Call for ideas on how you might Collaborate on "one document"

[molicule]

Hi,

I am contemplating adding collaboration to FireBaggr.

TiddlyWiki editing is currently a single user excercise. With
FireBaggr it becomes relatively trivial to add 'collaboration'. For
example, Person A can start a wiki and 'share it' from within
FireBaggr. Persons B & C can than import it in and work on it. Persons
A, B & C can effectively collaborate on the same document which would
reside
on a server.

Would such a facility be useful, if so what kind of examples would you
posit it was useful for and how would you use it.

Your feedback would help me as I design/implement this thing through.

Thanks
S. Sriram

[wolfgang]

Hi Sriram,

I don't understand you. Do you mean a locally installed Firefox
extension as FireBaggr would make it possible to have multiuser
collaboration with TiddlyWikies stored on servers, like the one at
TiddlySpot?

Or how?

Regards,

W.

[S. Sriram]

Yes, one example would be that any file within FireBaggr could be
"shared" by Person A.
Persons B & C now would 'import this shared file' into their FireBaggr
make changes etc.
to their copy of this file and 'submit the changes', Persons A, B, C & D
now would see
the new (updated version) within their FireBaggr. Some conflict/diff
management could
be instituted to allow for rolling back the changes.

- Enterprises could use it to have their employees collaborate on
various documents etc.
- TW users could use it to collaboratively build a 'help/faq' file etc.

My question is what ideas do readers of this list have for something
like this and
how might they want to use such a facility.

S. Sriram

[wolfgang]

> My question is what ideas do readers of this list have for something
> like this and
> how might they want to use such a facility.
>

Replacing GoogleGroups would be the first thing I would love to do -
once it would be possible to edit TiddlyWikis collaboratively - be it
with FireBaggr, ccTiddly or TiddlyWeb - any thing will do better. :-)

No seriously, beside your suggestion for collaborate use in enterprise
- though many might think that wont be possible - I think one of
TiddlyWikis many future lifes lies in discussion-forums too.

Regards,

W.

[Morris Gray]

On Oct 14, 9:38 am, "S. Sriram" <molic...@gmail.com> wrote:
> My question is what ideas do readers of this list have for something
> like this and how might they want to use such a facility.

I have been using FireBaggr for a few days and I can see a lot of
potential. It needs some tweaking and tailoring for file manipulation
and to optimize it for specific reasons yet to be solidified. At the
moment I see it used as a project based program where lots of
different documents can be grouped for easy access worked on and
exported/saved as a group if need be.

Or with the use of the templates generating similar 'Jaspers' to
disseminate to many users and then pulling them back together for
consolidation. For instance for research groups or student handouts
and lessons

However collaboration and true multiuser is a bit more difficult. I
can see a project leader aggregating inputs from several separate
sources into FireBaggr but at the moment simultaneous changes or a
passing around through a group could be could get logistically
interesting:-) A read/modify/pass on regimen would have to be set up
properly and rigidly enforceable and in the end these things never
completely overcome human recalcitrance.

At this stage of my experimenting I still see it as a single user tool
for complicated projects. It also might be a good tool for assembling
manuals or even a novel.

And here's food for thought:

Since the original designer of TiddlySnip has been forced to abandon
its development and with your expertise with Firefox plugins it would
fit well in coordination with FireBaggr. TiddlySnip could be used to
assemble the components of more complex documents and along with
multiple file manipulation could be a bridge to span and coordinate
content between a range of documents both within and without of
FireBaggr. Besides that you would become a hero to TiddlySnip users.

By the way could you tell me how to access templates in FireBaggr and
be able to add my own?

Morris

[S. Sriram]

Morris Gray wrote:
> And here's food for thought:
>
> Since the original designer of TiddlySnip has been forced to abandon
> its development and with your expertise with Firefox plugins it would
> fit well in coordination with FireBaggr. TiddlySnip could be used t

If you see the right-mouse menu on any loaded html page you will notice
a FireBaggr->BagThis option. This will grow to do what TiddlySnip does
and more.

> By the way could you tell me how to access templates in FireBaggr and
> be able to add my own?
>

For now I chose to only point to templates in chrome. I will modify this
in future versions. For now what you can do is create a templates
directory in ....Profiles/.../FireBaggr/templates. Than use the File
Manager to copy from there and paste to the notebooks directory and go.

S. Sriram