his teaching  style and his books  remained undeniable in spite of his betrayal of loyalties to his Jewish comrades, such as herself, devoted former student and lover, land his former teacher, Edmund Husserl, to whom he dedicated Being and Time,  with Husserl  telling a heart rending story, of how, Heidegger, now rector of the university, denied him access to a crucial university library under orders from his Nazi masters restricting access to Jews, if I recall the story correctly.

The issues have been severally chewed over, with Richard Wollin's movingly titled book Heidegger's Children, referring to his Jewish students/disciples, being the one that comes to my mind.

Arendt, though, seems to have a had a complex relationship with the tension between  her philosphical vocation and approaches to Jewishness, as suggested by the complexities of her relationship with Gershom Scholem, founder of the modern study of Kabbalah and Jewish mysticism as one of the most prominent scholars of the Hebrew University Jerusalem, even from the earlier years of European Jewish migration to Isreal made more urgent by the upheavals climaxing in the Holocaust,  a context in which Scholem defined himself, and for whom a person like Arendt may have seemed not sufficiently identified with could have seemed to him the life and death question of what it meant to be Jewish at that point in history.

Knott's edited The Correspondence of Hannah Arendt and Gershom Scholem, from the way it's described, is a moving exploration of the intersection of the German high culture in which these intellectual masters were formed, their struggles to identify, contruct and navigate their Jewish identities at the convergence  of universalist principles of scholarship and imediate social particularities.

Ideally, I should commit myself to a comprehensive study of world philosophy, spirituality, literature, arts, and, as far as I can understand it, science, since those are my interests. It would be great if I could be motivated and disciplined enough to pursue this goal.

Falola puts it well: the humility of context.

Great thanks

Toyin

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[Harrow, Kenneth]

would love to respond to your reflections, toyin. they all touch on issues of great interest to me

(can't write right now)

ken

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Thanks, Ken.

You are much closer to that history.

Toyin

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[Salimonu Kadiri]

​Most educated Nigeria do not possess the knowledge required for the offices in which they are employed and heavily remunerated. Education, individually or collectively, is useless if it cannot lead us to produce what we need. The importance of education in Nigeria was first highlighted during the question time in the Federal Parliament in 1961 by Dr Nnamani who asked the government why there were still expatriate officers in the country despite Nigeria being independent. Answering on behalf of the government, Zana Bukar Dipcharima said that Nigerians were all around the world studying to acquire knowledge and, on their return, they would give Nigeria the manpower needed to turn our country into paradise on earth when educated returnees might have bombarded the abundant natural resources in the country with their knowledge. In fact, by 1964, all the ministries, departments and agencies had been taken over from expatriates by educated Nigerians and thereby gave credence to the aphorism that what Europeans could do, Nigerians could do it better. But as we have experienced hitherto, that aphorism is true only in the sense that educated Nigerians are much more ruthless in the exploitation of the uneducated Nigeria's masses than the European colonialists.

Most knowledge, even in the sciences, is not about providing such basic infrastructural amenities as water and electricity, nor about addressing energy needs invaluable as all those are - Oluwatoyin V. Adepoju. 

I would have considered Mr. Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju a serious Kant Evangelist for dismissing knowledge as a provider of basic infrastructural amenities were it not for his post on this forum on Wednesday, 19 September 2018, titled - Scholarship in a World of Poor Electricity : The Nigerian Example. Our 2022 Kant Evangelist who is now preaching to us that man does not need knowledge to produce basic infrastructural amenity as water and electricity wrote in 2018 : I have been struggling for days in my home in Lagos with trying to meet externally created and self-generated deadlines on a number of essays.

But there has been a blackout of electricity in our neighbourhood for days.

I have access to a number of online databases but the scope of my use of these information systems is limited by access to electricity.

I have to fall back on prints of essays since access to electronic copies of essays is challenged by poor electricity. How are Nigerian Scholars coping? This situation has not changed for decades. It is horrible. Is it possible to do ones best in such an environment as a Scholar or other creative who requires electricity? May God help Nigeria, Black people and Africa. Most educated Nigerians are fictional academics producing imaginary developments while parasitising on the collectively owned natural resources of Nigeria to the exclusion of the masses of Nigeria without conscience.

S. Kadiri

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Where did I write this

" dismissing knowledge as a provider of basic infrastructural amenities..."

When a response to a serious analysis of the different kinds of knowledge required by humanity degenerates into fictional claims that such an analysis argues that knowledge is unnecessary for proving electricity, water and the likes, what's the point of trying to engage with such thinking?

I wonder why Kant is inspiring such extremist responses.

Thanks

Toyin

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[Harrow, Kenneth]

hi toyin, i am not sure how to respond to your letter in a way that also corresponds to the interests of others on this  list as we have moved far from africa. i could write you personally, and you can reach me at har...@msu.edu.

i am not the expert you are in this topic, but let me say a few things. i have, since retirement a few years ago, had the occasion to read a bit more arendt. (all of my generation knew her first through The Origins of Totalitarianism and then The Human Condition, but i had never bothered to read Eichmann in Jerusalem. YOu don't mention that, although you refer to Gershom scholem, and there so much lies. Arendt's generation included the brilliant german jewish cadre formed not only by husserl, but later levinas and then the most exciting, nowadays, benjamin. She was exactly as you said, between Heidegger and the close friends you mentioned. But what you left out, what l learned was at the heart of so so much of the strife of that period, pre-war german and european intelligentsia, was the deep division between the zionists, like scholem and the leftists, like benjamin-arendt-adorno, etc. who became central to two things. first, their entire intellectual generation and their world got destroyed with the holocaust. for some the solution was zionism, not diaspora. arendt, originally zionist, opted for the diaspora.

she wrote about the "banality" of evil, which got blown into a gigantic strike against her (like me using the word "trash"). but more importantly, most importantly, she revealed/wrote about the horrific ethical dilemma imposed on jews who were used by the nazis to set up the apparatus of the  deportation of jews, of the management of their communities in all the european countries conquered by the nazis, and then, in the running of the camps.

it was a bitter pill, is a bitter pill, for any jew to swallow, especially zionist jews who did not want any of the vile associations that arose out of this tragedy. so they took her depiction of eichmann as an ordinary, not very bright man, whose organizational way of thinking, whose skirting of the real import of the organizing of mass murder, could be described in a way as banal. she was violently, bitterly attacked. but when i read her book 4 or so years ago, i was deeply impressed by the ethical standard she tried to erect for humans to uphold in times of genocide.

she wrote about totalitarianism, understanding its roots in german practices with the herero, and sympathetic to african struggles--but not as one of our generation who could have risen above the racism commonplaces and beliefs of the day. a shame, but like the business of kant, hegel or heidegger etc., part of the "context" of their worlds. 

connor cruise o'brien wrote about the racism of camus in his treatment of "the arab" in L'Etranger. but camus devoted himself to the leftist struggles against colonialism in algeria, even if he couldn't support the revolution. he was blamed by o'brien for not holding the progressive views of those who came two generations later; i thought he was unfair to camus.

how do we all deal with the prejudices of former generations? who of us can point to our parents or grandparents and say they were free from prejudices against other people. afraid i can't. and no doubt my grandchildren will have lots to criticize in me, in time.

we can live, then, with the perspective of those looking back--like benjamin's angel of history, seeing only the devastation of the past. but what of the present? i read about benjamin's choice to commit suicide and weep, it is so sad.  he faced the immediacy of the threat. i can look back and say, wait a moment, walter, wait just one more day and you will survive. but it is always too late.

so time determines context. the immediate moment offers a "context" that is felt in the bone, and you have to act; after, well, you reflect and understand differently.

ken

kenneth harrow

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dept of english

michigan state university

517 803-8839

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[Salimonu Kadiri]

​And what did you mean when you wrote this : MOST KNOWLEDGE, EVEN IN SCIENCES, IS NOT ABOUT PROVIDING SUCH BASIC INFRASTRUCTURAL AMENITIES AS WATER AND ELECTRICITY, NOR ABOUT ADDRESSING ENERGY NEEDS, INVALUABLE AS ALL THOSE ARE. Feigning Solomon and Sampson in one incredible delusion do not constitute a serious analysis of the different kinds of knowledge required by humanity. Yes, Nigeria requires different kinds of knowledge to develop economically and industrially but that does not under any circumstance include knowledge of who was Kant and what he stood for. The economic and industrial underdevelopment of Nigeria today are caused by educated parasites, beset with irrelevant and useless knowledge, presiding over the nation's Ministries, Departments and Agencies. Disprove me if you think I am wrong.

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Where did I write this

" dismissing knowledge as a provider of basic infrastructural amenities..."

