Treeview comments and bugs

[Morris Gray]

Transferred from thread http://tinyurl.com/o37b47 because bloat.

On May 21, 1:01 am, Mike Norman <mwnor...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I tried the experimental treeview and it worked on my system (WinXP/
> SP3, Firefox 3.0.10); however, when
> I navigated away, the portion of the page where the Menu was did not
> get re-drawn by FF - tried a couple
> different sites, forced a refresh: nothing worked. Somehow, the Menu
> 'damage' doesn't get 'repaired'.
>
> Anyone else see this?

Are you talking about:
http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/
Built on FF3.05 - Vista , tested on IE7 and Chrome

You say you've tried a couple of different sites; was it your own
implementation of TreeView plugin? It sounds like a CSS problem.
There have been several ways of accessing the CSS and images floating
around. I've changed the name of the CSS tiddler from
jquery.treeview.css to JqueryTreeviewCSS because something didn't like
the dots.

The latest instructions are under SetUp on the Treeview menus. I've
put a version number on it now to avoid confusion I've started with
Version: 1.0.1

Please keep us informed.

Morris

[IainS]

After spending some time I got treeview to work but only be modifying
the existing Main Menu like this

@@padding-left:2em;font-size:1.1em;color:#c06;[[Treeview .23 menu
trial|Topic]]@@
----
<<treeview2 "1990" "filetree" 'collapsed: false, antisesame: "closed",
animated: "normal", persist: "cookie", cookieId: "myid"' >>

----
{{textcenter{<<tiddler TW-NET>>}}}

When I put in treeview1 it gave me an error message error in macro
<<treview1>> so is something missing in the experiment??

I think this really useful (maybe we can call its developers "the
Goodies") and I can see how it can make TW Notes much better.

How would it be implemented on existing TW- Notes?

[Morris Gray]

On May 24, 6:38 pm, IainS <i...@jcis.net.au> wrote:

> When I put in treeview1 it gave me an error message error in macro
> <<treview1>> so is something missing in the experiment??

<<treview1>> was for version1 of the plugin it is 2 now.

> I think this really useful (maybe we can call its developers "the
> Goodies") and I can see how it can make TW Notes much better.

> How would it be implemented on existing TW- Notes?

You can use your present TW-Notes menus with practically no change.
About the only change is taking the site map slider command <<siteMap
[[My subTopic1]] . sliders>> out of the first level tiddler. and and
possibly it will work straight off.

In fact you could run both menus types at the same time if it wasn't
for the name comflicts. but you can have either or...

Of course some instructions have to change and a few tiddlers to help
make it easier but not anything material to keep you from trying it.

The instructions here are enough to get you started Under
TreeviewSetup

http://twt-notes-treeview-experimental.tiddlyspot.com/index.html

Morris

[Måns]

Hi Morris

This is so great that I can't express it (in english anyway :-))
This must be the best navigational plugin for TW yet -
extraoridinarily WELL DONE!!

I'm trying to use it in a TW I've tranlated to Danish - but I have
problems with EditFieldPlugin - by Eric Shulman and I don't know if
it's related to the treeviewplugin (hope not!)
You can see that it's not working here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/TreeNotes.html
(clean install in twt-notes)
Here's my translation: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/Tr%C3%A6Noter.html
(with many added plugins)

YS Måns Mårtensson

[Eric Weir]

On May 24, 2009, at 6:50 PM, Morris Gray wrote:

> You can use your present TW-Notes menus with practically no change.
> About the only change is taking the site map slider command <<siteMap
> [[My subTopic1]] . sliders>> out of the first level tiddler. and and
> possibly it will work straight off.

Picky, picky, picky! That's me! If TW-Notes [tabbed] with TreeView in
place of siteMap was available with the colors of the Blackicity theme
[ http://tiddlythemes.com/#Blackicity ] I would adopt it in a minute,
since it already has a lot that I've tried to create for myself, and
some that I'm absolutely incapable of creating. siteMap has been the
main thing that has put me off. I gave it a try but it was just too
cumbersome. With TreeView in place of it my only hesitation is the
color scheme. One of the things I'm absolutely incapable of fixing.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Eric Weir
Decatur, GA USA
eew...@bellsouth.net

[Mark S.]

You can try it with class "treeview-black", and see if that fills the
bill better. There's also "treeview-gray". Other color schemes could
be made by playing with the little graphic icons and substituting the
colors you want in some image editor.

-- Mark

[Eric Weir]

On May 24, 2009, at 8:02 PM, Mark S. wrote:

> You can try it with class "treeview-black", and see if that fills the
> bill better. There's also "treeview-gray". Other color schemes could
> be made by playing with the little graphic icons and substituting the
> colors you want in some image editor.

