Re: [twdev] TiddlyWiki5 RoadMap

[Jeremy Ruston]

Hi Tobias

Thanks for the enquiry. I will update the roadmap tiddler shortly, but
gist of it is that for the last couple of months I've been focussing
on TiddlyFox and TiddlyWiki in the Sky. Over the summer it became
clear that the basic proposition of TiddlyWiki was under threat due to
several factors:

* Increased browser security making saving on the desktop increasingly
complicated
* The shift to mobile devices, where TiddlyWiki has never had a good story

I felt it was important to address these points, both to keep classic
TiddlyWiki useful and relevant, and to lay the groundwork for
TiddlyWiki5.

TiddlyFox seems to be our best long term hope of retaining the ability
to have self-modifying, offline HTML apps like TiddlyWiki. It's a
reasonably clean interface, and there's reason to hope that we'll be
able to get it working on non-iOS mobile devices.

TiddlyWiki in the Sky is also very exciting to me because it offers
the prospect of flexible online access from any device while retaining
the key advantage of ensuring users stay in control of their own data.

I'm now starting to work on TiddlyWiki5 in the Sky. Unlike the
existing version for classic TW, this new version stores tiddlers as
individual files in a sandbox in your dropbox. It's coming along
nicely, and I'm now thinking that this should be the variant that is
released first.

Best wishes

Jeremy

On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Tobias Brunner
<tobias....@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just wanted to ask how the development of TW5 is going on? On the RoadMap
> at http://five.tiddlywiki.com/ I read "Hopefully, TiddlyWiki5 will reach
> version 1.0 around September". Are there any updates on this RoadMap?
>
> Cheers,
> Tobias
>
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[Tobias Brunner]

Hi Jeremy,

Thanks a lot for the update. I'm looking forward what's coming in the future =)
Do you plan to support other cloud storage than Dropbox, f.e. ownCloud or even Git (or Git Annex). (I really don't trust Dropbox).

I really appreciate you nice work on TiddlyWiki. Thanks!

Cheers,
Tobias

[Jeremy Ruston]

> Thanks a lot for the update. I'm looking forward what's coming in the future
> =)
> Do you plan to support other cloud storage than Dropbox, f.e. ownCloud or
> even Git (or Git Annex). (I really don't trust Dropbox).

Yes, absolutely. I went with Dropbox first because they're the market
leader, but the idea is that "TiddlyWiki in the Sky" brand for hosted
TW services can run on Dropbox, Amazon, Nodejitsu, or what have you.

The really awesome thing about the Dropbox API is that it enables
TiddlyWiki in the Sky to be an entirely static app, with no serverside
logic. That means that end users have one less entity to trust, which
seems cool.

Also, some time ago I integrated the Stanford JavaScript Crypto
library into TW5, which will enable us to encrypt saved tiddlers and
only decrypt them in the browser, so Dropbox never sees your
unencrypted data.

> I really appreciate you nice work on TiddlyWiki. Thanks!

Many thanks, much appreciated,

Best wishes

Jeremy

> Cheers,
> Tobias

[Tobias Brunner]

I'm not shure if it's possible, but the nicest thing would be to upload Tiddlers with WebDav. Most cloud storage provide a WebDav interface.

Cheers,
Tobias