RE: [Narrow Gate 0] Digest for thenarrowgate@googlegroups.com - 4 Messages in 1 Topic

[DJ G]

Check out Illuminatis New World Order,Rothchids.Deep undergroung military bases;Denver Airport(new) 8 levels below, encampments,upcoming Martial Law,foreign armies in America
FEMA soldirs.It's real.Watch Obama get onstage with Hillary and declare martial law with soldiers standing by. 9/11 buildings were demolishioned.NASa not telling that Wormwood Star is on way!
 

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• Campaign against violence - Why war and why terrorism exists [4 Updates]

 Topic: Campaign against violence - Why war and why terrorism exists

Yochannan <aoyca...@assemblyoftrueisrael.com> Dec 08 06:43PM -0800

 
Charles,
 
The only restoration of the temple, and the city of Jerusalem, having
any historical importance was under Nehemiah as foretold by the
prophet Ezekiel. Any subsequent use of the term "New Jerusalem" in the
book called Revelation, (an NT book having several writers, and which
is an obvious composition and amalgamation of several apocalyptic
writings, popular at the time), is strictly metaphorically and should
always be understood as such.
 
Daniel's prophesy of 70 weeks, was completely fulfilled with the
destruction of Jerusalem, and Herod's third temple under Rome in 70
AD. This was the "End of the World" a metaphor which is talking about
the final destruction of the Kingdom of Yahud, along with the National
identity the Ancient unified nation of Israel that will never again
exist. Israel is however is still a Nation in the diaspora, and is now
numbered in the hundreds of millions. As a dispersed people, True
Israel will never again be able to fit in the old homestead area of
Palestine but will forever be dispersed "among" the nations. Israel is
not made up of the 14 million Jews worldwide. True Israel is a
composite "Family" (a household) of YHWH, whose foundation was laid by
Yahshua. It was Yahshua who came to seek that which was lost. Matt.
18:11, Jer. 50:6. and to announce the Kingdom (Council) of heaven
(YHWH) to first century Israel. Even at the time Israel was already
dispersed among the (non-Israelite) nations.
 
So, back to the basic question of the restoration of Israel: I believe
that True Israel has been in the process of being restored since the
First Century. It is however a "spiritual" restoration, not a physical
restoration. When a believer truly recognizes who he is, what is
required of him to become a member of the "household of YHWH," who the
Creator Father is, what his Creator Father is asking of him, then he
is in the process of being restored (re-born) if you like the term. It
occurs when the believer knows who Yahshua was, that Yahshua was his
brother, and it consummates when the believer is willing to do the
will of the Father as taught by Yahshua. Matt. 7:21, 12:50.
 
The will of the Father, and to become a member of the household
(family of YHWH, and to inherit eternal life, is to keep the
Commandments and to observe the weekly Sabbath. This was also the
entire Covenant YHWH had with Israel. This covenant extends to those
who are True Israelites and to those non-Israelites that are willing
to become the servants of YHWH. Matt. 19:16-17, Isaiah 56.
 
You probably know by now, that I do not accept the NT Greek as "the
inspired" word of YHWH. It does have some historical value in the
Three Synoptic Gospels, which record (by unknown authors) some of the
sayings of Yahshua. I use the same "Bible" that Yahshua used as my
final authority, the Hebrew Scriptures. Over many years I have found
that there is nothing lacking in the Hebrew Scriptures, when correctly
understood and translated. In it we find the key to eternal life, who
we are, and how we should strive to live.
 
The NT Greek has developed into a new religious belief called
"Christianity." This religion has incorporated many primitive pagan
customs and cultures, and has shifted toward worshiping the messenger
(Yahshua) as "God" rather than relying upon the Message that was
taught by Yahshua.
 
Yochannan
 
 
 

Snow <snowp...@eck.net.au> Dec 08 10:19PM -0800

 
>
> most sincerely  Charles
 
The problem with all of this blaming of external forces such as "the
Jews" is that it still doesn't answer the question, Why are WE at war
with Iraq and Afghanistan? Instead of looking at our own value
system, we again lay blame on anybody else.
 

"CHARLES HUFMAN" <rockanr...@msn.com> Dec 09 12:14AM -0700

 
Yochannan:
 
As you know, in my comments I did not refer to the NT, as I discerned
that you would have rejected its premesis about the end of days. this is
why I suggested the Nevi'im. I did not even suggest Daniel which is part
of the Kethuvim. I would suggest that you peruse the last 10 chaps of
Isaiah which talk about the restoration of Jersualem and Israel.........
in the end of days. other than the above, I find I agree with your conclusion
about YHWH and Yeshua. Yeshua's goal was to tell the message about His
FATHER and His FATHER's salvation. this has been watered down through
time as Yeshua's salvation. Yeshua did state that no man can come to the
FATHER unless it is through Him (Yeshua). thank you for sharing your
thoughts as I find we have much more in common that what I earlier
percieved.
 
most sincerely Charles
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From: Yochannan<mailto:aoyca...@assemblyoftrueisrael.com>
To: The Narrow Gate<mailto:thenar...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:43 PM
Subject: [Narrow Gate 4860] Re: Campaign against violence - Why war and why terrorism exists
 
 
Charles,
 
The only restoration of the temple, and the city of Jerusalem, having
any historical importance was under Nehemiah as foretold by the
prophet Ezekiel. Any subsequent use of the term "New Jerusalem" in the
book called Revelation, (an NT book having several writers, and which
is an obvious composition and amalgamation of several apocalyptic
writings, popular at the time), is strictly metaphorically and should
always be understood as such.
 