When a response to a serious analysis of the different kinds of knowledge required by humanity degenerates into fictional claims that such an analysis argues that knowledge is unnecessary for proving electricity, water and the likes, what's the point of trying to engage with such thinking?

I wonder why Kant is inspiring such extremist responses.

Thanks

Toyin

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 22:12 Salimonu Kadiri <ogunl...@hotmail.com<mailto:ogunl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
​Most educated Nigeria do not possess the knowledge required for the offices in which they are employed and heavily remunerated. Education, individually or collectively, is useless if it cannot lead us to produce what we need. The importance of education in Nigeria was first highlighted during the question time in the Federal Parliament in 1961 by Dr Nnamani who asked the government why there were still expatriate officers in the country despite Nigeria being independent. Answering on behalf of the government, Zana Bukar Dipcharima said that Nigerians were all around the world studying to acquire knowledge and, on their return, they would give Nigeria the manpower needed to turn our country into paradise on earth when educated returnees might have bombarded the abundant natural resources in the country with their knowledge. In fact, by 1964, all the ministries, departments and agencies had been taken over from expatriates by educated Nigerians and thereby gave credence to the aphorism that what Europeans could do, Nigerians could do it better. But as we have experienced hitherto, that aphorism is true only in the sense that educated Nigerians are much more ruthless in the exploitation of the uneducated Nigeria's masses than the European colonialists.

Most knowledge, even in the sciences, is not about providing such basic infrastructural amenities as water and electricity, nor about addressing energy needs invaluable as all those are - Oluwatoyin V. Adepoju.

I would have considered Mr. Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju a serious Kant Evangelist for dismissing knowledge as a provider of basic infrastructural amenities were it not for his post on this forum on Wednesday, 19 September 2018, titled - Scholarship in a World of Poor Electricity : The Nigerian Example. Our 2022 Kant Evangelist who is now preaching to us that man does not need knowledge to produce basic infrastructural amenity as water and electricity wrote in 2018 : I have been struggling for days in my home in Lagos with trying to meet externally created and self-generated deadlines on a number of essays.
But there has been a blackout of electricity in our neighbourhood for days.
I have access to a number of online databases but the scope of my use of these information systems is limited by access to electricity.
I have to fall back on prints of essays since access to electronic copies of essays is challenged by poor electricity. How are Nigerian Scholars coping? This situation has not changed for decades. It is horrible. Is it possible to do ones best in such an environment as a Scholar or other creative who requires electricity? May God help Nigeria, Black people and Africa. Most educated Nigerians are fictional academics producing imaginary developments while parasitising on the collectively owned natural resources of Nigeria to the exclusion of the masses of Nigeria without conscience.
S. Kadiri

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On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 22:50 Salimonu Kadiri <ogunl...@hotmail.com<mailto:ogunl...@hotmail.com>> wrote:
​ From Salimonu Kadiri.
This Kant thing reminds me of what the late and the greatest Nigerian labour leader, Pa Michael Imodu, once expressed in pidgin English while stating his disappointment over how the educated (?) Nigerian class caused the ruin of Nigeria. He said, "A no go school - e better for me, because people wey go school e no get sense. If them get sense, Nigeria e no go be like this. Them talk say Nigeria be giant of Africa when for my two eyes na dwarf goat of Africa a de see." This Kant knowledge is not about generating and distributing electricity to Nigerian households, it is not about refining crude oil for Nigerian domestic consumption and it is not about pumping potable water into every household in Nigeria etc. To me, whatever is said about Kant is just like talking loudly and saying nothing. If Pa Imodu were still alive, he would have retorted, "Waiting concern me about Kant, na him go bring light, water, food for chop, house for sleep?"
S. Kadiri

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Even better perhaps-

Kantian Professor of the Humanities.

According to one source, "Professor of the Humanities" is awarded for striking achievement in various humanities disciplines.

Perhaps if I'm committed enough in broadening my scope, the award could even read "Kantian Professor of the Humanities, of Philosophy of Science and Social Media Studies"

Can you imagine that?!

One person carrying that load of award.

Toyin

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 16:59 Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovde...@gmail.com<mailto:ovde...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Thanks, Gloria.

"Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju, Kantian Professor and Chair in Social Media Studies.

A professorship awarded for Adepoju's unusually innovative explorations of Kant, fine grained, multidisciplinary and multicultural studies bringing to a broad readership Kant's fellowship with humanity in pursuit of the most pressing questions of existence, doing this in terms of that most democratic of public platforms, social media, Adepoju's extensive publications in that medium making his work a landmark in new styles of scholarship at the entrance to a new millenium"

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 14:42 Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emea...@ccsu.edu<mailto:emea...@ccsu.edu>> wrote:
Professor of Kantian Studies
and Social Media,
we look forward to your brilliance
and “geniusness” at the June 30
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[Cornelius Hamelberg]

After the philosophers on the USA-Africa Dialogue Series come to terms with Immanuel Kant and race ( if ever) , then what ?

Since it’s real and not metaphysical darkness that, on and off,  Kant’s apostle Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju has been complaining about, there’s also this compelling on-going series Let there be light - real light, the light that shineth in the darkness and the darkness comprehendeth it not..

From there, the next natural/ super-natural step was 

“Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night:God said, Let Newton be! and all was light.”

Time to move from tantrums about  can’t expect light always whilst  glowing with adoration for his lordship Immanuel Kant of  Königsberg and to swiftly change alliance to Newton if you want to stop reading by candlelight in 21century Lagos…

[Harrow, Kenneth]

what is the use of philosophy?

what value do we set to life, and why?

ken

kenneth harrow

professor emeritus

dept of english

michigan state university

517 803-8839

har...@msu.edu

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​And what did you mean when you wrote this : MOST KNOWLEDGE, EVEN IN SCIENCES, IS NOT ABOUT PROVIDING SUCH BASIC INFRASTRUCTURAL AMENITIES AS WATER AND ELECTRICITY, NOR ABOUT ADDRESSING ENERGY NEEDS, INVALUABLE AS ALL THOSE ARE. Feigning Solomon and Sampson in one incredible delusion do not constitute a serious analysis of the different kinds of knowledge required by humanity. Yes, Nigeria requires different kinds of knowledge to develop economically and industrially but that does not under any circumstance include knowledge of who was Kant and what he stood for. The economic and industrial underdevelopment of Nigeria today are caused by educated parasites, beset with irrelevant and useless knowledge, presiding over the nation's Ministries, Departments and Agencies. Disprove me if you think I am wrong. 

​S. Kadiri

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Where did I write this

" dismissing knowledge as a provider of basic infrastructural amenities..."

When a response to a serious analysis of the different kinds of knowledge required by humanity degenerates into fictional claims that such an analysis argues that knowledge is unnecessary for proving electricity, water and the likes, what's the point of trying to engage with such thinking?

I wonder why Kant is inspiring such extremist responses.

Thanks

Toyin

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 22:12 Salimonu Kadiri <ogunl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

​Most educated Nigeria do not possess the knowledge required for the offices in which they are employed and heavily remunerated. Education, individually or collectively, is useless if it cannot lead us to produce what we need. The importance of education in Nigeria was first highlighted during the question time in the Federal Parliament in 1961 by Dr Nnamani who asked the government why there were still expatriate officers in the country despite Nigeria being independent. Answering on behalf of the government, Zana Bukar Dipcharima said that Nigerians were all around the world studying to acquire knowledge and, on their return, they would give Nigeria the manpower needed to turn our country into paradise on earth when educated returnees might have bombarded the abundant natural resources in the country with their knowledge. In fact, by 1964, all the ministries, departments and agencies had been taken over from expatriates by educated Nigerians and thereby gave credence to the aphorism that what Europeans could do, Nigerians could do it better. But as we have experienced hitherto, that aphorism is true only in the sense that educated Nigerians are much more ruthless in the exploitation of the uneducated Nigeria's masses than the European colonialists.

Most knowledge, even in the sciences, is not about providing such basic infrastructural amenities as water and electricity, nor about addressing energy needs invaluable as all those are - Oluwatoyin V. Adepoju. 

I would have considered Mr. Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju a serious Kant Evangelist for dismissing knowledge as a provider of basic infrastructural amenities were it not for his post on this forum on Wednesday, 19 September 2018, titled - Scholarship in a World of Poor Electricity : The Nigerian Example. Our 2022 Kant Evangelist who is now preaching to us that man does not need knowledge to produce basic infrastructural amenity as water and electricity wrote in 2018 : I have been struggling for days in my home in Lagos with trying to meet externally created and self-generated deadlines on a number of essays.

But there has been a blackout of electricity in our neighbourhood for days.

I have access to a number of online databases but the scope of my use of these information systems is limited by access to electricity.

