Final

[Michael Treves]

Instead of ranting about how we will miss each other, can we please get back to business. Are the only differences between fermentation and cellular respiration, fermentation occurs when there is little oxygen available and has a net of 2 ATP, while cellular respiration occurs when there is oxygen available and has a net of at least 36 ATPs?

[Helena Ord]

I love how no one is responding to this email xDDDDDDDD

[Kruthi Isola]

WHY ARE YOU ASKING US?? You're the SMART one (ASK SADIK!!)

[Jesse Chen]

i second kruthi's motion. all in favor, say yay, all opposed nay. x]

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[Kruthi Isola]

Yeah...I think becauseyou can mke more ATP if you have more oxygen?? So, since fermentation has little to NO oxygen...its going to make less ATP, while cellular respiration uses oxygen, so it makes more ATP?? Am I right? Or am I wrong?

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Treves <treves....@gmail.com> wrote:

[Kruthi Isola]

Also, NADH and NADPH do the same thing, right? They create ATP?? Do plants produce the same amount of ATP (using photosynthesis) as animals do (using cellular respiration)?? or not?

[Helena Ord]

AHHHHHHHHHHH *bio overdose*

[Michael Treves]

Did we go over linkage groups in genetics?

[Helena Ord]

yes, briefly, I believe.

[Shahidain]

Sorry I did not respond to Michael's question, but fermentation is way different that cellular respiration. It occurs when oxygen is not available, because oxygen is the final electron acceptor, at the end of the electron transport chain proteins in the cristae. So, after glycolysis occurs in the cytoplasm (giving 2 ATP), the cell takes the 2 new pyruvate and breaks them down into 2 lactate, coupled with NADH turning into NAD+, which can be used for glycolysis again. This form of fermentation happens in most cells, like muscle cells, but in yeast cells, the pyruvate is turned into ethyl alcohol and carbond dioxide. 

[Michael Treves]

So basically what I originally said except, you gave more detail to it.

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 6:58 PM, Shahidain <shah...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry I did not respond to Michael's question, but fermentation is way different that cellular respiration. It occurs when oxygen is not available, because oxygen is the final electron acceptor, at the end of the electron transport chain proteins in the cristae. So, after glycolysis occurs in the cytoplasm (giving 2 ATP), the cell takes the 2 new pyruvate and breaks them down into 2 lactate, coupled with NADH turning into NAD+, which can be used for glycolysis again. This form of fermentation happens in most cells, like muscle cells, but in yeast cells, the pyruvate is turned into ethyl alcohol and carbon dioxide. 

[Shahidain]

There are tons of differences! If a cell goes into fermentation the prepatory reaction(Transition reaction) cannot occur and create the Acetyl-CoA , then that cannot enter the citric acid cycle, and the end products of the Krebs cycle are never created so they cannot enter the Electron Transport Chain. 

[Phoebe Hanna]

um... i don't mean to interupt your "Science tell-off" but don't forget that we have a review tomorrow afterchool, it'll be a good catch-up for most of us. Obviously, Sadik over here doesnt ned it, I on the other hand, am in trouble. xD

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Phoebe Hanna