Thomas Hobbs
Yahwis
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Subject: [Narrow Gate 4876]
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 22:09:49 -0600
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Yochannan
The modern people called "Jews" have nothing to do with the Israelites
of the Scripture that lived in the land of the Philistia (Palestine)
over 2000 years ago.
There is no little god, and there is no big God, there is on one
"Power" named YHWH. (HE IS the only power).
One person cannot die for the sins of another, nor can the innocent be
sacrificed for the guilty (this violates YHWH's law). Human sacrifice
is pagan.
The third Temple will never be rebuilt, the third Temple was
"Herods" (the Edomite's Temple). YHWH does not, and has never dwelt in
a structure made with Human hands.
Animals were killed in ancient times for food, to represent gifts of
value sent by way of fire and smoke by primitive people to their gods,
animals were killed and used as food for the Priests and for payments
made to them for crimes and violations of the law. So were other items
of value, all done in order to make the point, that there was a cost
involved when the laws of the nation (civil or religious) were
violated. In today's age, we also make payments (but we use currency)
if we can't pay, we may spend time in jail, or if the crime is worthy,
the violator may be executed.
There was no such thing as a supreme "sacrifice" since the payment
(currency) or object used as payment cannot be the sacrifice. The
sacrifice was made by the "one that lost the value of the object" for
having committed the violation of the law.
Jews are not the brothers of the Israelites. Jews are a mixture of
Edomites, various other nationalities, Ashkenazi descendants of Noah's
son Japheth, Turkmen, remnants of the Cannanites, and those that hold
to Jewism as their religion. Jewism is a mixture of various cultic
practices, mingled in with ancient Taludim customs, and pagan
cultures.
Yochannan
On Jan 10, 6:26 pm, Yahwis <yah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Thomas, I do have a question and it has to do with who is greater the god with the little 'g' or the god with the big 'G'? I will explain my answer....Since the tribe of Judah is in the land of Israel and are not believers in the death, burial, and resurrection of our Messiah [Eloha or what ever name you pray to] and follow the practices of the Talmud and my answer here is mixed in with the question. When the temple is rebuilt does that mean that we are to pray against those who will be sacrificing the blood of bulls and goats on the altar? As we know that the supreme sacrifice has been offered almost 2000 years ago.....Does these sacrifices mean that we should belittle our brothers [Judah] due to their traditions and practices? So if the god with the big 'G' is telling the god with the little 'g' to sacrifice then who are we to argue or even to pray against him? Now back to what you have sent to me in this message. It is prophesied that these perilous times are coming before us. Read what the big 'G' tells us and comforts us in his word and tells us not to fear as HE is in control..I'm following the god with the 'big G.'
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Yahwis
It is all the tribes collectively all 12 living together is when the birthright name given to Joseph/Ephraim and that name is Israel collectively. For example, the USA has most of the tribes collectively living within its borders and since Ezekeil 38 & 39 speak of the day when Iran, China, Russia and other friends invade Israel -- This does not mean the land of Israel as it points to this country the USA and collectively those other countries such as England, Australia and others. It was the little god that has set up blinders and has deceived many with his deceptions and lies. I hope that you are getting the picture here is that god [little g] has only a short time remaining -- and god with a big 'G' is pulling in his tether slowly.
> Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 08:54:36 -0800
> Subject: Re: [Narrow Gate 4878]
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Yochannan
Yahudah was the name of one of the 12 sons of Ya'aqob (Jacob) renamed
Israel by Yahweh (G-d). The Yahudim were known in Scriptural history
as the people that occupied the "Southern Kingdom" of Yahud, the
Southern portion of the "original" land that was set apart for Israel
(before the dispersion) by Yahweh. As used in the "Modern" English
translated Scriptures, the word 'Jew' is a miss-translated English
word to refer to a Yahudim, a native or inhabitant (which would
include many diverse races and people groups) of those who were living
in the region of Yahud. It is similar as the word 'American' includes
many diverse peoples living in the Country called 'America'. The word
Yahudim most often refers to an advocate or an adherent to the
religion of the Scriptural Yahudi. In some cases it may refer to a
literal descendant of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob/Israel, one of the
descendants of the tribe named after Yahudah, but this would be very
rare.
It is important to remember, that, In the original Scriptures:
it is Yahudah, not Judah
it is Yahudi, not Jews, or Yews, or Iues
it is the religion of Yahudaism, not Judaism, or Jewism
it is the Ancient Kingdom of Yahud, not Judah
it is Yahudim, or Yahudym, (people of any race in the Kingdom of
Yahud) not Judahite
The Hebrew letter "Yowd" (Y) and the "He' (hay) have always been a
part of Yahudah's name, pronounced as"Yah." The Scriptural people of
the tribe of Yahudah carried the name of the Creator Yahweh "Yah." The
word Jew(s), and the word or the word Judaism, does not include the
name of the Almighty Creator (YaH-WeH).
It must also be remembered, that modern dictionary definitions are
based on popular meanings, but that they are not always historical, or
Scriptural and do not always follow correct etymology of the Hebrew,
Aramaic or Greek sounds, or meaning of the word(s). For example: The
Greek word "Ioudaios" does not mean "Jew" or "Jewish" which are only
English developed words dating from the 15th century.
The Greek letter " I " (iota) is pronounced as the " I " in mach-I-ne.
The "o" (is the Greek letter (aw-micron) pronounced as the "o" in l-o-
g it is NOT an English "o" but a different letter altogether in Greek.