I have to fall back on prints of essays since access to electronic copies of essays is challenged by poor electricity. How are Nigerian Scholars coping? This situation has not changed for decades. It is horrible. Is it possible to do ones best in such an environment as a Scholar or other creative who requires electricity? May God help Nigeria, Black people and Africa. Most educated Nigerians are fictional academics producing imaginary developments while parasitising on the collectively owned natural resources of Nigeria to the exclusion of the masses of Nigeria without conscience.

S. Kadiri

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Even better perhaps-

Kantian Professor of the Humanities.

According to one source, "Professor of the Humanities" is awarded for striking  achievement in various humanities disciplines.

Perhaps if I'm committed enough in broadening my scope, the award could even read "Kantian Professor of the Humanities, of Philosophy of Science and Social Media Studies"

Can you imagine that?!

One person carrying that load of award.

Toyin

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 16:59 Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovde...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Gloria.

"Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju,  Kantian Professor and Chair in Social Media Studies.

A professorship awarded for  Adepoju's unusually innovative explorations of Kant, fine grained, multidisciplinary and multicultural studies bringing to a broad readership Kant's fellowship with humanity in pursuit of the most pressing questions of existence, doing this in terms of that most democratic of public platforms, social media, Adepoju's extensive publications in that medium making his work a landmark in new styles of scholarship at the entrance to a new millenium"

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 14:42 Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emea...@ccsu.edu> wrote:

Professor of Kantian Studies

and Social Media, 

we look forward to your brilliance

and “geniusness” at the June 30 

conference, and beyond.

Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History/African Studies, CCSU

africahistory.net; vimeo.com/ gloriaemeagwali

Recipient of the 2014 Distinguished Research
Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association

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Dear All,

 

You are cordially invited to the first lecture in the series: Re-reading the Canon. New perspectives on ignored problems!

 

The first lecture will be delievered by the great Huaping Lu-Adler.

 

Please find all details below!

 

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Lecture 1

 

 

                                                              

 

 

Philosophy, Racist Ideology & Liberatory Pedagogy: 

a reflection on Kant & the canon problem

Huaping Lu-Adler

Associate Professor of Philosophy, Georgetown

Vice President, North American Kant Society

 

June 30, 2022, 4-6 pm (BST)

 

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Na wa.

''Yes, Nigeria requires different kinds of knowledge to develop economically and industrially but that does not under any circumstance include knowledge of who was Kant and what he stood for. The economic and industrial underdevelopment of Nigeria today are caused by educated parasites, beset with irrelevant and useless knowledge, presiding over the nation's Ministries, Departments and Agencies. Disprove me if you think I am wrong. ''

Salimonu Kadiri

''A doctor had his driver stop at Lagos' Third Mainland Bridge. He got out of his car and climbed the railing, preparing to jump into the water,  as a crowd gathered. I approached him and wondered aloud why he would want to end his life,a great gift with infinite potential, a potential even greater than that of the stars, stars he can see but which cannot see him, a life vibrant in the fires of his inner life. How many lives could be blighted or lost if he, a healer, were to end his own life in a country where there were  so so few doctors?' I spoke gently and he listened.

 'What really is the problem? I asked. 'He told me his life had collapsed and he felt himself worthless. 'Really?' I queried. 'But many would be ecstatic to be in your position,' I told him, 'given that you are alive and healthy.' 'Come, let's talk about it,' I urged him.''

This is the founding story of the Fraternity of  Solace, a secular mission founded to help people overcome crisis, psychological, physical, spiritual. The founder, known only as God's Greatness Crowning, states that she  is inspired by her introduction  at the University of Lagos to the work of the German philosopher Immanuel Kant who celebrates the glory of living and the need to treat each person as having infinite value.

The mission was founded in the depths of escalating economic and security crisis in Nigeria. It  operates through counselling and physical assistance to people in need.

Berlin, 1945. The Second World War had come to a devastating end for the Axis Powers, led by Germany.  After months of terrific bombardment  had reduced much of the city to rubble, the conquering US and Russian armies had converged in Berlin,  the German capital, with the capture of Adolf Hitler, the German leader, one of their  primary goals. 

''In the midst of the life and death struggle of Berliners within this hell, I thought, more than once, of taking my life,'' states Klaus Johannan, ''having endured rape, starvation and homelessness. But at night, sleeping on the street, with the sky as the only roof over me, the stars would enthrall me, a magnificent display for everyone, and for me alone. I felt free, lifted into their timeless brilliance,  liberated from the agonies of earth, projected into eternity. In this way, I gained the strength to survive day after day.''

''After much struggle, I became a local government chairman,'' states Niyi Akande,  of his life as a politician in Nigeria's Ekiti State. ''I experienced intense pressure,'' he discloses, ''to share the state government's allocations to the local government among a network of supporters and other powerful figures. It was a constant battle with my conscience'' he describes. ''My heart  kept struggling between the idea of how to behave in a way that would benefit the larger body of those  I was elected to be responsible for and those few associates who insisted that without them I would not have been elected, the many and the few, the electorate and the enablers''.

''As a new employee at one of Nigeria's power distribution companies'', states Nicholas Ekundayo, ''I was appalled at the practice of replacing fuses in transformers with copper wires  in order to sell the fuses, leading to the copper wire experiencing burn out and causing recurrent power outages in the affected communities.''

''Why can't we, the custodians of this resource people depend so much on, not behave in a way we would like to become a normal way of life, even a law, for everyone? A way of life benefiting everybody?"

All these stories are fictional scenarios evoking the creative possibilities of Kantian thought. The story of the doctor about to take his life on Third Mainland Bridge adapts  a report of an actual suicide on the bridge in visualising how the story could have been different, drawing on Kant's great meditation on self and cosmos, time and infinity, within the context of the celestial bodies in Critique of Pure Reason as well as Kant's ethical philosophy of treating human beings as ends in themselves, not means to ends, an idea suggesting the infinite creative potential of the human person, a potential dramatised in the meditation on self and cosmos.

The account of a woman, Kluas Johannan,  in 1945 Berlin,  is inspired by Annemarie Schimmel's story of how the Islamic mystical writings of Abdullah-i Ansari inspired her will live to live in the chaos of 1945 Berlin. This scenario is reworked  in terms of Kant's meditation on self and cosmos in relation to the stars in Critique of Practical Reason.

Schimmel's account is deeply memorable:

It was a night of despair, a cold October night, 1945, in Germany. We were sitting in a dirty railway station, lucky to have found at least one place to spend the night after long and uncomfortable travelling. People around me tried to sleep, or talked about the horrors of the war, of imprisonment, or hunger...I took from my coat's pocket a small book that had survived wartime Berlin, deportation, and internment, and had given me unending consolation during those years [Abdullah-i Ansari's] Munajat which I had found in the Berlin print of 1924 sometime during the war. 

Once more I delved into its depths, scribbled some rhyming translations of its pithy sayings and verses between the lines, and was carried away from the ''world'' in its ugliest aspects into the realm of peace [through]the wisdom of a searching and suffering man who poured out his feelings in the presence of his Lord like little sighs... 

( From Ibn 'Ata' Illah, The Book of Wisdom; Kwaja Abdullah Ansari, Intimate Conversations. Translated by Victor Danner and Wheeler Thackston. Preface by Annemaire Schimmel. Paulist, Press, 1978, xii-xiii).

 

The narrative of the local government chairman Niyi Akande adapts my expectations of the logic of corruption in Nigeria in terms of the values that shape behaviour in such contexts. The central inspiring idea in that story is Kant's famous ethical concept, the Categorical Imperative, which I understand may be stated as  ''behave in such a way as you would wish to become a universal law in a world you would want to live in.''

The picture of Nicholas Ekundayo at a Nigerian power distribution company is reimagined from an actual account of one of the reasons why Nigerians suffer power outages. It reflects on the internal world, the universe of motivations, of people who engage in the negative practices described, in terms of possible motivations to do things differently, an imaginative reworking of the implications of Kant's Categorical Imperative.

Development and underdevelopment embrace the entire spectrum of quality of life, within and beyond material well being, implicating how the material, the psychological and the social shape each other.

Nigeria is underdeveloped significantly beceause of the values of those who manage it. Philosophy is about values, about reflecting on possibilities of how to live, and of the logic of living, in order to arrive at optimum existence. 

If those who manage the country were more motivated by the lofty values represented by thought like that of Kant, the country would become paradise.