Daniel's prophesy of 70 weeks, was completely fulfilled with the
destruction of Jerusalem, and Herod's third temple under Rome in 70
AD. This was the "End of the World" a metaphor which is talking about
the final destruction of the Kingdom of Yahud, along with the National
identity the Ancient unified nation of Israel that will never again
exist. Israel is however is still a Nation in the diaspora, and is now
numbered in the hundreds of millions. As a dispersed people, True
Israel will never again be able to fit in the old homestead area of
Palestine but will forever be dispersed "among" the nations. Israel is
not made up of the 14 million Jews worldwide. True Israel is a
composite "Family" (a household) of YHWH, whose foundation was laid by
Yahshua. It was Yahshua who came to seek that which was lost. Matt.
18:11, Jer. 50:6. and to announce the Kingdom (Council) of heaven
(YHWH) to first century Israel. Even at the time Israel was already
dispersed among the (non-Israelite) nations.
 
So, back to the basic question of the restoration of Israel: I believe
that True Israel has been in the process of being restored since the
First Century. It is however a "spiritual" restoration, not a physical
restoration. When a believer truly recognizes who he is, what is
required of him to become a member of the "household of YHWH," who the
Creator Father is, what his Creator Father is asking of him, then he
is in the process of being restored (re-born) if you like the term. It
occurs when the believer knows who Yahshua was, that Yahshua was his
brother, and it consummates when the believer is willing to do the
will of the Father as taught by Yahshua. Matt. 7:21, 12:50.
 
The will of the Father, and to become a member of the household
(family of YHWH, and to inherit eternal life, is to keep the
Commandments and to observe the weekly Sabbath. This was also the
entire Covenant YHWH had with Israel. This covenant extends to those
who are True Israelites and to those non-Israelites that are willing
to become the servants of YHWH. Matt. 19:16-17, Isaiah 56.
 
You probably know by now, that I do not accept the NT Greek as "the
inspired" word of YHWH. It does have some historical value in the
Three Synoptic Gospels, which record (by unknown authors) some of the
sayings of Yahshua. I use the same "Bible" that Yahshua used as my
final authority, the Hebrew Scriptures. Over many years I have found
that there is nothing lacking in the Hebrew Scriptures, when correctly
understood and translated. In it we find the key to eternal life, who
we are, and how we should strive to live.
 
The NT Greek has developed into a new religious belief called
"Christianity." This religion has incorporated many primitive pagan
customs and cultures, and has shifted toward worshiping the messenger
(Yahshua) as "God" rather than relying upon the Message that was
taught by Yahshua.
 
Yochannan
 
 
 
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"CHARLES HUFMAN" <rockanr...@msn.com> Dec 09 12:32AM -0700

 
because Yeshua said there would be wars and rumors of wars but the end
is not yet. these wars are just a crazy reaction to a couple of towers falling
because a nation was to nieve to realize the threat of a religion that believes
its mission is to clean the world up of infidels so that the 7th Imam can return
to usher in a period of peace.
 
most sincerely Charles
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Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2009 11:19 PM
Subject: [Narrow Gate 4861] Re: Campaign against violence - Why war and why terrorism exists
 
 
 
 
>
> most sincerely Charles
 
The problem with all of this blaming of external forces such as "the
Jews" is that it still doesn't answer the question, Why are WE at war
with Iraq and Afghanistan? Instead of looking at our own value
system, we again lay blame on anybody else.
 
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[Moderator]

Greetings DJG,

Underlying everything that you mention, real or imagined, is the
ultimate conspiracy theory - that from the author of ALL resistance to
the Truth - the Prince of the Power of the Air, the Whispering
Enchanter - Satan.

~ Moderator

[Snow]

On Dec 10, 3:07 am, DJ G <tropict...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Check out Illuminatis New World Order,Rothchids.Deep undergroung military bases;Denver Airport(new) 8 levels below, encampments,upcoming Martial Law,foreign armies in America
>
> FEMA soldirs.It's real.Watch Obama get onstage with Hillary and declare martial law with soldiers standing by. 9/11 buildings were demolishioned.NASa not telling that Wormwood Star is on way!

I choose not to worry about these things and simply focus on what is
now. Let the wrong forsake their own way and know that YAHWEH is in
control, not me. He will foil all the plans of the wicked and guard
those who trust in him.

Isa 54:16 Behold, I have created the smith that bloweth the coals in
the fire, and that bringeth forth an instrument for his work; and I
have created the waster to destroy.
Isa 54:17 No weapon that is formed against thee shall prosper; and
every tongue that shall rise against thee in judgment thou shalt
condemn. This is the heritage of the servants of YHWH, and their
righteousness is of me, saith YHWH.

Everything has a purpose and in this I trust..

Mat 6:34 “Do not, then, worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow shall have
its own worries. Each day has enough evil of itself.