Writing Forms (not HTML forms, ways of writing)

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@TiddlyTweeter

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Sep 26, 2020, 12:20:25 PM9/26/20
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Lot of the time here we deal in housekeeping -- developing necessary code work to be able to write what we want as we want it.

Yet we seem bad at exposing what it is for. End products.

I am very interested in writing forms. Modernist writing style for instance (already 100+ years old); playing with writing cliches.

An instance: We take for granted the paragraph. In Medieval England a lot of (of course) hand-written paragraphs started with red text to indicate break in thought--it was both marker of new physical scope (now paragraph) AND meaning substance summary (now H1 etc). There was NO concept of line breaks visually. It was a valid form that worked well.

I wonder IF anyone reading here is interested in exploring writing forms? TW in this a means to an end. A good one. But results nothing to do with it directly (i.e. reader does not need to know).

Dimmi (tell me)
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TT


PMario

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Sep 26, 2020, 3:09:38 PM9/26/20
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Hi,

It's still possible to create a ::first-letter in CSS. See: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/::first-letter

Especially the variant h2 + p::first-letter {} is very interesting.

-m

PMario

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Sep 26, 2020, 3:24:15 PM9/26/20
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Hi,

That's a very interesting topic. Printing books has been developed and improved since about 500 years. .. HTML and the internet was able to "destroy" it in 20 years. .. In the last may be 10 years the standardizing groups try to implement elements from "printed media" into "web media"

We got new HTML/CSS elements like flexbox, grid, masking and others, that allow us to improve and control the layout of a web page. ... BUT we are still miles away from printing a good looking page, directly from the browser.

We need to convert HTML to TeX with 3rd party tools, to be able to get a good looking printed page, that we can read with joy as a PDF. .. No trees need to die ;)

-mario

@TiddlyTweeter

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Sep 26, 2020, 3:58:15 PM9/26/20
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Right.

The very freedom has slashed the throat of slow evolution. Visual design potentials got over DIVORCED from meaning.

So we have exciting visuals, for what?

I do think its interesting to look back to perfectly viable systems where the pen had to handle both content AND form simultaneously.

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TT

Corey Woodworth

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Nov 3, 2020, 2:19:54 AM11/3/20
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I wonder if there'd be a demand for a pdf.js powered plugin to turn completed tiddlywikis into PDFs

TonyM

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Nov 5, 2020, 2:55:33 AM11/5/20
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Corey

Perhaps such a library of tools could be helpful, but a lot can already be done by building a tiddler in which what you see is what you get, open it in a new window and print to pdf. Especially if you include page breaks in the display. I like foxit reader as even the free version provides extensive mark-up on pdfs. Sometimes it is better to make use of a specialist solution in conjunction with tiddlywiki?.

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Tony

@TiddlyTweeter

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Nov 5, 2020, 8:25:44 AM11/5/20
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The OT is about supporting WRITING that, minimally, questions the, online, MODERN PARAGRAPH.

PMario got the idea.That its about concepts of what "text expression" is.

I DO like both Corey & TonyM's ideas, though neither address the OP.

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TT

Corey Woodworth

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Nov 5, 2020, 12:59:10 PM11/5/20
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That does make a lot more sense. :)
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