Those fictional scenarios can be multiplied indefinitely, drawing from different Kantian ideas and texts as inspiration, relating their inspiring values to actual historical and contemporary contexts in Nigeria and across the world.

thanks

toyin

On Sat, 25 Jun 2022 at 11:25, Salimonu Kadiri <ogunl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

​And what did you mean when you wrote this : MOST KNOWLEDGE, EVEN IN SCIENCES, IS NOT ABOUT PROVIDING SUCH BASIC INFRASTRUCTURAL AMENITIES AS WATER AND ELECTRICITY, NOR ABOUT ADDRESSING ENERGY NEEDS, INVALUABLE AS ALL THOSE ARE. Feigning Solomon and Sampson in one incredible delusion do not constitute a serious analysis of the different kinds of knowledge required by humanity. Yes, Nigeria requires different kinds of knowledge to develop economically and industrially but that does not under any circumstance include knowledge of who was Kant and what he stood for. The economic and industrial underdevelopment of Nigeria today are caused by educated parasites, beset with irrelevant and useless knowledge, presiding over the nation's Ministries, Departments and Agencies. Disprove me if you think I am wrong. 

​S. Kadiri

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Where did I write this

" dismissing knowledge as a provider of basic infrastructural amenities..."

When a response to a serious analysis of the different kinds of knowledge required by humanity degenerates into fictional claims that such an analysis argues that knowledge is unnecessary for proving electricity, water and the likes, what's the point of trying to engage with such thinking?

I wonder why Kant is inspiring such extremist responses.

Thanks

Toyin

On Wed, Jun 22, 2022, 22:12 Salimonu Kadiri <ogunl...@hotmail.com> wrote:

​Most educated Nigeria do not possess the knowledge required for the offices in which they are employed and heavily remunerated. Education, individually or collectively, is useless if it cannot lead us to produce what we need. The importance of education in Nigeria was first highlighted during the question time in the Federal Parliament in 1961 by Dr Nnamani who asked the government why there were still expatriate officers in the country despite Nigeria being independent. Answering on behalf of the government, Zana Bukar Dipcharima said that Nigerians were all around the world studying to acquire knowledge and, on their return, they would give Nigeria the manpower needed to turn our country into paradise on earth when educated returnees might have bombarded the abundant natural resources in the country with their knowledge. In fact, by 1964, all the ministries, departments and agencies had been taken over from expatriates by educated Nigerians and thereby gave credence to the aphorism that what Europeans could do, Nigerians could do it better. But as we have experienced hitherto, that aphorism is true only in the sense that educated Nigerians are much more ruthless in the exploitation of the uneducated Nigeria's masses than the European colonialists.

Most knowledge, even in the sciences, is not about providing such basic infrastructural amenities as water and electricity, nor about addressing energy needs invaluable as all those are - Oluwatoyin V. Adepoju. 

I would have considered Mr. Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju a serious Kant Evangelist for dismissing knowledge as a provider of basic infrastructural amenities were it not for his post on this forum on Wednesday, 19 September 2018, titled - Scholarship in a World of Poor Electricity : The Nigerian Example. Our 2022 Kant Evangelist who is now preaching to us that man does not need knowledge to produce basic infrastructural amenity as water and electricity wrote in 2018 : I have been struggling for days in my home in Lagos with trying to meet externally created and self-generated deadlines on a number of essays.

But there has been a blackout of electricity in our neighbourhood for days.

I have access to a number of online databases but the scope of my use of these information systems is limited by access to electricity.

I have to fall back on prints of essays since access to electronic copies of essays is challenged by poor electricity. How are Nigerian Scholars coping? This situation has not changed for decades. It is horrible. Is it possible to do ones best in such an environment as a Scholar or other creative who requires electricity? May God help Nigeria, Black people and Africa. Most educated Nigerians are fictional academics producing imaginary developments while parasitising on the collectively owned natural resources of Nigeria to the exclusion of the masses of Nigeria without conscience.

S. Kadiri

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From: usaafric...@googlegroups.com <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovde...@gmail.com>

Sent: 19 June 2022 01:14

To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com <usaafric...@googlegroups.com>

From: usaafric...@googlegroups.com <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovde...@gmail.com>

Sent: 18 June 2022 18:53
To: usaafricadialogue <USAAfric...@googlegroups.com>

Subject: Re: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re-reading the Canon. Lecture 1: Philosophy, Racist Ideology & Liberatory Pedagogy. A reflection on Kant & the canon problem

Even better perhaps-

Kantian Professor of the Humanities.

According to one source, "Professor of the Humanities" is awarded for striking  achievement in various humanities disciplines.

Perhaps if I'm committed enough in broadening my scope, the award could even read "Kantian Professor of the Humanities, of Philosophy of Science and Social Media Studies"

Can you imagine that?!

One person carrying that load of award.

Toyin

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 16:59 Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovde...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Gloria.

"Oluwatoyin Vincent Adepoju,  Kantian Professor and Chair in Social Media Studies.

A professorship awarded for  Adepoju's unusually innovative explorations of Kant, fine grained, multidisciplinary and multicultural studies bringing to a broad readership Kant's fellowship with humanity in pursuit of the most pressing questions of existence, doing this in terms of that most democratic of public platforms, social media, Adepoju's extensive publications in that medium making his work a landmark in new styles of scholarship at the entrance to a new millenium"

On Sat, Jun 18, 2022, 14:42 Emeagwali, Gloria (History) <emea...@ccsu.edu> wrote:

Professor of Kantian Studies

and Social Media, 

we look forward to your brilliance

and “geniusness” at the June 30 

conference, and beyond.

Professor Gloria Emeagwali
Prof. of History/African Studies, CCSU

africahistory.net; vimeo.com/ gloriaemeagwali

Recipient of the 2014 Distinguished Research
Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association

From: usaafric...@googlegroups.com <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of Oluwatoyin Adepoju <ovde...@gmail.com>

Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2022 3:34 AM

To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com <usaafric...@googlegroups.com>

africahistory.net; vimeo.com/ gloriaemeagwali

Recipient of the 2014 Distinguished Research
Excellence Award, Univ. of Texas at Austin;
2019 Distinguished Africanist Award
New York African Studies Association

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From: usaafric...@googlegroups.com <usaafric...@googlegroups.com> on behalf of bfre...@gmail.com <bfre...@gmail.com>

Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 9:11 PM

To: usaafric...@googlegroups.com <usaafric...@googlegroups.com>

Subject: USA Africa Dialogue Series - Re-reading the Canon. Lecture 1: Philosophy, Racist Ideology & Liberatory Pedagogy. A reflection on Kant & the canon problem

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Dear All,

 

You are cordially invited to the first lecture in the series: Re-reading the Canon. New perspectives on ignored problems!

 

The first lecture will be delievered by the great Huaping Lu-Adler.

 

Please find all details below!

 

I hope to see you there!

 

All the best,

Bjoern

 

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[Cornelius Hamelberg]

You are somewhat reminiscent of Watson : The punchline to this prizewinning joke is an answer to your lengthy protestations about the relevance of the ethical Doctor Kant to e.g. Nigeria's epileptic supply of the much-needed electric current for industrialisation whilst in the meantime the stupid African's insistence on continuing to read by candlelight, moonlight, the light of the starry dynamo of heaven to further his late-night grounding on Kant's Categorical Imperative...

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

What Kant is saying was said, in a different way, by our ancestral cave men when we learned to think at the beginning of our human existence.

 

Circling the globe and penetrating the cosmos in thought,  from anywhere,  more a matter of who you are than where you are, enabling you to see Kant in the metropolis and the forest, including Lagos in  it's struggle between order and disorder, evoking the title of an essay of mine in which I celebrated a woman's glorious form, the magnificent bottom and it's over all body symmetry which the Black woman has been especially endowed with by nature, as this endowment was again revealed to me on a day in Lagos, symmetries I  confront daily, from Ikeja to Ketu, Sodipo to Ojota, Onigbongbo to Balogun, while I wonder "how do I reveal to the world these glories of the earth?"

                                                                                 

                                       

Pics and collage by myself showing Nigerian women in action at Professor Okeke-Ezigbo's memorial in Lagos on 25th June 2022

 

Carrying  out conversations among the stars, dialogues with masters of thought across space and time.

 

thanks

toyin

[Cornelius Hamelberg]

Very down to earth , the youngest daughter of the late Peter Tosh, doing some advocacy here :  https://toi.by/CwHNLP

I'd recommend uttermost caution  - just thinking of the merciless advertising... 

What do you intuit would be Kant's views on this matter if he were with us today? 

Where would he place " abortion rights" in his scheme of things according to notions of " Categorical Imperative"?

For balance, I'll be revisiting Thomas Nagel's " Mortal Questions"  , 42 years later...

[Harrow, Kenneth]

i really enjoyed your reflections, toyin. you conclude saying philosophy is about values, and how to make our lives fulfilled.

the perfect working of electricity might make it easier for someone to commit suicide, or to write a poem on a computer and send it out to the world, or write a reflection on the inspiration one might find in kant.

what gives life value?

i know, from his past reflections, our friend moses might have opined you can't get to the point of being able to enjoy reflections if your stomach is empty. your story on schimmel was really inspiring in the thought of getting past the hard times.
your story about the suicide on the bridge brings back camus's great novel La Chute, the fall, and the ethical obligations we have; or Badou Saved from Drowning, by Renoir. Or soyinka's Death in the Dawn, to which my thoughts often return...where we see ourselves in the face of the other.

