RE: [Narrow Gate 0] Digest for thenarrowgate@googlegroups.com - 1 Message in 1 Topic

[DJ G]

Where is the passage in the bible about the nuclear war coming you sent?Also 9/11 predicted in bible;Palms 11(number sign of the illuminatis) "Their" in parenthesis(who is their, govt?) shoot at upright in heart.Could the upright be a term used to describe a building and in the heart of the building was where the planes hit.Then "if the foundations be destroyed(note ,plural as in two)what can the rightous(the American people out of the loop)do". Psalms 23, "as I walk through the valley of the shadow of death"
After Hiroshima was nuked they reported peoples shadows superimposed on walls like a flash from a camera on film,could this be the meaning of this?
 

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• Campaign against violence - Why war and why terrorism exists [1 Update]

 Topic: Campaign against violence - Why war and why terrorism exists

Yochannan <aoyca...@assemblyoftrueisrael.com> Dec 05 01:36PM -0800

 
It might be true, that all war is based upon deception (it certainly
includes deception), but in my understanding, war is also the result
of poor and inept leadership. It is caused by greed; a pretext for
invading another sovereign state; an excuse to develop private,
corporate, an/or personal wealth. War is also commonly used to effect
changes in customs, cultures and the religions of countries deemed
inferior to what the superior power dictates as most desirable to
their own self interests, the latter has become quit evident in the
war in Afghanistan and Iraq.
 
The war in Iraq and Afghanistan has also become "Christianity's"
struggle against "Islam" since it has become a popular but mistaken
belief, that Islam is an inferior belief to that of Christianity. The
truth is, these religions are exclusive, that is, Christianity accepts
no other religious concepts as valid, and Islam does likewise. Where
Islam is a "pure" monotheistic religious belief system, Christianity
has developed into a "compromised" monotheistic religious belief
system. Christianity promotes the concept of a one true God that is
expressed into the three distinct persons. This concept that is not
reconcilable to someone having the pure monotheistic concept of the
God that names Himself YHWH in the Hebrew Scriptures. The extreme
elements on both these religious systems would love to wipeout a
billion or more of those adhering to the other system from the face of
the earth. Not a day goes by that I do not hear a Christian voicing
contempt against the belief of a Muslim. I suppose the opposite is
also true, but I have not had the opportunity to confirm this.
 
Fanaticism is found in all major religions, not just in Islam.
Christianity (and its need to "convert" the globe) is one of those
religions that have extremists on the far right. Christianity is
directly responsible for the death of millions of people throughout
the last 2000 years. This I believe it is one of the reasons the
extreme wing of Islam is at war with the Government of the United
States. It seems that some people just do not "appreciate" the moral
standards that have come about through "Christianity" and I can't
blame them. Further more, the United States has become a "Democracy"
and who wants to live in a Democracy? I don't. According to our
Constitution, (the by-laws for our Federal Corporate Government), we
are a "Representative Republic," NOT a Democracy. No Country in the
history of the world has ever, nor could ever survive as a true
"Democracy."
 
The real root of the terrorism problem is, that we, the Western
Nations of the World have not been able to control the Jews, who have
used our good will, and our money to steel, and rob their neighbors
with US supplied arms, and US built war machines. The Christian
ignorance of who these so-called Jews the "chosen people" really are,
have led to a convoluted support for a people group that are united
only by their religious belief of Jewism, and by their hate for anyone
else (including the Christian). Jewism has nothing to do with the
Ancient religious belief of our Hebrew forefathers, nor does
Christianity for that matter. The prophet Yahshua was never a
Christian, and never used the New Testament Greek Bible. Yahshua was a
pure monotheist, a believer in the God of the Hebrew Scriptures named
YHWH. Yahshua was therefore a Yahwist, one who believes (like the
Muslim) in ONE true "God." Ultimately then, it is the policy of the
United States Government, supported by the convoluted Christian
mentality in this country (to protect the so-called "chosen people")
that has helped keep us in war in the middle East. It is this extended
policy to convert (and force by power of arms) the religious systems
and the moral standards of those with whom we disagree, into what we
may determine to be fit. It is the United States Government and it's
miss-directed foreign policy (our support for the wicked Jewish State
called Israel) that fosters the real cause of Terrorism World Wide,
 
What we see happening today did not begin on 9-11, it is the result of
US Government actions that date back at least 60 years and to the
Creation of State of Israel. Atrocities against ones fellow man, or
against ones neighbor is never justified. Yet it is not the
responsibility of the United States Government to change the form of
other Governments, or the religion of the people that hold to
particular beliefs, simply by a force of arms. Would we as a people
want to be forced to worship the Buddha? After all, we are now the
real property of Communist Red China since our wonderful Communist
trading partner has become the master holder of indebtedness. As they
say, the debtor is always the slave of the lender.
 
The payback against the United States in the 9-11 twin tower NYC
destruction, was in fact a retaliation against the United States
Government for permitting the Jews (State of Israel) to act against
Lebanon in 1982 by destroying the "Twin Towers" located in Lebanon.
This 9-11 act instigated by Bin Laden was simply a long over-due
retaliation against the United States for picking a side, supporting
the Jewish State against the Palestinian people. "A friend of my enemy
is my enemy." Largely due to its attempt to manipulate the customs,
culture, standards of other sovereign nations, the United States is
seen as the world bully, and therefore has become the basic root cause
of world terrorism. The United States instigates one side against
another by direct influence and military support for the one, many
times resulting in the deaths of hundreds of thousands of people that
are innocent of any wrongdoing on both sides a the resulting
conflict.
 
