Ethnologist, historian Lev Gumilev: Turks in the future will remain catalysts in historical processes

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Lev Gumilev : «Turks in the future will remain catalysts in historical processes

12.03.2015 в 19:12 | Culture
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 Information Analysis Portal gumilev-center.ru pereopublikoval interview with a great scientist , ethnologist , ethnographer , geographer and historian Lev Gumilev . Taking into account the high degree of public interest in the personality Gumilev present to the readers of this material without modification.

There are people striking fate. Just do not say — or tragic , ultimately , happy .

Leo GUMILEV — people such poignant fate. His father — a famous poet Nikolai Gumilev was shot by security officers allegedly as a member of the counter-revolutionary conspiracy. Mother — Anna Akhmatova … Sam Lev Gumilev went through all millstones Gulag , but survived . Became a historian of world size .

At historian Gumilev two vertices . First — this is the famous book » The Old Turks ,» which he started writing in the 35th year. And he continued to work on her in the camps — in mind, chapter by chapter , honing the style of this very clever book. She Gumilev gave thirty years of his life .

Turkic does not know and probably for a long time will not know such a seminal work . Surprising that the language of this weighty monograph is so clear , poetic, that envied poets . That’s at least the name of the individual chapters : » The descendants of the wolf «, » Behind the Scenes «, » Wedge hammered «, » Humiliation Khans ,» » Heart of Power» , «The Power of Mercy ,» » Ten Arrows «, » appeasement » ….

The second peak, and also global — » Ethnogenesis and the Biosphere .» I do not know what can be compared to this book. Explosive power it can probably be compared only with the » theory of relativity » Albert Einstein .

However, the story — not physics . Historians are not immediately adopted the book. Gumilev herb known domestic academics and professors . And to Yakutia dokatyvayutsya shafts baiting . Dokatyvayutsya but glohli because Yakut ethnographers were brought from Leningrad who were very closely associated with them. A staunchly Leningrad , though silently , defended Gumilev.

August Muran (Ivan Efimov ) — a student of the University of Leningrad . Not so long ago in the Yakut Publishers released his first collection of poems — » In the alleys of destiny.»

Interview with Gumilev Mourao his unexpected candor and many seem unusual . But it is an honest conversation . Lev Gumilev always told the truth , never adapts to market conditions . Now , at the time of glasnost , it is possible the publication of her without any cuts. Another thing — the readers will agree with his ruthless assessments and conclusions . But pluralism — the difference of opinions. So let us learn to listen to something else , does not fit in our hardened from the submission .

Ivan Nikolaev

August Muran : Leo , in Yakutia well known for your book » Ancient Turks «, » Hun «, «Discovery of the Khazars «, » Ethnogenesis and the Biosphere .» Newly number number 3, 4 «Neva» in 1988 , I read your article » Apocryphal dialogue » — about the Mongol invasion .

L.Gumilev : Was the invasion ? Detachment of 30,000 riders passed through Ryazan and left.

AM : And how could 30,000 soldiers to conquer Russia  LG : Can . In Russia was half a million volunteers and 100,000 professional soldiers. This data Kargalova ( VV Kargali Mongol-Tatar invasion of Russia . — M.: Education , 1966 . W creators of the site) . I believe that the Russian principalities went voluntarily to the Golden Horde . And why — I already wrote.

Last passionate push in the XIX century has passed through Japan , Korea, southern China , Burma and reached South Africa. After 100 years, these nations have been very energetic. Passionarnost — a sign that occurs when a mutation in the hard irradiation of near space . A story just captures war migration of peoples , customs, culture ups , which is nothing but a passionate impulse

As the analysis of vast historical material , these shocks are associated with the emergence of social groups passionary people with sharply inflated level of ambitious claims. They » electrostatically charged » huge masses of people, and then place the «miracles» . Thus was created the Roman Empire , the Arab Caliphate , the Ottoman empire , the Russian empire .