If kant brings you to this point, more power to you. it isn't kant, here, so much, but what you make of kant. others might even say, despite kant. but all commentary is of this nature: we build on those who went before, and who inspired us.

your reflections will do the same, in turn. so nicely done

ken

kenneth harrow

professor emeritus

dept of english

michigan state university

517 803-8839

har...@msu.edu

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[Salimonu Kadiri]

​Your story about the Fraternity of Solace, a secular mission founded to help people overcome crisis - psychological, physical or spiritual is fantastic. I am mostly excited by your information that, "The mission was founded in the depths of escalating economic and security crisis in Nigeria. It operates through counselling and physical assistance to people in need." Thank you for your effort in persuading a doctor from jumping into the lagoon in Lagos to end his life. However, I am amused by your story that a doctor who was able to buy a car and employ a driver to whom he probably paid a minimum wage of N30,000 a month should have any reason to think of committing suicide because of what you termed depths of escalating economic and security crisis in Nigeria. Did the Doctor tell you why his life had collapsed and why he felt himself worthless despite being a doctor, owning a personal car and being able to employ a driver to drive him to places? How does counselling people help to curb the escalating economic and security crisis in Nigeria? If Pastor/Alhaji Kant's mission is to help people overcome economic and security crisis in Nigeria, what do Kant's missionaries live on, verses of Bible or Quran or some philosophical humbugs?

The greatest psycho-therapist in Yoruba history, my grandmother once told us her grandchildren, was ÒRÚNMÌLÀ, the IFÁ progenitor. She told us that when ÒRÚNMÌLÀ was at the town of ÌWÕ to marry, he was subjected to seven rigorous tests so as to determine his capability to be a husband and to maintain a wife. Despite the fact that ÒRÚNMÌLÀ endured the tests the last hurdle was the traditional tossing of four sectioned cola nut called OBÌ ÀBÀTÀ ALÁWÉ MERIN in Yoruba. To secure approval of the marriage with ÒRÚNMÌLÀ, two of the broken four sectioned cola nut must turn their face up while the other two should turn the face down. But when the broken four sectioned cola nut were tossed on the ground, each three turned the face up and one turned the face down, thus implying that ÒRÚMÌLÀ's marriage to the bride was not approved. ÒRÚMÌLÀ asked the attendants to close their eyes and before urging them to open their eyes again, he changed the positions of the broken and tossed four sectioned cola nut into two facing up and two facing down. When ÒRÚMÌLÀ was queried why he changed the positions of the tossed cola nuts he replied : Owó eni ni a fi ntún nkan ara eni sé, roughly meaning, you can change your fate with your own hands or to be more appropriate, your fate is your own hands. ÒRÚNMÌLÀ got his wife, euphemistically referred thenceforth to as ÌYÀ'WÕ, meaning the suffering in IWÕ. When it comes to the economic and industrial predicaments of Nigeria, I can relate to the philosophy of ÒRÚNMÌLÀ but not Kant because the fate of Nigeria is in hands of Nigerians.

S. Kadiri   

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[Cornelius Hamelberg]

On a more pleasant note O Adepoju, fellow human being , fellow connoisseur of dance music and the feminine mystique - this is all realised in the department of the sublime, known as aesthetics. Apparently all talk about the perennial fascination ( preoccupation?) namely big booty would have been lost on Mr. Kant , who is reported to have  spent the whole of his life as a virgin - had no practical experience , was probably confined to cerebral & ethical speculation about the live and direct….

Stephen Stills 

On Monday, 27 June 2022 at 11:52:52 UTC+2 ovdepoju wrote:

[Harrow, Kenneth]

salimonu, your story about your grandmother and the notion of having your fate in your hands is so well said. i really enjloyed it.  i don't need to know yoruba to get your point, and furthermore, you provided the translation t o facilitate my understanding.

how much translation do we need in life to be able to relate to each other? kant wrote in german, which i understand badly. i read him, and you, and adepoju in english.

we can talk to each other. if we want to.

i don't understand why i couldn't tell my american kids your wonderful account of your grandmother, or why you would want to exclude kant from your own corpus of knowledge. not everything about kant is great, but we build on thinkers from the past, whereever they come from, and make of their thoughts our own. we share our thoughts, we don't think only in isolation. and we can share the thoughts of chinese philosophers or anyone else. why not?

and then we can sit down and argue, and make life go on

ken

kenneth harrow

professor emeritus

dept of english

michigan state university

517 803-8839

har...@msu.edu

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

We'll put Ken.

Thanks

Toyin

[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Thanks, Salimonu, for appreciating my story and for your challengingly inspiring responses, invoking our friend Orunmila. Your responses provoke a number of issues, to which I respond in terms of the following outline:

1. Exploring the Meaning of Human Life in Material Well Being and Material Deprivation

2. Between the Universal and the Unique

3. The Figure of Orunmila and its Implications for Ifa Hermeneutics, Theory and Practise of Interpretation in Ifa, in  Resonance with Kantian Hermeneutics

       A.On Interpretive Scope in Ifa Studies

       B. Between Ideas of Divine and Human Intelligence

       C. The Vision of Ese Ifa

       D. Between Kant and Orunmila on Self Destination

Exploring the Meaning of Human Life in Material Well Being and Material Deprivation

New York, 2015. Things were going well and yet things were tough. A lot of money was coming in but James felt increasingly disconnected from his own life. All his material dreams had been fulfilled but something strategic and unexplainable was missing. Entangled in unresolved questions, he went for help to the Samaritans, a non-religious organisation yet based on Jesus' vision of charity to all humans.

They would not pray with him, since they were not a religious group, but the volunteers, available in shifts throughout the day, were willing to share one's worries and help one think things through, in an elegant though minimally furnitured room, its smallness emphasising a sense of intimate discourse.

The very fact of having someone to talk openly to, without fear, made a lot of difference. How many lives have been saved by the simple act of being able to open up to someone else, whose conversation would let light into  the otherwise darkened rooms of one's mind?

He was particularly assisted by a woman who, after earning a fortune in banking, enough to sustain her for life, after a career of almost 24/7 activity,  left to to return  to school to study her first love, art, which her Asian immigrant parents had earlier deflected her from in the name of economic security. She suggested he could examine his career motivations and other relationships to see why he was so unhappy.

Jide saw dark clouds enveloping his life. He was living the dream of many, a prosperous doctor, his own car, a prestigious SUV, a driver and a handsome income. But he could not make ends meet. Lagos rents were rising drastically and  the price of cement had also risen astronomically, stopping work on the house he was building to escape the rent trap. As he pondered how to pay back the loan he had taken to build the house, he got a call about his beloved sister. She had been killed in a terrorist attack on the Kaduna-Abuja train.

His world crashed. For a moment, the universe became empty, a black hole in which he was reduced to nothing. When he opened his eyes, the waters of the lagoon underneath the speeding car he was riding on Lagos' Third Mainland Bridge looked very enticing....

Living in Lagos, to which many were drawn by its scope of opportunities,  was made even more challenging for Isa by the constant rise in standards of living, in the midst of high rents and frenetic lifestyles even for those who had jobs.

Isa had come to Lagos from Southern Kaduna, fleeing the siege like existence of that place, the last straw being the combined attack through hordes of motor cycle riding,  AK47 holding Fulani invaders, supported by a helicopter gunship which scattered opposition to the ground troops as they killed and burnt people's homes for hours, in which help came from nowhere.

The state government later claimed the helicopter was its own means of helping those being assaulted. Commentators observed that this ''help'' did not result in the deaths or capture of any of the invaders, talk less  tracing them to their base. The victims silently concluded they had just suffered the opening of  another layer in the unfolding Fulani supremacists'  jihad in Nigeria.

Isa had found it impossible to sustain various jobs and wondered if bringing his life to an end would not be a wiser choice than prolonging it. He was pulled from the brink by people who urged him to take heart. Life is precious, they said, and while there is life, opportunities can emerge. He was eventually helped out of his crisis by someone who appreciated his readiness to work and recommended him to a friend who hired him to watch his gate, wash his car and do other small jobs around the house. From his earnings, Isa bought a wheelbarrow, vegetables and fruit and started a trade.

Three fictional stories. The first story, about James,  is based on the view that meaning is the most fundamental of human needs, even in the midst of material well being or material deprivation,  as developed in Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning. The story adapts a factual description of the Samaritans, a real, non-religious counselling organisation in England and the life story of a friend of mine who had been a banker and later became a student of art history, her first love.