Together the first two letters of the Greek word "Io-udaios" are
pronounced in English as "ee-aw." This approximates the Hebrew and
English sound of "Yah" in the Greek tongue.
The Greek letter " u " (upsilon) is pronounced as the " u " in l-u-te.
The " d " (delta) is pronounced as " d " in d-og. The " a " (alpha) is
pronounced as " a " in f-a-ther. These three Greek letters of the
Greek word "Io-uda-ios" are pronounced in English as "oo-dah."
Together it is "ee-aw-oo-dah" or the same as Yahudah in Hebrew.
The Greek letters " io " of the Greek word "Io-uda-io-s" are also
pronounced "ee-aw" (signifies, that the case is plural) The final
"s" (sigma) is commonly used to signal the end of the name in Greek,
since Scriptural Greek did not have punctuation marks.
All-together, the Greek word "Ioudaios" is pronounced as "ee-aw-oo-dah-
ee-aws" similar to Yahudah(s) in plural, is as it should be correctly
transliterated into English from the Greek.
The Greeks simply transliterated the Hebrew word "Yahudah(s)" into the
like-sounding letters of their Greek language. The meaning is
generally one who is a resident of the Southern Kingdom, of any
nationality (a subject), but in some cases it could mean one who is a
literal descendant of Yahudah, depending on context.
Modern Jews are called Jews from their religion which is called
Jewism, or Judaism. There is no relationship of the Jews, by race or
religion, with the Scriptural Yahudi of the tribe of Israel that was
called Yahudah.
Yochannan.
http://assemblyoftrueisrael.com
On Jan 11, 7:17 pm, Yahwis <yah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Interesting comment and aptly stated. In response about Jews and Israelites. Scripture is quite clear that when the mixed multitudes exited Egypt that there were many from each tribe that were counted. Scripture later had each tribe camped with three to the North, 3 to the East, 3 to the South and 3 tribes to the West....Even at Shecham 6 tribes faced Mt Ebal and 6 tribes faced Mt. Gerizim. The Jews are only one tribe of the 13 tribes and were originally from Judea and were called Jews only if they lived in Judea. Now if I was a non Jew living in Judea even I would be called a Jew. What is a Jew today? Collectively it is every one who follows the Torah, feasts and Commandments of YHWH and unfortunately those who follow Judiasim.
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> It is all the tribes collectively all 12 living together is when the birthright name given to Joseph/Ephraim and that name is Israel collectively. For example, the USA has most of the tribes collectively living within its borders and since Ezekeil 38 & 39 speak of the day when Iran, China, Russia and other friends invade Israel -- This does not mean the land of Israel as it points to this country the USA and collectively those other countries such as England, Australia and others. It was the little god that has set up blinders and has deceived many with his deceptions and lies. I hope that you are getting the picture here is that god [little g] has only a short time remaining -- and god with a big 'G' is pulling in his tether slowly.
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> > Subject: Re: [Narrow Gate 4878]
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Yahwis
As for the third temple being built or not built is an matter to be seen in the future. As we understand from reading YHWH's Word the Torah that sacrifices may begin just prior to the construction of the temple in Yahrushalim. It is about this time when several 42 months events begin, the reign of the Muslim Madhi [the anti dude], the troops around Yahrushalim, and the Two witnesses ministry begins....Hopefully we are still talking to help others understand and to make the correct choices through our discussions. Thank you and be blessed in all that you do and importantly be blessed in your coming and going and especially in receiving a blessing from others. As we are all gems and need each other...
> Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 07:18:05 -0800
> Subject: [Narrow Gate 4880] The word Jew is not found in Scripture
> From: aoyca...@assemblyoftrueisrael.com
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bosco
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sacrificed for the guilty (this violates YHWH's law). Human sacrifice
is pagan.
>>While that is true, Yehoshua still sacrificed himself. Maybe not as an offering to Elohim, but for us nontheless. He undid what was done by doing the opposite. With Adam, he sinned, and a life of sin equals death. If true, and scripture seems to indicate that, then the opposite should undo that and scripture appears to say that as well. For the death of perfection equals life. At least, that's how I see it.
Peace.
Ken
On Jan 12, 5:42 pm, Yahwis <yah...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> This is a very nice conversation thank you, -- I am still answering your first post and mixed in some background from your second post. I would like to discuss sacrifices in the last of days soon as that was in your first post. We have determined that the word Jew is a slang word used sometime around the 3rd century to point to a specific group of people. Yudah was the 4th son of Leah and his whole brothers are Reuben, Simeon, Levi, himself, Issachar, Zebulun and Judah and his half brothers Gad and Asher from Zilpah, from Bilpah was his 1/2 brothers Dan and Naphtali and from Rachel was Joseph and Benjamin. The history of Yudah is almost as longs as Joseph's in the collection of books whereas Joseph's story is about his birthright and about his sons descendants [Efraim and Mannnaseh or the ten tribes] in the latter days as well as the tribe of Yudah's descendants in the latter days.
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> As for the third temple being built or not built is an matter to be seen in the future. As we understand from reading YHWH's Word the Torah that sacrifices may begin just prior to the construction of the temple in Yahrushalim. It is about this time when several 42 months events begin, the reign of the Muslim Madhi [the anti dude], the troops around Yahrushalim, and the Two witnesses ministry begins....Hopefully we are still talking to help others understand and to make the correct choices through our discussions. Thank you and be blessed in all that you do and importantly be blessed in your coming and going and especially in receiving a blessing from others. As we are all gems and need each other...
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> > Subject: [Narrow Gate 4880] The word Jew is not found in Scripture
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