The TurboCASH Roadmap

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Philip Copeman

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Mar 3, 2006, 3:32:11 AM3/3/06
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1) The TurboCASH Developers List
2) The GNU GPL
3) Developer Collaboration

"He who receives an idea from me receives it without lessening me, as he who lights his candle at mine receives light without darkening me." - Thomas Jefferson

Malcolm don't be scared to use the developers list (I did remove you from it at your instruction). The members of the turb...@googlegroups.com list are here because they WANT to follow what we are doing. Members of this list can opt for Consolidated Digest Mail, Web only interface or remove themselves whenever they like. The tendency in a project of this nature is for people to form into fragments. We have to keep avoiding this and getting them back onto the Highway that is what the Roadmap is about.

My Late Econometrics Professor, Geet deWet gave me this Tip about Research. He said - "Spend 20% of your time revising and documenting your work.". If you spend all your energy pressing the boundaries of knowledge, eventually you put your head up, take a look around and you don't know where you are. So once a week spend 1 day, not going forward, but consolidating (A bit like doing your accounts in TurboCASH). I take this one step further I spend one week an month and on month per year doing this. It works for me - try it.

Each of us working separately does not help the Group or the Project.  - Read my Book "Death of the Hero Programmer".
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I am not avoiding you on the licencing, I just don't understand it.

What you are suggesting looks to me like a whole lot of complicated work. When there are similar things like making sure that every label is translated -  that will buy us more  punch in the market. Rather concerntrate on getting all the labels into the program is a similar text exersise. Create specilised Australian reports in Reportman. These are the thigns that  will count.

Please take my lead here - I have spent $ 100 000's on trademark and copy right. I am also fully aware of the pitfalls and traps. I have been to the Supreme Court of SA,  where I have spend huge money on this. Don't look for licencing issues - they will find us. Right now we don't have any - lets keep it that way.

Here is my offer - I have received your stuff, I see it, I prioritise to put straight development ahead of it. Both Sylvain and Pieter are critical resources. Let us use them for the things that I regard as priority. Once we have subversion fully functional we can deal with this. Noone other than you is hassling me about the licence.
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I agree with you about the Sourceforge, however we need to set up a collaborative system. We need to balance ease of use with the tendency to randomness. Sourceforge is the leader in this field, yet there are many of the bigger projects that opt our of using their technology. I think we should take a look at this. The Module owner for Project structuring on TurboCASH is Jan Verlaan. He has a career of experience at this. Please let us follow his suggestions.

We also have an ulterior motive for using Sourceforge, their policy is that use of their tracking system raises you up their rankings. We want to be up their rankings!

Jan - a number of developers and testers complain about the complexity of  entering a bug or feature ticket on Sourceforge. This is particularly true of the larger contributors who are dealing with many in a day. I am suggesting the Wiki as a means of  collaboration.

I have set this up to begin for TurboCASH 4
http://www.box.co.za/wiki/index.php/Roadmap_Current_Week#1_March_to_4_MArch

Look what I have done here
http://www.box.co.za/wiki/index.php/Roadmap_Linux

or here
http://www.box.co.za/wiki/index.php/BUGS_Version_3.7.5







Malcolm Cheyne wrote:
I have already been working with Pieter on it !!

I CAN compile but there is a number of bugs that he is fixing.

I did not want to bore everybody so sent the list direct to Pieter.

I know.... use sourceforge to report bugs.  This way is more direct
until we get a stable product.

I even have TC4 running from a Windows SBS2003 Server !!

Please answer my request to include "Exhibit A" in source files.

Malcolm


Philip Copeman wrote:
Focus on helping us wiht TurboCASH 4

See if you can compile it.







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cost1uk

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Mar 3, 2006, 7:04:30 AM3/3/06
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Hi 
Phil I don't now if your still after a cheaper conference provider if you want a conference at a bargain price let me now I can give you a conference room for a great price with unlimited seats. 
 
If you want the price let me now
G costanza
 
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digidan

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Mar 3, 2006, 1:10:24 PM3/3/06
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Hi great ==

Stocfk file override

maybe YES primary

but not only applicable to stock only == also consulting and services STOCK is not the only issue for default accs and tax accs

 

Regards Danie

 

These Added by Philip 1 March 2006

  • 13 US invoicing that was working in 3-74-101 has now gone

must include Edit >Accounts> Debtors >Accouting Information

Default Sales Account - means that you can overide the saels acocutn to which trnascitosn are credits. thei cna then be dione per debtor - useful fro "Over seas" Sales. Default Tax Account - Will dfault to the chosen account in invocing and willoverride the one that woudl ahve come fromn the stock file.

