Hey

[Devon Jones]

Link added to TiddlyForge.

looks like I get first post ;)

Devon

[David Mercer]

Indeed! As the list creator I felt that it was gauche of my to begin
babbling before anyone shows up to church! Heh, one more and we've
got a religion!

(Pardon my sense of humor if it offends....."and anywhere three or
more are gethered"...heh).

Anyway, I am SSSOOOOOOOO wiped out from the last week of insanely
paced writing, coding, hacking, designing....think I need a bit of
downtime!

Oh I love your email address, I hadn't noticed the entire thing until
now, I had only noticed the 'soulcatcher' bit, and the evilsoft.org
just puts it right over the top into Infinately Covetable Geek-dom!!
Nice.

I'm down to student-level income second level domains of lameness only
at this point!! :-)

Ah, so far from the days when I gave the future hostm...@home.net
his first job out of college! Heh, get the irony there? I'm now a 34
year old sophomore trying his hand at College 2.0, The Second Dropping
Out...well, I'm gonna hafta at least PRETEND to care for one more
semester, as that's currently the only funding for this mess over
here!

Anyway, how the heck are ya? Which part of this wizards coven/band of
madmen/happiest coders I've seen on the net are you? You'll have to
forgive me but I am so overwhelmed I'm having trouble remembering who
hacks which code bits! OMG it's all so wonderful!

I give it till new years till we're totally swamped around here :-)

-David

[David Mercer]

Wow, I am out of it, your very, very, very short message should have
told me "duh, dave, he's the tiddlyforge guy!"

I love the *-forge names, probably due to all of my nordic ancestors
back in mists of time, or something :-)

-David

[Devon Jones]

David Mercer wrote:
> Indeed! As the list creator I felt that it was gauche of my to begin
> babbling before anyone shows up to church! Heh, one more and we've
> got a religion!
>
> (Pardon my sense of humor if it offends....."and anywhere three or
> more are gethered"...heh).
>
> Anyway, I am SSSOOOOOOOO wiped out from the last week of insanely
> paced writing, coding, hacking, designing....think I need a bit of
> downtime!
>
> Oh I love your email address, I hadn't noticed the entire thing until
> now, I had only noticed the 'soulcatcher' bit, and the evilsoft.org
> just puts it right over the top into Infinately Covetable Geek-dom!!
> Nice.
>

Thanks :) I've had it for some time. We picked up the evilsoft domain
in something like 99. I finally put a blog up on the web addy like 3
days ago.

> Ah, so far from the days when I gave the future hostm...@home.net
> his first job out of college! Heh, get the irony there? I'm now a 34
> year old sophomore trying his hand at College 2.0, The Second Dropping
> Out...well, I'm gonna hafta at least PRETEND to care for one more
> semester, as that's currently the only funding for this mess over
> here!
>
> Anyway, how the heck are ya? Which part of this wizards coven/band of
> madmen/happiest coders I've seen on the net are you? You'll have to
> forgive me but I am so overwhelmed I'm having trouble remembering who
> hacks which code bits! OMG it's all so wonderful!
>

I run TiddlyForge, and have written about 8 plugins for tiddlywiki.
Other then that, I've been the lead coder for an open source project
named PCGen (A character generator for D20/D&D games - with about 10-60
people depending on how active one needs to be to be defined as a
contributor) (http://www.sf.net/pcgenn) for a couple years. You?

> I give it till new years till we're totally swamped around here :-)
>

Yeah, this community is growing quickly. I have a strong suspicion that
tiddlywiki is going to be at least a moderatly big deal.

This community seems prepped to grow, I think it just needs a few
elements in place to give it some structure.

Devon

[Devon Jones]

:-)

[bytehead]

It's been awhile since I visited, but Google just popped up and told me
that this might be adult in nature, and I had to click that I was over
18. WTF?

[David Mercer]

The ADVOCACY list is over 18, not the normal TiddlyWiki and
TiddlyWikiDev groups.

Why you ask? Well, in my 20+ years online, almost all of the advocacy
and evangelism groups/lists I've seen for various technologies have
had a tendency to get a bit, well, heated. Kind of implicit in the
name, no?

As I created this list and know how I myself can get a bit carried
away in 'spreading the word' as it were, and how I consider ANY form
of religion (technical or otherwise! :-) to not really be meant for
minors without direct parental supervision, in a fit of whimsy I check
the over 18 box. Didn't realize that it was an irrevocable choice
when making a Google Group, or I probably wouldn't have done it that
way, but there it is!

Anyway, if one desires pure, technical discourse and friendly exchange
regarding all things TiddlyWiki, those are indeed the place. However,
if you want to get excited and spread the motherfucking word about the
greatest damned invention in computing since the freakin' GUI, this is
for you!

See, I just got carried away with myself and swore like a sailor! But
this is the place for it!

Ciao,

Pastor Dave
First Church of TiddlyWiki
Tucson, AZ

[bytehead]

LOL. OK, I understand. I think.

And I turned eighteen 30 years and one day ago.

Father Bryan
First Church of TiddlyWiki
Jacksonville branch

[David Mercer]

Say it brother! We now have TWO branchs, in Tucson and Jacksonville!!

Hallelujh!!!

Is it totally obvious that I come from a long (>400 years) line of
preachers? :-)

Hey, Apple, MS and others have the official job title of Evangelist,
so what the hell, why not just be totally up front with it in open
source? We gonna change the world, or at least the face of computing!

1) The Holy Grail of Programmers has indeed been constructed: firefox
runs everywhere (just about!), is open source, and TiddlyWiki is our
server-less application delivery platform.

2) As Brother Randy pointed out to me on IM last nite, TiddlyWiki
isn't a killer app, it's an app killer: goodbye Dreamweaver and
friends, why would a normal person outside of a corporate environment
use anything else for a static content site? The incremental effort to
get something nicer looking than a bog standard TiddlyWiki is huge,
compared to messing about with it's built in stylesheets. Attach the
graphics inline via Eric's AttachFilePlugin, and you don't have to
worry about putting the image files in the right directory, etc.

And that's just what you get with using the current version! More
plugins are released everyday, and here at Church Central we are
getting ready to release plugins to make the web server itself
redundant for all but the largest sites.

Screencasts showing how to easily do all of this are in the works and
coming soon. Look here for their initial announcement! The current
TiddlyWiki system has not even had a fraction of it's power tapped by
normal users, and I'm here to bring The Word to the masses!

Praise Jeremy!! Sing it!!!

-Pastor Dave