In videotape broadcast by the Al-Jazeera network on Oct. 29, 2004, Bin
Laden said he got the idea for destroying the Twin Towers in NYC as a
young man watching the devastation wrought on Lebanon during the
United States-backed invasion. "When I saw those destroyed towers in
Lebanon," bin Laden said, "it sparked in my mind that the oppressors
should be punished in the same way and that we should destroy towers
in America - so they can taste what we tasted and so they stop killing
our women and children." The rest is now history, but could have been
prevented by the correct United States Policy.
 
This was a good example of delayed Arab re-payment for an injustice
brought about by America's support for the Jew. Oppression fosters
terrorism, retribution and resistance against the oppressor. This is a
given result that the arms of war will never overcome or correct. This
being the case, changes from the status quo must be made in American
foreign policy. The changes must contribute toward eliminating the
basic need for any future conflict, or acts of terrorism against
people regardless of their color, custom, culture or religion, or how
they may differ from us.
 
A Palestinian State MUST be created, and it cannot contain "isolated
islands of land with dense populations" subject to the complete
control of Jews. Because it is in fact isolated land, a land island,
the Gaza Strip must become part of the State of Israel. In return
Israel must give much of its stolen northern territory and the West
Bank to make room for the new Palestinian State. The Palestinian State
must become a viable State. The resulting smaller Jewish State will
have equal opportunity for success and independence, but no more that
the Palestinian State. The Jews must be disarmed from their weapons of
mass destruction, and an embargo on the Jews must be placed to avoid
continued hostilities against their neighbors. As American, British,
and French people, we must see that this becomes a reality.
 
The change of leadership in the Government of America (Obama
Presidency) is the perfect opportunity to FORCE THESE CHANGES on both
the Jews, and the Palestinians. If the situation between these two
peoples is not corrected terrorism and hatred will NOT be corrected,
and those that support the Jew will continue to be subject to acts of
hatred. It is that important. The conflict between the Jew, and the
Arab is the direct cause for terrorism against any State that
continues to support the Jew and their agenda for world control. It is
high time for Americans to recognize that Jews are not the friends of
the American People. Jews are not friends of any people on the Globe.
The American F-14 fighter jets, the Apache helicopters, their rockets,
and smart bombs, are the only friends Jews have with the American
people. Take away the billions of annual dollars of U.S. support, the
weapons of mass destruction that they have acquired from us, and their
friendship to America will disappear overnight.
 
Jews unfortunately, have been very successful in manipulating control
over the American people through their vast influence in the Christian
community and in United States Government. They control of all major
American News Networks, and Television, and control the American
Banking industry, the Federal Reserve Banks and other major world
currencies. The Jews in fact, invented "printed" fiat currency that is
now used as money, and Jews own the Private Federal Reserve Banking
system of the United States.
 
Contrary to the understanding of Christians, Jews are imposters to the
Scriptural Israelites. They are not related in any way to the Ancient
Israelites by their religion or otherwise. It is high time that this
truth is recognized. The only claim the Jew has to any land in
Palestine is from the original League of Nations (UN) mandate 60-years
ago. This was put together by European nations that wanted to rid the
Jew from Europe by dumping them on the people of Palestine at the
request of British Zionist Jews.
 
As long as arms and financial support from the United States continues
to flow to the Jew, the Jews will continue to oppress and kill their
neighbors. The Western European nations and we as Americans will
continue to be subject to hatred violence and possible retribution by
those that are oppressed due to our Government policies.
 
Yochannan
 

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"Contrary to the understanding of Christians, Jews are imposters to
the
Scriptural Israelites. They are not related in any way to the Ancient
Israelites by their religion or otherwise. It is high time that this
truth is recognized."

"Jew" is the modern short form of Judah. And last I checked, "Judah"
was one of only two groups to be included in the renewed covenant cut
through the blood of Yehoshua(Jer. 31/Heb. 8). Second, GOD placed a
veil over Judah:

2Co 3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth
the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old covenant; which
vail is done away in Christ.
2Co 3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon
their heart. <<<<
2Co 3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall
be taken away.

And seeing Judah's eyes will be opened to Yehoshua (see Zech 12:9-10
as ONE example of many) when it is their TIME to have their eyes
opened, their additions to Torah and blindness to it will be taken
away. Judah is on a path to the Kingdom, we are on a path to the
Kingdom. Two paths, two witnesses of the same destination... two
"conflicting" witnesses of the same destination. According to Torah,
conflicting witnesses are better witnesses, and these two witnesses,
who both ultimately will go through Messiah and reach the same
destination making us BROTHERS, witnesses to... prove... the Kingdom
is a reality.

Shalom.
Ken

[Moderator]

Well said Ken.

The text you quoted was written by Yochannan under another topic, but
it brings to light his belief that the 'Jews' of today are not in any
way related by blood to the tribe of Yahudah in Scripture.

And Yochannan - a very well-written post. I don't agree with your
position and neither does history. Do you not know that the area now
known as Jordan was originally "Trans-Jordan" (across-Jordan) and was
to be THE Palestinian State? What happened? The same thing that has
always happened when Yisrael has tried to compromise and trade land
for peace.

~ Moderator