iShell - An Open Source Future
Matt Veenstra
iShell is an amazing product. It has made many of us very happy and
along the way brought us some aggravating moments as well.
Writing software does that.
iShell has wonderful dedicated users, and tribalmedia has not been
stellar at supporting our users over the last 18 months. It is time
to put iShell into the hands of the users and ensure a future where iShell
may be further developed by its user base. With that said we will be
open sourcing iShell with a liberal license that allows commercial as
well as open source projects.
tribalmedia is dedicated to bringing our latest code to Mac and
Windows. This includes fixes for Windows 7 and Mac 10.6. A rewritten
Internet engine. A local SQLite implemenation. As well as the
goodies from Kromo, ZebraTools, and ImageLayer you have learned to not
be able to live without. This will become iShell 5 and be delivered in the
near future.
We will open a repository with the code on Google Code (possibly
source forge). This will provide a central repository
to download installers, and grab all the source code if one desires.
We can document in the wiki, track bugs in the issue tracker, and
always find the product itself.
tribalmedia will continue to provide support for iShell, through
Google Groups as we do today. There will be standard options to
purchase direct iShell support hours to get you over the hump. As
well as iShell engineering hours, to create any new feature you may
like or fix a bug that is a show stopper for your project.
Thank you for your support as we move through this transition. We
believe this will put iShell in a very good position for you, the
iShell developer to make great creations in the future.
Cheers,
Matt
Brian Moran
update old, like, version 2.5.3 projects (.kd) to something more
current?
Lloyd Sharp
I think I know the answer here, but is there any semi-easy way to update old, like, version 2.5.3 projects (.kd) to something more current?
Dr Bob Jansen
some time ago when I was in your situation, I was able to open an old
editor by winding back my computer's clock. I set it to a day before the
expiry date of the license and was able to open the project OK. Be
careful though as this may upset other programs depending on current
date and time.
The lack of a migration tool was always an issue with us and that was
one reason we moved our main app off iShell and into web technologies. I
still think iShell as an extension for a browser would be fantastic but
we're not going to get that now are we.......
bobj
On 20/07/2010 9:26 AM, Lloyd Sharp wrote:
>
> On 20/07/2010, at 6:16 AM, Brian Moran wrote:
>
>> I think I know the answer here, but is there any semi-easy way to
>> update old, like, version 2.5.3 projects (.kd) to something more current?
>>
>
> yes moving your projects from v2.5.3 to the last available version 4.5
> would require a complete rebuild.
> Although i did several a while back and it was not that hard or time
> consuming - it depends on the complexity of your project.
>
> I notice that the www.tribalmedia.com <http://www.tribalmedia.com>
> site is unavailable again atm and unsure where the open source version
> of ishell is 'at'.
> In that regard - my subscription has expired and i'm not sure what to
> do with my legacy projects now as I can't open the editor to use it
> anymore.
>
> You may like to consider runrev as an alternative platform.
> http://www.runrev.com/
>
> Lloyd
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There is an iShell 2 -> 3 upgrade tool:
Download Library/Older Products/iShell 2 to 3 Upgrade
http://www.tribalmedia.com/downloads/software/Upgrade/Upgrade2to3.sit
Then open in ver 4 and walla.
Regards,
Gil Anspacher, tribalmedia Support
From: Brian Moran <brim...@pacbell.net>
Reply-To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:23 -0700
To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Updating legacy projects
I think I know the answer here, but is there any semi-easy way to
update old, like, version 2.5.3 projects (.kd) to something more
current?
Gil Anspacher
Lloyd, if you need a license, just let us know. We are working on the transition.
Regards,
Gil Anspacher, tribalmedia Support
Reply-To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:35 +1000
To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Updating legacy projects
I think I know the answer here, but is there any semi-easy way to update old, like, version 2.5.3 projects (.kd) to something more current?
yes moving your projects from v2.5.3 to the last available version 4.5 would require a complete rebuild.
Although i did several a while back and it was not that hard or time consuming - it depends on the complexity of your project.
In that regard - my subscription has expired and i'm not sure what to do with my legacy projects now as I can't open the editor to use it anymore.
You may like to consider runrev as an alternative platform.
http://www.runrev.com/
Lloyd
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Brian Moran
Lloyd Sharp
Gil Anspacher, Tribalmedia Support
Not sure why the site is not working in OZ. I will send you a license shortly.
Regards,
Gil Anspacher, tribalmedia Support
From: Lloyd Sharp <lsh...@bigpond.net.au>
Reply-To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Updating legacy projects
For the site access i'm still getting a 'can't connect to server' or 'can't establish a connection' message and nothing comes up in any browser here on different machines.
