Canon HV20 questions...

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René Borroto

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Jun 4, 2008, 8:08:05 PM6/4/08

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I wanted to respond immediately to this post from Tim because I want to make sure no one in our group gets ripped off by internet scam artists posing as legitimate electronics dealers.

If you want a Canon HV30 (next model up from the HV20, can shoot 30p as well, not much else different), which is a great little camera, go to B&H or Amazon, or a local retailer, even if it's $800, the going price these days. Amazon will give you free shipping and no sales tax.

Retailers claiming they'll sell it online for ridiculous prices are SCAMS. Here's a couple of links with more info:

http://www.amazon.com/tag/digital%20camera/forum?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2YR3CD9165C4&cdThread=Tx39EZ9TFWY14OD

There are a handful of dealers with over a dozen websites that are total ripoff artists, bait and switch scammers, and scumbags that belong in JAIL. Once a website gets known for being a scam, they close it and open another one with a different name.

BE CAREFUL!!

René Borroto

Senior Editor

Multivision Video & Film

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Alan R. Levy BSP

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I've always liked B&H, because they do what they say they will and have been very gracious with returns. There are a lot of other places, but be careful because some of them will try high pressure to up sell you other items that you may not need or want.

I shoot on a V1U and take the HDMI out into an HD-Connect MI, this converts it to HD-SDI. I then go in to FCP via an AJA LHe board. It converts it to ProRes 422. The footage looks great and is easy to work with. It does require a bit more storage than HDV though.

Good Luck...Alan

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On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Tim Baker wrote:

Alan R. Levy BSP

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Couldn't agree more. I was being nice about it. But René said it better.

Alan R. Levy

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On Jun 4, 2008, at 8:08 PM, René Borroto wrote:

I wanted to respond immediately to this post from Tim because I want to make sure no one in our group gets ripped off by internet scam artists posing as legitimate electronics dealers.

If you want a Canon HV30 (next model up from the HV20, can shoot 30p as well, not much else different), which is a great little camera, go to B&H or Amazon, or a local retailer, even if it's $800, the going price these days. Amazon will give you free shipping and no sales tax.

Retailers claiming they'll sell it online for ridiculous prices are SCAMS. Here's a couple of links with more info:

http://www.resellerratings.com/forum/merchant-discussion-shopping-advice/131573-86th-street-photo.html

http://www.amazon.com/tag/digital%20camera/forum?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2YR3CD9165C4&cdThread=Tx39EZ9TFWY14OD

There are a handful of dealers with over a dozen websites that are total ripoff artists, bait and switch scammers, and scumbags that belong in JAIL. Once a website gets known for being a scam, they close it and open another one with a different name.

BE CAREFUL!!

René Borroto
Senior Editor
Multivision Video & Film
305-662-6011
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www.multivisionvideo.com

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Brooks Reid

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Jun 4, 2008, 8:16:05 PM6/4/08

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Dave,

I order another bracket from Armstrong for the boat ladder. The first
one they sent was not cut for the transom angle. They are sending
another and I'll return this one for credit. Today Scott and I got
the old bracket off. It's a hard job because the bolts are very hard
to get to and require a socket extension about 3 feet long to reach
it. Since the bracket side was sheared off and the bolts were bent, I
had to use Vice Grips to get the old bolts out after we extracted the
nuts from the inside. All went well and I'm awaiting the new bracket
spacer and plate.
I also mounted a spring hatch holder, similar to the live well, on
the front console hatch for the ice chest were the drinks go. That
was also a success and now the hatch lid stays open when you raise it.
I pulled both batteries out for better access to the transom ladder
bracket and since I have them out I am going to check them and charge
them up. Filled and topped off the oil tanks in the bilge to full
level and touched up some wiring in the bilge area and cleaned. I
still have some oil in the bilge from last summer's repairs.
Fixed the live well pump
Fixed the washdown pump
Oil reserved tank problem fixed.

Next I'm fixing some of the snaps on the cushions and installing the
front boot cover. It will be a nice place to get out of the sun and
rest.
A pain when you want to fight fish or cast from the front.

Got the cast net out and I'll be practicing in the back yard.

Seeya

Brooks

On Jun 4, 2008, at 10:16 PM, Tim Baker wrote:

Tim Baker

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Jun 5, 2008, 12:10:55 AM6/5/08

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Hey all...thanks for the confirmation...just way too much price disparity.

You have all been a great help and I will call Brooks and he is going to offer some good insight off list...you all are awesome.

Tim Baker

President/CEO

Chameleon Media Productions, Inc.

Race Fan Media

On Jun 4, 2008, at 5:08 PM, René Borroto wrote:

I wanted to respond immediately to this post from Tim because I want to make sure no one in our group gets ripped off by internet scam artists posing as legitimate electronics dealers.

If you want a Canon HV30 (next model up from the HV20, can shoot 30p as well, not much else different), which is a great little camera, go to B&H or Amazon, or a local retailer, even if it's $800, the going price these days. Amazon will give you free shipping and no sales tax.

Retailers claiming they'll sell it online for ridiculous prices are SCAMS. Here's a couple of links with more info:

http://www.resellerratings.com/forum/merchant-discussion-shopping-advice/131573-86th-street-photo.html

http://www.amazon.com/tag/digital%20camera/forum?_encoding=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2YR3CD9165C4&cdThread=Tx39EZ9TFWY14OD

There are a handful of dealers with over a dozen websites that are total ripoff artists, bait and switch scammers, and scumbags that belong in JAIL. Once a website gets known for being a scam, they close it and open another one with a different name.

BE CAREFUL!!

