Helen Duncan

[Michael Prescott]

Read some of "Helen Duncan: The Mystery Show Trial." The book is extensively researched but very poorly written, overlong, and printed in the smallest typeface I've seen. I doubt I'll read all of it, but so far my takeaway is that the Duncan case is just baffling. If you believe some witnesses, she was an obvious fake. If you believe others, she produced phenomena that even the most expert stage magician could not possibly duplicate. I used to think it was pretty cut-and-dried, but now I don't know what happened, and I doubt I will ever know - it's one of those cases that will always be controversial. 

[Paul]

I must confess I find it difficult to reach a conclusion on Helen Duncan. The reports of the trial are very interesting. It seems to me it might have been very risky to have offered the court a demonstration if she knew she was fraudulent.

[Art]

Can I be honest?  I'm not that impressed or that interested in physical Mediumship.   It seems so silly to me.  I don't see the purpose of it?   It's not like it's that evidential of life after death, not in the same way that information that validates who the person speaking is, stuff about their personal life.   I've heard John Edward and George Anderson say some things that I was like "Wow!" when I heard it.   I litterally shook my head wondering where that information came from.   Now that impresses me.  

I don't dismiss all Mediumship stuff but sometimes they say things that contradict what I believe NDE's and the holographic universe connection tell me about the other side.  Like the "all knowledge" thing.  An awful lot of NDE's imply that after we cross over we will be connected and that it will be like having the entire internet available just by focusing our attention on it.   Whatever we think about that is what we will experience.  NDE's and what some Mediums say contradict one another.   So each one of us has to make up their own mind about what they want to believe.  - Art

[Michael Soucy]

Hello Art, 

I just wanted to chime in with some mention of my experiences with a physical medium.  The medium I sat with was a close personal friend who was working on developing her abilities in physical mediumship.  She was also a mental medium as well.  She does not do public sittings and since I know her so well any kind of trickery is out of the question.  I found my experiences very meaningful from a personal-spiritual point of view.  Personally experiencing materially un-explainable phenomenon  goes a long way in changing your world view!  Also I would note that there was a significant mixture of different types of phenomenon; physical interactions, lights and voices as well as personal visions as well as some of the more familiar mental mediumship thrown in.

Mike

[Art]

Michael Soucy, here is a great article referring to what you are talking about.  It's called "Indra's Net".   I love this article! 

The conscious universe - part one

Posted on Monday, 17 October, 2011 | 3 comments
Columnist: Brendan D. Murphy

"Some 2,500 years ago the Buddhist text, the Avatamsaka Sutra, described the cosmos allegorically through the imagery of Indra’s net. In the heavenly abode of the deity Indra, there was cast an infinite net reaching in all directions, and at each node point in the net there was a jewel, each reflecting the light of all the others—infinitely. Should any jewel be touched, each of the infinite other jewels would instantly be affected, presaging Bell’s theorem that everything is interconnected in this interdependent universe. The Buddhist vision essentially describes a holographic universe—our holographic universe. In The Tao of Physics, Capra explains the relevance of Indra’s net to particle physics, stating that “particles are dynamically composed of one another in a self-consistent way, and in that sense can be said to ‘contain’ one another.” This is a principle of the hologram: that each part contains within it the information that codes for the whole. In other words, all information fundamentally exists nonlocally, infinitely reflected in all the facets of existence."

You can read the whole article here.  The above is just the beginning..... 

http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=216073

Art