If you explain it on a global scale , then, as I have said, there is a rise of biochemical energy , which Vernadsky wrote , in Earth’s biosphere . Darwin’s theory here , no longer works . It employs modern theory of mutagenesis. Around the Earth , there are 6 containments , sometimes the sun’s rays make their way through them and reach the Earth . It affects people , ethnic groups .

But in the sphere of social life has been in the law of succession of formations Marx. However, a person becomes a social object , and not just being born . His birth , appearance , ethnogenesis — it is a biological phenomenon . Later comes the dissipation power dissipation ethnicity . I approached this level population and Belgian biophysicist , Nobel laureate Ilya Prigogine — at the molecular level .

If we talk about the shape of ethnic movements , it does not progress as thought in Europe, and oscillatory movement (oscillation ) in the image of a damped vibrating string.

AM : And what could you say more about modern Yakuts ?

LG : Modern Yakuts — mixed . On culture — it Yakuts — Kurykans . But genetic charge , ethnic filling — they are different. This is a natural process . Here is another ethnopsychology ( national character ) .

AM : What is the nature of the Yakut ?

LG : Character depends on the phase of ethnogenesis. It changes . Young people are very energetic , old — inert . New blood rejuvenates old ethnic groups . My wife’s niece Margarita Ivanovna Novgorodova half Yakut . She — Doctor of Geological Sciences , a leading specialist ( doctor of geological — mineralogical sciences, professor , now director of the Mineralogical Museum Fersman RAS C Ed.) , Lives in Moscow. She is very active, energetic , passionate people.

I know that a lot of people came Yakutia on diamond and gold mines . This is not always the best representatives of the Russian people. Such emigration — is already the result of passionate recession.

AM : What creates love and enmity between peoples ?

LG rhythm biofield give symphony ( «likes» ) or kakafoniya «does not like «). Cats and dogs also belong to different people in different ways. This property is called komplimentarnostyu.Kogda something Tunguses disliked Yakuts , and they prefer Russian , bringing them in Yakutia in the XVII century . With those Russian Yakuts found a common language . And they themselves were Russian Yakuts .

AM : They Yakut called » basynay » and other Russian aliens » nuuchcha .»

LG : So you see , this is a consequence of my ideas : those Russian Yakuts found a common language . And they themselves were Russian Yakuts .

AM : They Yakut called » basynay » and other Russian aliens — » nuuchcha .»

LG : So you see , this is a consequence of my ideas. The same Russian who came just came off from its landscape , they live in a different anthropogenic landscape , it affects their psyche , their aura, so they subconsciously be aggressive , prone to psychological disorders.

AM : Leo , in the first half of the 80 — ies of the century in Russia were very strong antiaziatskie mood. What was the cause of their appearance ? Whom they were profitable ?

 

LG : First, it is caused by ignorance of the common people , who did not know that Russian , half- Asians themselves . Now not interested in history , and if yes , it is very one-sided. I’m not talking about how it is taught .

And, secondly, it is caused , and direct propaganda , people like Chivilihin , Adelman , Ilya Glazunov .

AM : Russia had never known racism. Otherwise there would not have appeared in the 19th century Slavophiles and Eurasians . And it is quite recently — the beginning of the century.

LG : I Eurasian ! 20 years, I did not print . In the phase of stagnation did not leave a single one of my books . Last — » Hun in China » was published in 1973. » Rus and the Great Steppe» coming out now . There comes a healthier society

AM : Have you ever been in Yakutsk ?

LG : Far East could not ride . But Okladnikov took me to the archaeological expedition.

AM : And who of modern Yakut scientists do you know?

LG : In Ksenofontova know nobody.

AM: What can you say about Yakutia ancient ties with China?

LG : In the era of the Turkic Khanate Kurykans kept apart. Talk about them in many Mongolian and Chinese annals , including the famous » Yuan Chao Bi -shek .» When Genghis Khan Kurikans already gone on Lena. Embassy Yakuts — Kurykan in China happened repeatedly . That is indisputable .