René Borroto
Senior Editor
Multivision Video & Film
305-662-6011
re...@multivisionvideo.com
www.multivisionvideo.com

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Rene Borroto

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Jun 4, 2008, 9:10:19 PM6/4/08

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Our thanks to Brooks for the boat repair update, he he, way off topic.

Rene

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Subject: [SoFlaFCPUG] Re: Canon HV20 questions...

Brooks Reid

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Jun 4, 2008, 9:45:55 PM6/4/08

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Sorry everybody for this post. It was suppose to be personal about an
upcoming fishing trip.

Brooks Reid
Air Time Design Productions
Miami, FL

Alan R. Levy BSP

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Jun 4, 2008, 9:49:49 PM6/4/08

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When, where and who's bringing the beer?

Alan R. Levy

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Brooks Reid

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Jun 4, 2008, 10:03:16 PM6/4/08

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Hey Alan I'll bring the beer if you'll pay for gas :-)

OK, so far I've sent personals about my Hammond organ obsession and
my boating repairs.
I've got to be more careful or I might REALLY get myself in trouble!

Brooks

Marian Wertalka

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Jun 5, 2008, 12:34:06 AM6/5/08

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No worries, it was fun. Let's pass the hat for gas! ;-)

Last year the group was raffling off Blackmagic Intensity Pro PCIe
cards. They have HDMI in. If you have a Mac Pro tower, that might be
an option.

Marian
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Brooks Reid

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Jun 5, 2008, 2:16:59 AM6/5/08

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HV30 is $771 at Amazon.

Brooks

Brooks Reid

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Jun 5, 2008, 2:51:46 AM6/5/08

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In response to Tim's inquiry I'm going to post a couple of workflow solutions for the Canon HV20/30 and 24P. First is an older post from Video Guru Allan Tepper. Much thanks to Allan for this post. The second is a post from a very informative website called

http://www.hv20.com

Brooks

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Allen Tepper Info

24P 60i to 24P for film out

Create a new HDV 1080/30p sequence. Call the sequence Capture only and capture clips

Export all captured clips to ProRes422 to a folder on your media drive you’ll remember later.

Save and quit FCP.

Open the first clip in Cinema Tools using File>Open Clip. (Cinema Tools comes with FInal Cut Studio.)

Click on the Reverse Telecine button

Select F1-F2.

Click New (smaller).

Select 23.98 in the pulldown menu, since Apple abbreviated to 2 decimals :)

Check where it says Standard upper/lower.

Select Style 2 in the pulldown menu.

Select C2D1 in the radio button.

File>Save as... Remove the .rev suffix to overwrite the original file.

Quit Cinema Tools and re-launch FCP.

Create a new “1080/24p” ProRes422 sequence. Name this new sequence Edit or something like that.

Tim Baker

Brooks Reid

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Jun 5, 2008, 1:56:34 PM6/5/08

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This post is a follow up for Tim and others who want to see what is
possible with a small consumer camera like the Canon HV20/30.
Here is a link to a YouTube clip from Tony Reale who has tricked out
his Canon HV30 for film type work with rails system, Matt Box w
French Flag, DOF adapter, 35mm Lens, 7" VGA Widescreen LCD monitor w
hood, upgraded shotgun mic, Shoulder mount, hand grips, power supply,
etc. This is a 2 part video so look for part 2 in the youtube sidebar.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAEKUo71lFQ&feature=related

Also anyone interested in DIY DOF adapters here is a great link

http://www.jetsetmodels.info/news.htm

Brooks

Tim Baker

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Jun 5, 2008, 5:14:48 PM6/5/08

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That is amazing! I just wish he would give us some closeups to see how everything is tied together.

Very nice.

Tim Baker

President/CEO

Chameleon Media Productions, Inc.

Race Fan Media

Brooks Reid

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Jun 5, 2008, 4:14:41 PM6/5/08

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As a matter of fact, I dropped him an email thanking him for the
video and suggested he add cutaway close ups. I'm in the process of
assembling a list of the products he is using, options and retailers.
Some of the manufacture names he mentions are sometimes hard to
understand.
Like the rail system manufacture Cinevate and the monitor Lilliput.
Others are Mayflash component to RGC adapter and Brevis which is the
DOF adapter.

Brooks

Alan R. Levy BSP

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Jun 5, 2008, 5:03:36 PM6/5/08

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>>> Hello Everyone,

I recently shot a quick green screen video for a client. It's a short
deal with a spokesperson talking to camera. It's one take, no cuts.
My client now has asked if i can output with the green screen
replaced by an alpha channel so they can key on a web site.

I used the chroma-key filter, keyed out the green screen, it looks
nice. I exported with the animation codec and when I imported the
file back into FCP, it has the alpha and keys fine. My problem is
that the file is close to 1 gb in size. Is there a better (and
smaller file size) way to do this?

Thanks...Alan

Tim Baker

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Jun 5, 2008, 8:47:21 PM6/5/08

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Just a thought...I do this all the time...contact or have them contact the web designer and get the exact specs that he needs to work with and how he wants the video output. You can make points with the old client by saving them a step and it will expidite them getting the video on their website.

It is so much easier to go to the end user on stuff like this and find out how they need it in order to work with it.

Just a thought...but works for me.

Tim Baker

President/CEO

Chameleon Media Productions, Inc.

Race Fan Media

Alan R. Levy BSP

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Jun 5, 2008, 6:02:08 PM6/5/08

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Great idea. I have spoken with their web guru and all he knows is that it has to have an alpha. I had a thought though. Because they don't need a full size image, I'm going to try and scale the size down on the timeline, and then output it as an animation codec.

I'll keep you posted.

Alan

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