  • 14 New Welcome screen - Philip
  • 15 Please put in new Support screen
StockOveride.jpg

Jan Verlaan

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Mar 5, 2006, 7:13:11 AM3/5/06
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In reply on Philip's comment;
[QUOTE]Jan - a number of developers and testers complain about the complexity of  entering a bug or feature ticket on Sourceforge. This is particularly true of the larger contributors who are dealing with many in a day. I am suggesting the Wiki as a means of  collaboration.
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Perhaps I'am blind due to the fact that I'am working with the SourgeForge system a while, but I don't see the complexity.
Submitter has to insert only the problem he is facing in a predefined format that can be copied from the text above the insert-text place on the form.
The 3 listboxes can stay as default as the team will assign the right codes here. There is no simpler system I can imaging from front end perspective.

I do agree that if a bug IS inserted the provided functionality is limited to sort out the data, especially for the developers, but if we want more functionality we have to switch to another bugtracking tool.
For the most needed functionality I have submitted a feature request to SourceForge team that is honored, just waiting for the implementation.

I would really like to know from the user community what the complains are you have, so I can gather them together and make a proposal from it how we can overcome your complains.
I will create a new Topic on Turb...@googlegroups.com where you can post your complains.
http://groups.google.com/group/TurboCASH/browse_frm/thread/4a13590e5c0b400b/

With kind regards,
Jan

Selwyn Wacks

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Mar 5, 2006, 7:49:06 AM3/5/06
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I have to agree with this. I would like to make many many more bug reports and feature suggestions , but have been held back by the very slow and cumbersome sourceforge system.
 
 
 
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Selwyn Wacks
Tel 083 273 4216
Fax 0866774993

www.sunspecs.co.za

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Selwyn Wacks

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Mar 5, 2006, 7:54:06 AM3/5/06
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I have to qualify my last statement as it may apply to only a few of us.
 
I dont have a high speed internet connection. Soureforge is PAINFULLY slow for low bandwidth connections.
 
I.t.o.the actual system i dont see anything wrong with it
 
Sincerely,
Selwyn Wacks
Tel 083 273 4216
Fax 0866774993

www.sunspecs.co.za

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cost1uk

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Mar 5, 2006, 11:56:01 AM3/5/06
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Hi 
Phil I don't now if your still after a cheaper conference provider if you want a conference at a bargain price let me now I can give you a conference room for a great price with unlimited seats. 
 
If you want the price let me now
 
 
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Michiel T Neethling

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Mar 6, 2006, 11:18:15 AM3/6/06
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Hi Phillip

 

I am struggling to open a set of books created, and still being used in 3.6. Juan said that if we can overvome this error, we can upgrade to the newest Turbo Cash (at last)! When I want to open the set of books in 3.74.101 it complains about a lot of tables not found.(dnlbank etc). If I copy one of these tables from another set of books, it complains again about sysparams. I also copy this.

 

In this way I was able to open all the 3.6 books under 3.72, but this particular set of books then open, but when I want to get a trail balance (or anything else) it says tblBatch – Operation not allowed on a closed dataset. When I go into the batch entry, the screen is blank where the batch gridlines normally appear. Personnally I do not think this is an error in this set of books, it must be something more general.

 

Can you give me any pointers?

 

PS The bankrecon report in 3.74.101 is also wrong. It does not add the amount entered as the balance on the bankstatement, i.e. if your bank reconcile, it shows a difference equal to the bank statement balance.

 

I have not tried 3.74.104 or 3.74.200., as I have to be very careful when upgrading in the office.

 

Greetings

Michiel

 

PPS – I still need TCInsight. Where can I download it? You gave me a link to the wiki, but that only links to the JVCL, which I use in any case.

 

What version is the one now available on CD?

 

Sorry about all the questions, but this is very urgent.


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Philip Copeman

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Mar 6, 2006, 4:04:23 PM3/6/06
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Right now I have room at webex fro Free - can it get any cheaper than that?

There hasnl;t been a great uptaek on this. We msut surely be missing soenting here.

Why don't you try offerieng courses in the UK?



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cost1uk

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Mar 6, 2006, 4:18:03 PM3/6/06
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That's is good the most I was selling 1 conference room for was $260 a month with all the features 
 
Well I can't beat that 
 
 
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