The second story, about the doctor Jide, responds to Salimonu's  puzzle over why a prosperous doctor should kill himself over  ''depths of escalating economic and security crisis in Nigeria. Did the Doctor tell you why his life had collapsed and why he felt himself worthless despite being a doctor, owning a personal car and being able to employ a driver to drive him to places? ''

Another doctor explains the probable reasons why the Lagos doctor on whom this story is based, an expansion of another story in my previous post,  commited suicide.

The third story, about Isa, adapts Kant's ethical theory advocating relating to human beings in terms of the fundamental value of the interaction as a dialogue between human beings as ends in themselves, behavior one would wish to be a universal law in society,  rather than on account of what one may otherwise gain from the relationship. Its scenario recounts that facts of a recent attack by Fulani supremacist terrorists in Southern Kaduna and the response of the state government.

These stories respond to Salimonu's query about the value of counselling in Nigeria's economic and security crisis, and go beyond this  into a global context.

The narratives could be multiplied to include the multiple pressures suffered by those pushed into IDP camps by Fulani herdsmen militia in the Middle Belt, by Boko Haram in the North, those kidnapped, raped and brutalised by Fulani bandits and kidnappers across the nation, the families of those killed by Unknown Gunmen in the East, those struggling to feed themselves and their families across the country  as the cost of living rises dramatically with the continuance of the Buhari govt.

What could have motivated a Nigerian doctor, sufficiently  well off to afford a chauffeur,  to commit suicide? What could have moved Ernest Hemingway, US Nobel Prize winner for Literature, to have probably taken his own life? What could have driven Virginia Woolf, one of the greatest English novelists, to have ended her life? What could have propelled  particularly eminent Harvard scholar F. O. Mathiessen to have terminated his life? What could have led the great Cuban artist Belkis Alyon to hang herself?

All prominent figures in their fields, not like the Dutch-French artist Vincent van Gogh who had shot himself in the midst of a life of turmoil and poverty but whose paintings are now among the most iconic and expensive in the world, even used by an airline in advertising how much frequent flyers can save by using their airline, enough to buy a van Gogh.

There are various stories of people being talked back from the brink of suicide. Such interactions are likely to include something of the Kantian sensitivity to the incomparable glory of being, the infinite value of existing, in spite of  life's challenges, challenges framed by the ultimate challenge of the body's eventual dissolution to earth at a time unanticipated,  and the unknown fate of the consciousness that animated that body, challenges which inspire such a   pessimistic position as David Benatar's Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence, correlative with Emil Cioran's also provocatively titled The Trouble with Being Born.

Would the indwelling intelligence subsist after the body's often much regretted but inevitable  dissolution? Kant states, in Critique of Pure Reason, that  he is not a magician, and so can't presume, within the limited cognitive powers available to him as a human being, to have any definitive knowledge on the immortality of the soul, if such a phenomenon is possible.  

In the later Critique of Practical Reason, however, he embraces the idea of his consciousness escaping the decay of his body to earth, entering into infinity.

In aspiring to infinity, such a view aligns with the Yoruba expression, ''aiku pari iwa,'' ''deathlessness consummates existence,'' as discussed in Rowland Abiodun's Yoruba Art and Language:Seeking the African in African Art, an aspiration resonant across much of religious thought, and strategic for the belief many have in the value of existence. 

These ideas are consonant with Kant's relentless exploration of the meaning of life within the walls of ignorance that close off understanding of life's ultimate logic, if any exists. Ignorance even more excruciating in terms of the distance between understanding life's ultimate rationale and the embedding of this logic in the structure, dynamism and purpose of existence, to the degree that such an ultimate centre of values exists.

Between the Universal and the Unique

One of the limitations of our thinking is the belief that beceause something was said in the Amazon, or some other place remote from us, or in some distant time, it is likely to have little value for us.

What, really, are the fundamental differences between human needs, from the most basic to the ultimate horizons of the human spirit,  and the various solutions to those needs  reached across space and time, particularly in the realm of thought and social relationships as different from science and technology?

The Figure of Orunmila and its Implications for Ifa Hermeneutics, Theory and Practise of Interpretation in Ifa, in  Resonance with Kantian Hermeneutics

Could  you have made me happier than through your  invocation of our mutual friend Orunmila, whom you  was  privileged to learn about from your grandmother, while I, experiencing no direct exposure to those beauties, had to encounter that story in a volume of Cromwell Ibie's Ifism, upon which I rewrote  it  as "Themes in Ese Ifa, Ifa Literature : Courting Women 2 : The Exquisite Woman at Iwo?" 

That story, in the version in which you  told it, has serious implications for Ifa hermeneutics, theory and practice of interpretation in Ifa, literature of the Yoruba origin Ifa system of knowledge to which the story belongs,  implications that align powerfully with Kantian thought.

Is Orunmila, particularly as depicted in ese ifa, Ifa literature, a fictional or a historical character? What were the intentions, along such lines, of the first tellers of those stories? 

Given the vast range of ese ifa, its structural and content variety within a basic unifying format across poetry and prose narratives and more lyrical expressions, spanning different periods in Yoruba history, with one even making a case for the birth of Jesus in Yorubaland, his name henceforth being a mispronunciation of his original Yoruba name, Jewesu, as the story goes, what is the scope of attitudes to the truth value of ese ifa and what is the relative significance of these possibly diverse perspectives? 

Can the various exploits of Orunmila in these stories be accounts of the life of  the same historical individual  or is Orunmila functioning as an imaginative frame for various fictional characters? 

Was Orunmila an actual person at any point in time?

       On Interpretive Scope in Ifa Studies

Given these questions, what is the interpretive range of ese ifa in various contexts, from divinatory praxis to literary analysis outside divinatory frameworks, in the varied global social contexts of engagement with Ifa, from Africa to the Americas and beyond, approaches to which questions Noel Amherd's Reciting Ifa and Akinwumi Ogundiran's The Yoruba: A New History present approaches?

     Between Ideas of Divine and Human Intelligence

What is the nexus of  the supposed divine intelligence of the Ifa oracle, that being the rationale for depending on it in the first place, and the intelligence of the person seeking a response from the supernatural intelligence?

Does Orunmila, in this story,  represent the understanding of his identity as an embodiment of divine wisdom, who perhaps may legitimately shape oracular responses as he wills, since the wisdom of the oracle and himself are identical or does he represent the human babalawo, adept in the esoteric knowledge of Ifa,  trying to learn from Ifa?

If the latter is true, does it suggest freedom on the part of the babalawo to manipulate oracular prescriptions as he sees fit? What may that say for the integrity of the oracle?

What is the relationship between such questions and the need to reinterpret oracular prescriptions that do not align with contemporary social reality, such as being asked by the oracle to take another wife or to sacrifice an animal, activities with grave legal implications  in such a diaspora Ifa centre as the US, a very different context from old Yorubaland in which the oracular system was created, a question addressed by African-American female babalawo Ayele Kumari in ''Navigating Odu Ifa as an African/Atlantic Diaspora Woman?'' 

        The Vision of Ese Ifa

The kind of self help projected in that story  of Orunmila is typical of the genius of Yoruba spirituality, particularly as expressed in ese ifa. The story dramatises an imaginative universe defined more by  the circumstantial and the relative  than by the absolute. It depicts the jocoserious, adapting James Joyce from another context, the combination of fun, comedy and the serious, rather than seamless gravitas, as shaping  that artistic cosmos.

      Between Kant and Orunmila on Self Destination

The self help philosophy of Orunmila in that story, the decision to reconstruct seemingly sacred mandates in terms of one's own wisdom, is perfectly in alignment with the vision of the man from Konigsberg, who emphasised human intelligence over dogma, who insisted on the sacred as integral to humanity and the cosmos rather than something over and above the material universe to which the human being submits, and the sacred itself as open to questioning by the human being.

Such questioning grows within intense sensitivity to the hunger for the sacred, dramatised through the underlying rhythms of Kant's own cognitive grapplings. From this struggle and its related meditations,  the sacred  emerges through his own secular vocabulary in the dialogue between the mind, itself and nature.

This agonistic relationship between the sacred and the secular is one of Kant's greatest strengths  as a philosopher, dramatising underlying streams of the human condition, what makes us homo sapiens, the thinking one whose perception exceeds his grasp, a chasm within which much of human creativity emerges, particularly in spirituality, philosophy and the arts.

How may such a perspective relate to the spirit of ese ifa? Relatable orientations are evoked by the hilarity of ese ifa composers in the face of divine presence, suggesting a balance of freedom from the sacred  and dependence on it, a mutuality in which neither the human being or the spiritual Other enjoys dominance, a world in which human creativity and ultimate direction is assured more by one's individuality, one's unique participation in cosmic process, than by dependence on deities, valuable as that may be.

