Utah Reclamation Meeting In SLC-Frisco, Newhouse, Gold Hill and more...

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Corey Shuman

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Jun 5, 2006, 5:43:31 PM6/5/06
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*URGENT!!*
*Gold Rush Expeditions Supporters,*

I just received this notice of an intended meeting to discuss the
reclamation programs that are to be implemented. This includes Gold
Hill, Frisco, Newhouse and a lot of other popular, historic sites. Make
no mistake, they mean to close the areas as fast and as quietly as
possible. This meeting will go over why the mines are so dangerous and
there will be a good bit of propaganda about how every mine in the
state will closed soon. This has already happened in Nevada, please do
not let Utah's history be destroyed.
---IF YOU VALUE THESE GHOST TOWNS AND MINES AND THE ROADS THAT LEAD TO
THEM, MAKE SURE YOU ARE IN ATTENDANCE!!--

Really, all you have to do to make a difference is show up!! A showing
of numbers will help to prevent this from happening!!

Mark your calenders, Tuesday, June 20th at 7:00pm. Meeting to be held
in the OGM (Oil Gas and Mining) offices:
1594 West North Temple, Suite 1210
Salt Lake City, Utah 84116*

If you have any thoughts, comments or would like to discuss the OGM
initiatives prior to the meeting, Please do not hesitate to contact me
via email (csh...@goldrushexpeditions.com) or phone (801-647-3299).

Please forward this to anyone you think would be interested in
supporting Gold Rush Expeditions in this effort. For more information,
please visit http://www.goldrushexpeditions.com or our forum at:
http://p3.forumforfree.com/goldrush.html


Your attendance and support is appreciated.
Sincerely,

Corey T. Shuman

csh...@goldrushexpeditions.com
_______________________________________________________________

gold rush expeditions inc.
Chief Executive Officer
www.goldrushexpeditions.com


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Public meeting in SLC
Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 11:08:37 -0600
From: Chris Rohrer <chris...@utah.gov>
To: <csh...@goldrushexpeditions.com>

Corey,

The AMRP is trying to schedule a public meeting in Salt Lake that would
cover all of our proposed projects. The focus would be on
accommodating
cultural resources while protecting public safety. We will have an
archaeologist on hand with public and private sector experience who
understands the legal context (NHPA Section 106, etc.). This would
give
you an opportunity to discuss some of the ideas you have been bouncing
around. Since GRE and UGTMPG comprise much of the likely audience, we
wanted to make sure you and others in the group are able to attend.

We are looking at Tuesday, June 20, in the evening (7:00), here at our
office. We've got several people juggling calendars; the next
available
date would not be until sometime in July. Please let us know if this
date works for you ASAP. Thanks.

Also, please remember that we have an open door. You can contact us
any time with questions about a project.


==============================

J. Chris Rohrer
Senior Reclamation Specialist
Abandoned Mine Reclamation Program

Utah Division of Oil, Gas & Mining
1594 West North Temple, Suite 1210
P.O. Box 145801
Salt Lake City, UT 84114-5801
(801) 538-5322
(801) 359-3940 fax
chris...@utah.gov

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Lawyer Russ

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Jun 8, 2006, 12:01:37 PM6/8/06
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As an added incentive to get everyone who can go, TO GO, I will bring
with me a FREE DVDROM for any member of this preservation group which
will include publications, reports, documents and weblinks to a
mountain of information on AMR programs, history of these areas,
preservation handbooks and overviews and geological reports and other
public domain documents and information, all in adobe acrobat .pdf file
format. Tentatively entitled a Mine Preservation Activist's toolbox, to
make sure I press enough, please just email me at
russh...@lawyer.com with your name and whether you prefer the "MPAT"
on CDROM or DVDROM. I will be happy to press as many disks as there
will be people there. I am still compiling and scanning some of this
material, and the biggest problem will be fitting it all on ONE DVD!

outfitter

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Jun 20, 2006, 1:36:31 AM6/20/06
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Email sent!!!

I have commitment tomorrow ~6, but I will try and make it ASAP to the
meeting... Thanks for the offer Russ, and thanks for the heads up Corey!

Ghosttown Bob

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Jun 20, 2006, 1:07:32 PM6/20/06
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I have been planning on coming to the meeting and showing my support
for keeping these areas open, but have found out this morning that I
have to work. Corey, let these people know that they do not have my
support to make these closures. I consider it a violation of the
antiquities and historic preservation acts, and that I think their
tampering is tantamount to vandelism, and that they are no better than
pot hunters. Maybe if they think these places are so dangerous, they
should also destroy many of the Ansaszi ruins in Southern Utah since
you have to climb up cliffs, etc. to get to them - - and that is
dangerous!

Corey: Send us a report

Bob Goodwin

Lawyer Russ

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Jun 21, 2006, 2:12:36 PM6/21/06
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outfitter wrote:
> I have commitment tomorrow ~6, but I will try and make it ASAP to the
> meeting... Thanks for the offer Russ, and thanks for the heads up Corey!

Outfitter: I have your DVD, also will provide anyone else a copy at no
cost. I attended the meeting with my son, but had to leave before it
ended and did not get a chance to pick up business cards of the AML
people there. It sounds like the AML people are going to go forward
with the closures, fearing liability if they do not. The irony is that
by identifying openings as hazards and publicizing how dangerous mine
shafts are, they have started something they cannot stop. By their own
admission, they have police power to seal voids and tunnels so if for
example, they leave one hazard open at Gold Hill or any other announced
project site, if someone later comes along and falls and inures
themselves, a lawsuit could easily ensue, against THEM. They could at
present get sued if the closure is faulty. Better for them to have
signed and warned of the danger than to attempt a closure that may fall
short. Liability is a bear, and their actions now will bring taxpaying
citizens into the arena as co-defendants. I appreciate their efforts to
understand alternate views and opinions on what they are doing.
However, it seems the time has come to involve the SHPO (State Historic
Preservation Officer), the Governor's Office (he is responsible for
"requesting" the Secretary of Interior to abate mine openings he finds
adversely affects public safety) and concerned citizens who may wish to
invoke a Section 106 review of actions like those contemplated by the
AML program. The Antiquities Act, celebrating its 100th anniversary
this year, may also apply to monitor AML closures. Lastly, I want to
disagree with the consultant who said historical values and information
only exist ABOVE ground. That attitude is an opinion, and not based in
fact. Mine openings allow access to geologic information and mineral
values that should be documented before an opening is sealed. the Utah
Geological Survey should be sampling these adits and shafts before
sealing. If historically significant, mine openings should not be
backfilled and reclaimed.

Derrat

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Jun 27, 2006, 5:12:08 PM6/27/06
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Hi Russ,

Could you get me a copy of that CD? I'm new to this realm and it
sounds like it would teach me quite a bit.

Please let me know.

Thanks,
Carilyn

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