AM: In Yakut mounds found a lot of items , jewelry , glassware , weapons of Chinese origin. And , as they say the ancient Chinese, white Yakut horses sent as a gift to the Emperor of China . Several Chinese emperors were Kurykans wife .

Leo , now we live on the time unprecedented upsurge of national consciousness. How will this affect our federal multinational state ?

LG : In the USSR peoples now live , losing to New passionarnost passionate impulse . Yakutia joined Russia , not willingly . But we can not ignore the positive outcome of the traversed path together . If Yakutia get independence, it would have to create their own ministries, departments . Is it worth it to multiply this mass of bureaucracy ? You just need to learn in the general house of the USSR to respect the rights and human dignity of each other.

AM : Contemporary Soviet ( and I stress , not Russian ) federal culture , statehood , politics , the media are expressed Eurocentric character. Baikonur Cosmodrome in Kazakhstan is on the ground , but I do not remember a single Kazakh cosmonaut .

LG : Russia under Europe for 600 years. She does not have the historical experience , which is from the West. And, of course , that, passing through the same stages of development now that Europe and in the past, Russia turns to her experience . Europe puts pressure on the Russian cargo of their values ​​and dogmas.

Europeans forget that crops such as European, five in Asia . In Europe, only one . In Europe, the Byzantine superethnos was still formed in the I century AD , but he died , having lived their required 1200 years .

AM : Some of the Yakut intellectuals persist for decades sustained interest and sympathy to China and Japan. This is not essential , but still , how to explain this ?

LG : They just do not like the European manners . It is a natural , often subconscious desire to be , remain Asians (this from nature) , and they are forced to copy the Europeans. It is the same Eurocentrism .

 

AM : Are there any intellectuals in the USSR ? After intelligentsia — a class with their class values ​​, class outlook, are inherited , as they say — a hereditary proletarian etc. etc.

And can the intelligentsia in the first or second generation called intellectuals ? Forgotten good Russian word that previously designated this category of people : commoners !

LG : Intelligentsia anymore. As sub-ethnic group , which ached for the people, she disappeared . And the people became different . My contemporaries were professionals , not intellectuals . But among my professors were intellectuals . Boborykin wrote that the intelligentsia — people with incomplete higher education , people who care .

AM : Tolstoy , as you read Olonkho ?

LG : One slice of Omogoy and Ellyae , grandparent Yakuts.

AM : When do you Olonkho arose ?

LG : Olonkho arose resettlement Yakuts Kurykan — Lena . When they were defeated by the Buryats . Young Buryats in Siberia did the same thing that made ​​Genghis Khan in China. A Kurykans were already old men .

 

AM : Returning to our sores . There is an official point of view that children of mixed marriages Yakut- Russian nationality selected Yakut . But in fact, the facts say otherwise. Children of mixed marriages often prefer to consider themselves Russian . How to explain this ?

LG : This problem is not one of the Yakuts . Yakut culture can not oppose anything «Soviet culture» Russian content , because modern Yakuts largely — a relic . ( But the most robust and powerful relic in Siberia !)

AM : Before the revolution there were consistent trends that Yakut families were born an average of 9 C 10 children. But were still alive 1 — 2. Yakut scientists calculated that if these children did not die , but now it would be 5 million Yakuts.

LG : But Yakuts became stronger . In the course of such natural selection survival of the fittest , most talented . No wonder the Yakuts — very poetic , cultured, civilized people . And he still tells his word to the world ! In the difficult years for me , I was very grateful for the Yakuts that they were the only ones who are very interested in me , my books , ideyami.Kogda at university I took the exam the students Yakuts , I only asked : «Olonkho know? » And missing them (laughs).

AM : As the mother you are a descendant of Genghis Khan ? Akhmatova wrote that she chingisidka .

Published in the newspaper «Youth of Yakutia» ( Yakutsk) ,

March 30, 1989

«Youth of Yakutia» ( Yakutsk)