''No orisa or deity can bless one without the consent of one's ori, one's immortal embodiment of ultimate potential'' it is said.

''If the deity does not like the house we have built for him, he should feel free to take a cutlass and go into the forest to cut wood and palm fronds to build a more befitting home'', as quoted in Abosede Emmanuel's Odun Ifa, Ifa Festival.

''Walking stick that crosses the road in a crooked manner consulted Ifa for the rabbit, whose wife was going to have children, upon which he was told to be silent about the good news but he went to the road side and chatterred his  news to passing humans, who then followed him home, upon which he and his entire family subsequently  followed soup off to its destination,'' as narrated in Wande Abimbola's Ifa Divination Poetry.

What could be the implications of these attitudes correlating the German philosopher and the Yoruba thinkers? Perhaps encouraging a keen, even deep sensitivity to spirituality but in a critical and yet relaxed spirit, a spirit of fun and analysis, devoid of absolutes.

thanks

toyin

 

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Edited

Thanks, Salimonu, for appreciating my story and for your challengingly inspiring responses, invoking our friend Orunmila. Your responses provoke a number of issues, to which I respond in terms of the following outline:

1. Exploring the Meaning of Human Life in Material Well Being and Material Deprivation

2. Between the Universal and the Unique

3. The Figure of Orunmila and its Implications for Ifa Hermeneutics, Theory and Practise of Interpretation in Ifa, in  Resonance with Kantian Hermeneutics

       A.On Interpretive Scope in Ifa Studies

       B. Between Ideas of Divine and Human Intelligence

       C. The Vision of Ese Ifa

       D. Between Kant and Orunmila on Self Destination

Exploring the Meaning of Human Life in Material Well Being and Material Deprivation

New York, 2015. Things were going well and yet things were tough. A lot of money was coming in but James felt increasingly disconnected from his own life. All his material dreams had been fulfilled but something strategic and unexplainable was missing. Entangled in unresolved questions, he went for help to the Samaritans, a non-religious organisation yet based on Jesus' vision of charity to all humans.

They would not pray with him, since they were not a religious group, but the volunteers, available in shifts throughout the day, were willing to share one's worries and help one think things through, in an elegant though minimally furnitured room, its smallness emphasising a sense of intimate discourse.

The very fact of having someone to talk openly to, without fear, made a lot of difference. How many lives have been saved by the simple act of being able to open up to someone else, whose conversation would let light into  the otherwise darkened rooms of one's mind?

He was particularly assisted by a woman who, after earning a fortune in banking, enough to sustain her for life, after a career of almost 24/7 activity,  left to to return  to school to study her first love, art, which her Asian immigrant parents had earlier deflected her from in the name of economic security. She suggested he could examine his career motivations and other relationships to see why he was so unhappy.

Jide saw dark clouds enveloping his life. He was living the dream of many, a prosperous doctor, his own car, a prestigious SUV, a driver and a handsome income. But he could not make ends meet. Lagos rents were rising drastically and  the price of cement had also risen astronomically, stopping work on the house he was building to escape the rent trap. As he pondered how to pay back the loan he had taken to build the house, he got a call about his beloved sister. She had been killed in a terrorist attack on the Kaduna-Abuja train.

His world crashed. For a moment, the universe became empty, a black hole in which he was reduced to nothing. When he opened his eyes, the waters of the lagoon underneath the speeding car he was riding on Lagos' Third Mainland Bridge looked very enticing....

Living in Lagos, to which many were drawn by its scope of opportunities,  was made even more challenging for Isa by the constant rise in standards of living, 

in the midst of high rents and frenetic lifestyles even for those who had jobs.

Isa had come to Lagos from Southern Kaduna, fleeing the siege like existence of that place, the last straw being the combined attack through hordes of motorcycle riding,  AK47 holding Fulani invaders, supported by a helicopter gunship which scattered opposition to the ground troops as they killed and burnt people's homes for hours, in which help came from nowhere.

The state government later claimed the helicopter was its own means of helping those being assaulted. Commentators observed that this ''help'' did not result in the deaths or capture of any of the invaders, talk less  tracing them to their base. The victims silently concluded they had just suffered the opening of  another layer in the unfolding Fulani supremacists'  jihad in Nigeria.

Isa had found it impossible to sustain various jobs and wondered if bringing his life to an end would not be a wiser choice than prolonging it. He was pulled from the brink by people who urged him to take heart. Life is precious, they said, and while there is life, opportunities can emerge. He was eventually helped out of his crisis by someone who appreciated his readiness to work and recommended him to a friend who hired him to watch his gate, wash his car and do other small jobs around the house. From his earnings, Isa bought a wheelbarrow, vegetables and fruit and started a trade.

Three fictional stories. The first story, about James,  is based on the view that meaning is the most fundamental of human needs, even in the midst of material well being or material deprivation,  as developed in Viktor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning. The story adapts a factual description of the Samaritans, a real, non-religious counselling organisation in England and the life story of a friend of mine who had been a banker and later became a student of art history, her first love.

The second story, about the doctor Jide, responds to Salimonu's  puzzle over why a prosperous doctor should kill himself over  ''depths of escalating economic and security crisis in Nigeria. Did the Doctor tell you why his life had collapsed and why he felt himself worthless despite being a doctor, owning a personal car and being able to employ a driver to drive him to places? '' The story adapts the historical account on an attack this year on the Kaduna-Abuja train in which a female professional, perhaps a doctor, was killed in particularly moving circumstances. 

Another doctor explains the probable reasons why the Lagos doctor on whom this story is based, an expansion of another story in my previous post,  commited suicide.

The third story, about Isa, adapts Kant's ethical theory advocating relating to human beings in terms of the fundamental value of the interaction as a dialogue between human beings as ends in themselves, behavior one would wish to be a universal law in society,  rather than on account of what one may otherwise gain from the relationship. Its scenario recounts that facts of a recent attack by Fulani supremacist terrorists in Southern Kaduna and the response of the state government.

These stories respond to Salimonu's query about the value of counselling in Nigeria's economic and security crisis, and go beyond this  into a global context.

The narratives could be multiplied to include the multiple pressures suffered by those pushed into IDP camps by Fulani herdsmen militia in the Middle Belt, by Boko Haram in the North, those kidnapped, raped and brutalised by Fulani bandits and kidnappers across the nation, the families of those killed by Unknown Gunmen in the East, those struggling to feed themselves and their families across the country  as the cost of living rises dramatically with the continuance of the Buhari govt.

What could have motivated a Nigerian doctor, sufficiently  well off to afford a chauffeur,  to commit suicide? What could have moved Ernest Hemingway, US Nobel Prize winner for Literature, to have probably taken his own life? What could have driven Virginia Woolf, one of the greatest English novelists, to have ended her life? What could have propelled  particularly eminent Harvard scholar F. O. Mathiessen to have terminated his life? What could have led the great Cuban artist Belkis Alyon to hang herself?

All prominent figures in their fields, not like the Dutch-French artist Vincent van Gogh who had shot himself in the midst of a life of turmoil and poverty but whose paintings are now among the most iconic and expensive in the world, even used by an airline in advertising how much frequent flyers can save by using their airline, enough to buy a van Gogh.

There are various stories of people being talked back from the brink of suicide. Such interactions are likely to include something of the Kantian sensitivity to the incomparable glory of being, the infinite value of existing, in spite of  life's challenges, challenges framed by the ultimate challenge of the body's eventual dissolution to earth at a time unanticipated,  and the unknown fate of the consciousness that animated that body, challenges which inspire such a   pessimistic position as David Benatar's Better Never to Have Been: The Harm of Coming into Existence, correlative with Emil Cioran's also provocatively titled The Trouble with Being Born.

Would the indwelling intelligence subsist after the body's often much regretted but inevitable  dissolution? Kant states, in Critique of Pure Reason, that  he is not a magician, and so can't presume, within the limited cognitive powers available to him as a human being, to have any definitive knowledge on the immortality of the soul, if such a phenomenon is possible.  

In the later Critique of Practical Reason, however, he embraces the idea of his consciousness escaping the decay of his body to earth, entering into infinity.

In aspiring to infinity, such a view aligns with the Yoruba expression, ''aiku pari iwa,'' ''deathlessness consummates existence,'' as discussed in Rowland Abiodun's Yoruba Art and Language:Seeking the African in African Art, an aspiration resonant across much of religious thought, and strategic for the belief many have in the value of existence. 

