Is the weir coefficient really unitless?

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Doug Trieste

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Dec 30, 2009, 10:47:49 AM12/30/09
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I was wondering if someone can provide me with a logical answer to the following associated with weir coefficients?  Here is my problem.

  • The weir equation is Q = Cw x L x H^1.5, where Q is flow over a weir in cubic feet per second, Cw is suppose to be unitless, L is in feet, and H is in feet (of course SI units are also applicable). 
  • Taking the units associated with L x H^1.5, we get (feet) x (feet)^1.5 = (feet)^2.5
  • If Q has the units of cubic feet per second, doesn't this indicate that Cw is NOT unitless?   Instead, it appears that there are units associated with Cw, which are (feet)^0.5 per second.   Otherwise, it is not feasible to get Q in cubic feet per second.

I, like many others in the profession, have always assumed that Cw is unitless.   However, I am wondering if there really are units associated with Cw.  

Any comments and supporting documentation will be greatly appreciated.

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Chandan Das

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:03:36 AM12/30/09
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Jerald,

 

You are right. Cw is not unitless but has a coefficient of ft^0.5/sec. For a trapezoidal weir (Cipoletti weir) for example Cw is approximately equal to 1.86 in SI units and 3.367 in U.S. units. I normally use the CRM (Civil Engineering Reference Manual) by Lindeburg (Eleventh Edition). See Page 19-13. Hope that helps.

 

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Bill Ruzzo

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Dec 30, 2009, 11:05:08 AM12/30/09
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You probably can also find your answer in King & Brater “Handbook of Hydraulics” (McGraw Hill 1963) which is one of the earliest an often cited reference for weirs.

 


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I was wondering if someone can provide me with a logical answer to the following associated with weir coefficients?  Here is my problem.

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