Thanks, Mark. The comment about my color preferences were directed at
TWT-Notes, not the implementation of TreeView. I'd like to substitute
the colors of the Blackicity TiddlyWiki theme, which are not to the
liking of anyone but me, for those Morris has chosen for TWT-Notes.

I imagine pretty simple for those of you who know CSS. A big
investment in learning CSS just to satisfy your color preferences.

[Eric Weir]

On May 24, 2009, at 9:38 PM, Eric Weir wrote:

> which are not to the liking of anyone but me

Should have been "may not." Maybe somebody besides me does like it?

[Måns]

Same problem here - with an earlier version of twt-notes with the tree-
plugin: http://måns.dk/TsT/#EditFieldPlugin

YS Måns Mårtensson

[Måns]

Hi TiddlyTreeWizards

I've been playing around with a GiffMex version (http://
www.giffmex.org/nteng/philemontiddly.html) of MenuMore: (http://
oldcat.googlegroups.com/web/MenuMoreEn.html) - and combined it with
Morris' experimental TwT-notes to get the different treeoptions into
different mainmenus triggered by different topmenu links and more
tweaks adapted from Eric Shulmans customized TWs - (loong sentence I
know)...

I have 4 problems though:
1) HtmlformattingPlugin http://www.tiddlytools.com/#HTMLFormattingPlugin
, doesn't seem to agree with MenuMore's menus
2) EditFieldPlugin http://www.tiddlytools.com/#EditFieldPlugin doesn't
work with treeviewplugin (or maybe it's TwT-notes??)
3) I get a white background for the treeviewicons - and it doesn't
look very well on the greyish mainmenu of the philemon theme
4) Some of my templates don't work without problem nr 1 and 2 solved
and I have some strange behaviour with two of them opening beneath the
actual tiddlerarea... even if it's correct when I print it with
snapshotplugin http://www.tiddlytools.com/#SnapshotPlugin...

You can have a look at it here: http://dl.getdropbox.com/u/1064531/NoterMenuer.html

If you know of possible solutions to any of the problems, please give
me a clue..

Regards Måns Mårtensson

[Eric Shulman]

> 1) HtmlformattingPluginhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#HTMLFormattingPlugin

> , doesn't seem to agree with MenuMore's menus

MenuMore uses HTML to define the command links. You need to add the
special "<hide linebreaks>" syntax to eliminate extra newlines. For
more detail, see discussion about 'linebreaks' in
http://www.TiddlyTools.com/#HTMLFormattingPluginInfo

2) EditFieldPluginhttp://www.tiddlytools.com/#EditFieldPlugindoesn't

> work with treeviewplugin (or maybe it's TwT-notes??)

Can you be more specific than "it doesn't work"...

> 3) I get a white background for the treeviewicons - and it doesn't
> look very well on the greyish mainmenu of the philemon theme

Those images *should* have be done as GIF or PNG so that a
'transparent' color can be applied to their backgrounds. If this is
not the case, then the images themselves need to be re-done.

-e

[Mark S.]

I've uploaded a new version to treeview.tiddlyspot.com which replaces
the 3 embedded files for the folder, file, and closed folder. Just
import the 3 tiddlers to get transparent folders, closed folders, and
files. As far as I could tell, all the other icons already have
transparent backgrounds.

However, that won't be enough to fix it. I believe you will need to
tweak the stylesheet where it says

.treeview ul {
background-color:white;
margin-top:4px;
}

to have a background color of your particular shade of gray (rgb(204,
0, 102))

HTH
Mark

[Måns]

Hi Eric

Now I'm almost sure it's not the EditFieldPlugin which isn't working
-
It's me who have forgotten what other plugins I need to stop the
<<edit fields from "freezing" the viewmode - making it impossible to
open a tiddler in editmode..
I thought I had imported all plugins I needed - but maybe I overlooked
a plugin, which needs to be updated..

YS Måns Mårtensson

[Måns]

Thank you very much Mark.
I will try to overwrite the encoded image tiddlers and make the
modifications to the StyleSheet to see what happens.
YS Måns Mårtensson

[Mike]

Has anyone tried using TreeViewPlugin as a replacement for Tagging?
Either in the standard tagging box or on the bottom similar to
TagglyTagging SiteMap Mode?

Plugin Looks Great :D

Mike

[Morris Gray]

> However, that won't be enough to fix it. I believe you will need to
> tweak the stylesheet where it says
>
> .treeview ul {
> background-color:white;
> margin-top:4px;
> }

Perhaps Treeview would be better served with:

background-color:transparent;

Morris

[IainS]

Is the first stage of development on Treeview finalised?

I ask this because if I start to use it and and it is tweaked then it
just wastes my time trying to incorporated the latest ideas. I am
assuming from the posts that things are relatively stable.

What is the best way to download it?

Iain