These ideas are consonant with Kant's relentless exploration of the meaning of life within the walls of ignorance that close off understanding of life's ultimate logic, if any exists. Ignorance even more excruciating in terms of the distance between understanding life's ultimate rationale and the embedding of this logic in the structure, dynamism and purpose of existence, to the degree that such an ultimate centre of values exists.

Between the Universal and the Unique

One of the limitations of our thinking is the belief that beceause something was said in the Amazon, or some other place remote from us, or in some distant time, it is likely to have little value for us.

What, really, are the fundamental differences between human needs, from the most basic to the ultimate horizons of the human spirit,  and the various solutions to those needs  reached across space and time, particularly in the realm of thought and social relationships as different from science and technology?

The Figure of Orunmila and its Implications for Ifa Hermeneutics, Theory and Practise of Interpretation in Ifa, in  Resonance with Kantian Hermeneutics

Could  you have made me happier than through your  invocation of our mutual friend Orunmila, whom you  were  privileged to learn about from your grandmother, while I, experiencing no direct exposure to those beauties, had to encounter that story in a volume of Cromwell Ibie's Ifism, upon which I rewrote  it  as "Themes in Ese Ifa, Ifa Literature : Courting Women 2 : The Exquisite Woman at Iwo?" 

That story, in the version in which you  told it, has serious implications for Ifa hermeneutics, theory and practice of interpretation in Ifa, literature of the Yoruba origin Ifa system of knowledge to which the story belongs,  implications that align powerfully with Kantian thought.

Is Orunmila, particularly as depicted in ese ifa, Ifa literature, a fictional or a historical character? What were the intentions, along such lines, of the first tellers of those stories? 

Given the vast range of ese ifa, its structural and content variety within a basic unifying format across poetry and prose narratives and more lyrical expressions, spanning different periods in Yoruba history, with one even making a case for the birth of Jesus in Yorubaland, his name henceforth being a mispronunciation of his original Yoruba name, Jewesu, as the story goes, what is the scope of attitudes to the truth value of ese ifa and what is the relative significance of these possibly diverse perspectives? 

Can the various exploits of Orunmila in those stories be accounts of the life of  the same historical individual  or is Orunmila functioning as an imaginative frame for various fictional characters? 

Was Orunmila an actual person at any point in time?

       On Interpretive Scope in Ifa Studies

Given these questions, what is the interpretive range of ese ifa in various contexts, from divinatory praxis to literary analysis outside divinatory frameworks, in the varied global social contexts of engagement with Ifa, from Africa to the Americas and beyond, approaches to which questions Noel Amherd's Reciting Ifa and Akinwumi Ogundiran's The Yoruba: A New History present approaches?

     Between Ideas of Divine and Human Intelligence

What is the nexus of  the supposed divine intelligence of the Ifa oracle, that being the rationale for depending on it in the first place, and the intelligence of the person seeking a response from the supernatural intelligence?

Does Orunmila, in this story,  represent the understanding of his identity as an embodiment of divine wisdom, who perhaps may legitimately shape oracular responses as he wills, since the wisdom of the oracle and himself are identical or does he represent the human babalawo, adept in the esoteric knowledge of Ifa,  trying to learn from Ifa?

If the latter is true, does it suggest freedom on the part of the babalawo to manipulate oracular prescriptions as he sees fit? What may that say for the integrity of the oracle?

What is the relationship between such questions and the need to reinterpret oracular prescriptions that do not align with contemporary social reality, such as being asked by the oracle to take another wife or to sacrifice an animal, activities with grave legal implications  in such a diaspora Ifa centre as the US, a very different context from old Yorubaland in which the oracular system was created, a question addressed by African-American female babalawo Ayele Kumari in ''Navigating Odu Ifa as an African/Atlantic Diaspora Woman?'' 

        The Vision of Ese Ifa

The kind of self help projected in that story  of Orunmila is typical of the genius of Yoruba spirituality, particularly as expressed in ese ifa. The story dramatises an imaginative universe defined more by  the circumstantial and the relative  than by the absolute. It depicts the jocoserious, adapting James Joyce from another context, the combination of fun, comedy and the serious, rather than seamless gravitas, as shaping  that artistic cosmos.

      Between Kant and Orunmila on Self Destination

The self help philosophy of Orunmila in that story, the decision to reconstruct seemingly sacred mandates in terms of one's own wisdom, is perfectly in alignment with the vision of the man from Konigsberg, who emphasised human intelligence over dogma, who insisted on the sacred as integral to humanity and the cosmos rather than as something over and above the material universe to which the human being submits, and the sacred itself as open to questioning by the human being.

Such questioning grows within intense sensitivity to the hunger for the sacred, dramatised through the underlying rhythms of Kant's own cognitive grapplings. From this struggle and its related meditations,  the sacred  emerges through his own secular vocabulary in the dialogue between the mind, itself and nature.

This agonistic relationship between the sacred and the secular is one of Kant's greatest strengths  as a philosopher, dramatising underlying streams of the human condition, what makes us homo sapiens, the thinking one whose perception exceeds his grasp, a chasm within which much of human creativity emerges, particularly in spirituality, philosophy and the arts.

How may such a perspective relate to the spirit of ese ifa? Relatable orientations are evoked by the hilarity of ese ifa composers in the face of divine presence, suggesting a balance of freedom from the sacred  and dependence on it, a mutuality in which neither the human being or the spiritual Other enjoys dominance, a world in which human creativity and ultimate direction is assured more by one's individuality, one's unique participation in cosmic process, than by dependence on deities, valuable as that may be.

''No orisa or deity can bless one without the consent of one's ori, one's immortal embodiment of ultimate potential'' it is said.

''If the deity does not like the house we have built for him, he should feel free to take a cutlass and go into the forest to cut wood and palm fronds to build a more befitting home'', as quoted in Abosede Emmanuel's Odun Ifa, Ifa Festival.

''Walking stick that crosses the road in a crooked manner consulted Ifa for the rabbit, whose wife was going to have children, upon which he was told to be silent about the good news but he went to the road side and chatterred his  news to passing humans, who then followed him home, upon which he and his entire family subsequently  followed soup off to its destination,'' as narrated in Wande Abimbola's Ifa Divination Poetry.

What could be the implications of these attitudes correlating the German philosopher and the Yoruba thinkers? Perhaps encouraging a keen, even deep sensitivity to spirituality but in a critical and yet relaxed spirit, a spirit of fun and analysis, devoid of absolutes.

thanks

toyin

[Harrow, Kenneth]

this is a wonderful reflection, toyin, really. many thanks.

in much rabbinic jewish thought, the same relationship with god and the human obtains as you described below.

This agonistic relationship between the sacred and the secular is one of Kant's greatest strengths  as a philosopher, dramatising underlying streams of the human condition, what makes us homo sapiens, the thinking one whose perception exceeds his grasp, a chasm within which much of human creativity emerges, particularly in spirituality, philosophy and the arts.

How may such a perspective relate to the spirit of ese ifa? Relatable orientations are evoked by the hilarity of ese ifa composers in the face of divine presence, suggesting a balance of freedom from the sacred  and dependence on it, a mutuality in which neither the human being or the spiritual Other enjoys dominance, a world in which human creativity and ultimate direction is assured more by one's individuality, one's unique participation in cosmic process, than by dependence on deities, valuable as that may be.

ken

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Very great thanks, Ken.

I'm honoured.

Can you suggest any Jewish texts that demonstrate such a spirit?

Toyin

[Harrow, Kenneth]

more of same from a friend:

ken,

It sounds like you are thinking about the Talmudic story of the rabbis telling God to mind his own business. The most famous tale is that of the Oven of Achnai, Baba Metzia 59. But you are correct that these sorts of things do pop up (I'm not sure if "often" is the right term of art) throughout Jewish history. The opening monologue of Tevye in Fiddler is a great modern example. Here's the YouTube of the great Zero Mostel performing it, which your friend can probably watch (not sure of the country restrictions in YouTube):

Prologue/Tradition:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DqDbpQxvCDs

If I Were a Rich Man:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbJEpcteKg4&list=RDnbJEpcteKg4&start_radio=1

Hope this helps, and even if not, Enjoy

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while we wait for my friends to answer, here's a funny link to give you the gist of the matter:

https://www.myjewishlearning.com/article/god-humor/

God and Jewish Humor | My Jewish Learning Pronounced: khah-SID-ik, Origin: Hebrew, a stream within ultra-Orthodox Judaism that grew out of an 18th-century mystical revival movement. www.myjewishlearning.com

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it's a common knowledge among jewish congregations that the rabbinic period was one in which this kind of playful jesting with god goes on, at least in the folk level and in talmudic stories. it's not my field, but i can ask a few friends for suggested texts.

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[Oluwatoyin Adepoju]

Very great thanks Ken.

Deeply honoured by your rich guides to this intriguing field.

Thanks

Toyin