Might be a regional DNS or ISP thing - but I'm on one of the bigger ISP's out here in Australia and the DNS looks ok.
On lookup i get:
tribalmedia.com <http://tribalmedia.com> . 85964 IN A 64.84.47.28
I would like a license for at least editing older projects now that my ongoing Sub has expired.
What are the options?
Lloyd
On 20/07/2010, at 11:33 PM, Gil Anspacher wrote:
The site is online.
Lloyd, if you need a license, just let us know. We are working on the transition.
Regards,
Gil Anspacher, tribalmedia Support
From: Lloyd Sharp <lsh...@bigpond.net.au>
Reply-To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 09:26:35 +1000
To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Updating legacy projects
On 20/07/2010, at 6:16 AM, Brian Moran wrote:
I think I know the answer here, but is there any semi-easy way to update old, like, version 2.5.3 projects (.kd) to something more current?
yes moving your projects from v2.5.3 to the last available version 4.5 would require a complete rebuild.
Although i did several a while back and it was not that hard or time consuming - it depends on the complexity of your project.
I notice that the www.tribalmedia.com <http://www.tribalmedia.com> <http://www.tribalmedia.com> <http://www.tribalmedia.com/> site is unavailable again atm and unsure where the open source version of ishell is 'at'.
In that regard - my subscription has expired and i'm not sure what to do with my legacy projects now as I can't open the editor to use it anymore.
You may like to consider runrev as an alternative platform.
http://www.runrev.com/
Lloyd
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Gil Anspacher, Tribalmedia Support
As you found from my email from way back, this was many moons ago. What I remember is that a doc can not have ANY plugins in it... I think... Change them to placeholders or comments and see if that works. Also, I assume you followed the directions in the doc: How to Upgrade - Must Read.pdf in the upgrade tools folder, correct? There a number of critical steps.
Regards,
Gil Anspacher, tribalmedia Support
From: Brian Moran <brim...@pacbell.net>
Reply-To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2010 11:38:54 -0700
To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Updating legacy projects
Is the idea that you individually open each .kd doc with this little "document file" button? It doesn't seem to work (??)
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Brian
Gil - Thanks, I'm thrilled to hear that. I found a G4 Mac, reinstalled OS9, reinstalled iShell 2.5.3, went through the Upgade2to3 instructions, but unfortunately nothing happens - it doesn't update anything. Do you suppose it needs a real license and not just the evaluation license?
Brian,
There is an iShell 2 -> 3 upgrade tool:
Download Library/Older Products/iShell 2 to 3 Upgrade
http://www.tribalmedia.com/downloads/software/Upgrade/Upgrade2to3.sit
Then open in ver 4 and walla.
Regards,
Gil Anspacher, tribalmedia Support
From: Brian Moran <brim...@pacbell.net>
Reply-To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2010 13:16:23 -0700
To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Updating legacy projects
I think I know the answer here, but is there any semi-easy way to
update old, like, version 2.5.3 projects (.kd) to something more
current?
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Gil Anspacher, Tribalmedia Support
I doubt anyone has a good working knowledge of this one. Did you check for all issues noted in the included how to doc? There are a few items that will cause issues. Dig deep.
Regards,
Gil Anspacher, tribalmedia Support
From: Brian Moran <brim...@pacbell.net>
Reply-To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Tracy Valleau
As it turns out, I might have a use for it soon...
Is -anything- more recent than 4.5 (Jan, 2008) available?
TIA
Tracy
AIM...@aol.com
Tracy Valleau
Hector Navarro
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Tim Hunter
Tim Hunter
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Denis Williamson
I just wondered if anyone has ever found a good way to produce graphs and charts from iShell, using data stored in tables? The user would chose which bits of the data to show, and I'd be happy with line charts/area charts to start with.
I've been looking at Google Charts and a company called FusionCharts, and both have products that require knowledge of e.g. PHP and MySQL, which are not impossible for me, but I thought I'd try an iShell alternative first.
Any ideas would be welcome.
Denis
Hong Kong
Gil Anspacher, Tribalmedia Support
One way: send the data in a Tell Internet Post event to a web based app that will outout to a jpg at url specified in the post or a static url. Then load the jpg as an image. You just need to find the app to do the work.
Bar graphs would be simple enough in iShell, but would be a bit of a process.
Gil
From: Denis Williamson <den...@mac.com>
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Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2011 15:48:21 +0800
To: "Triba...@googlegroups.com" <Triba...@googlegroups.com>
Subject: Charts and Graphs with iShell?