The battle continue: Ackman vs Herbalife , kebaikan vs kejahatan?

[David Kuntadi]

Dua hedge fund manager mengambil posisi berlawanan dengan Ackman,
yaitu Dan Loeb (8% or over 8 milliong shares ) dan Carl Icahn (13% or
over 14 million shares).
Sehingga, dari segi pasar, maka tindakan Ackman men-short 20 juta
saham sudah terimbangi bahkan dilampaui oleh dua Hedge Fund manager
yang mengambil posisi "long".
Harga saham Herbalife menjadi naik turun tak menentu, apalagi dengan
adanya issue bahwa FTC sudah mulai menginvestigasi Herbalife, yang
kemudian dikoreksi sebagai salah intepretasi surat dari FTC.

Ketika saya coba baca sendiri surat dari FTC, memang betul bahwa surat
tersebut cuma mengatakan bahwa ada2 data2 yang tidak bisa diberikan ke
publik berkenaan dengan komplen kepada herbalife atas permintaan yang
komplen. Tulisan tersebut telah disalahartikan sebagai FTC sedang
melakukan investigasi tapi masih dirahasiakan.

Namun ketika saya baca2 sekilas surat tersebut di FTC (hanya sekilas
karena surat tsb 716 halaman !! ), terbaca ada dua komplen yang
menarik, yaitu dari Herbalife distributor. Yang satu merupakan top
level yang dinamakan Presidents Team, yang kedua Tabulator Team. Yang
pertama "baru" bergabung selama 12 tahun, yang ke dua sudah 20 tahun.
Dua2nya mengajukan komplain mensupport Ackman dan berani bersaksi
terhadap herbalife.

Silahkan baca sendiri kutipan di bawah, atau kalau mau baca 716
halaman mengenai komplen terhadap herbalife bisa download di link di
bawah.

Menurut anda, apakah kebaikan akan selalu menang atau terkadang justru
kejahatan yang akan langgeng?

DK
Note: pada short terdahulu terhadap MBIA, Ackman memerlukan waktu 7
tahun sebelum prediksinya terwujud. Sedangkan menurut Ackman, prediksi
mengenai Herbalife akan terwujud lebih singkat dari itu.


Halaman 710

Reference 42522454 Entry Date: 12/27/2012


I was with Herbalife International for 12 years. I was one of the few
people that achieved one of the top levels in
the company (less than 1 of all distributors) called Presidents Team.
I have a document received from Herbalile
that shows Herbalife pays royally and production bonuses on sales
volume completely unrelated to retail
customers. This does substantiate Bill Ackmans claim that Herbalife is
a illegal pyramid scheme. How do Ilile
this with FTCs legal department? UPDATE: 12/27f2012 Consumer wants to
send an excel file to FTC. LMaruca


Halaman 708 Entry Date: 1/3/2013


Reference 42590223


I had been part of what Herbalife calls Tabulators Team and was with
the company for almost 20 years, I have
witnessed several injustices from the company to its distributors
since the death of the founder and with no way
for an "Independent Distributor" to get any justice from the damage
the company inflicts to them and that is why I
am providing information that might aid in your research of the
Herbalife Ltd Company as they are "Fooling
Some of the People All of the Time". 1.- How much of the sales that
you'd make in terms of final sales are sold
outside the network and how much are consumed within the distributor
base? There are not real sales outside
the network The Nutrition Club Clubs originated precisely out of the
NECESSITY to try to move some product.
The product is very overpriced and thats what gave way to the
nutrition clubs, distributors having to break down
the products in servings to to be able to sale it because the
CUSTOMERS REFUSED to buy whole canisters and
bottles. What is happening now is customers stopped buying canisters
and bottles and distributors are barely
covering their monthly quota just to support the pyramid without
making any money. (Fouders Circle Members,
Chirmans Club Members and Executive Presidents Team Members ARE NOT
SELLING ANY PRODUCT
OUTSIDE THE NETWORK, they just buy the product from the company and
donate it to some charity (Herbalife
Houses from the Herbalife family foundation, etc) DISTRIBUTORS DO NOT
GET PAID "ROYALTIES" UNLESS
THEY BUY $2,500.00 OF PRODUCTS EVERY SINGLE MONTH, and to protect
themselves they have a so
called 70 Customer Rule in case regulators or people like you start
asking questions. That is why HLF says they
dont have an exact percentage because they know very well what is
going on and not because HLF does not
have visibility to that level of detail. Also from time to time HLF
will impose hefty fines to its distributors in an
effort to not pay royalties and keep this earnings for their bottom
line and even go as far as to suspend its
distributors and not pay to the upline the proper amount of royalties
(AS THEY ARE THE ONES WHO
CALCULATE THE PAYMENTS WITHOUT ANY OUTSIDE OVERSIGHT TO THE WHOLE
PROCESS) and if a
distributor inquires about it, he or she might get fined or suspended.
2.- What is the incentive for supervisor to
sign somebody up to become a distributor as opposed to - if they're
just going to consume for themselves as
opposed to just selling them the product for the markup. How does the
distributor - how does the supervisor
come out better? There is no incentive other than "new distributors"
helping to support the Ponzi scheme. HLF
definitely is a Ponzi scheme with very high legal bills (Herbalife has
been ruled an illegal pyramid scheme by a
court in Belgium) and a fraudulent operation that pays returns to its
DISTRIBUTORS from their own
"PURCHASE" of the "PRODUCTS" paid by subsequent DISTRIBUTORS, rather
than from profit earned by the
"SELL" of the "PRODUCTS", HLFS Ponzi scheme usually entices new
DISTRIBUTORS by offering higher
profits, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally
high or unusually consistent. DISTRIBUTORS
DO NOT GET PAID UNLESS THEY BUY $2,500.00 OF PRODUCTS EVERY SINGLE
MONTH, on ebay,
amazon and craigslist you will find thousands of distributors trying
to unload their inventory. I hope this helps and
if I can provide any additional information please do not hesitate to contact me

http://www.ftc.gov/foia/frequentrequests/1301herbalifecmpts.pdf