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Ian Wojtowicz

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Sep 26, 2011, 5:45:49 PM9/26/11
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Has development on ShiftSpace 1.0 stopped completely? What's its
current status? Are you guys recommending another system instead?

If there isn't another better system out there, how can we kick this
back into development?

It pains me not to be able to edit/annotate some of the nonsense I
read on websites.

Dan Phiffer

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Oct 3, 2011, 10:13:51 AM10/3/11
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Yeah, development is pretty much stopped completely.

Mushon has a good collection of related links bookmarked here:
http://delicious.com/mushonz/metaweb

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Mushon Zer-Aviv

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Oct 3, 2011, 11:50:35 AM10/3/11
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:(

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Ian Wojtowicz

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Oct 3, 2011, 11:55:14 AM10/3/11
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Looks like markup.io is the replacement service.

You guys should be proud of making a classic piece of software.
ShiftSpace will go down in history books.

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Ian Wojtowicz

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Oct 3, 2011, 11:55:37 AM10/3/11
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Are you working on any new projects?

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Mushon Zer-Aviv

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Oct 3, 2011, 12:13:41 PM10/3/11
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Some of us are actually working on similar attempts, but since there's a core disagreement about how to move forward these newer experiments would probably not happen under the ShiftSpace umbrella. This is probably a good thing.

Are you interested in metaweb development yourself?

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Dan Phiffer

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Oct 3, 2011, 12:16:02 PM10/3/11
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Maybe one way I'd describe ShiftSpace development right now is it's on holiday. It's reflecting and resting. I would still love to see it thrive in some form...

But I'd be curious to hear what everyone is up to these days! I know Mushon has been busy with Project Yotam as well as the Wikipedia Illustrated project...

Personally, I've just finished work on a project that uses an independent wifi base station to rich media to an internet dead zone (i.e., dial-up only) in the Catskills mountains. I'm calling it "situated net art." And trying to build a hackerspace in my studio.

-Dan

Ian Wojtowicz

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Oct 3, 2011, 12:25:38 PM10/3/11
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I'm very interested in metaweb development. There was a project at
berkeley a few years back that tried to create a firefox extension
that gave people links to opposing viewpoints from the current
webpage. Stuff like that really intrigues me. I've got a few
half-baked prototypes and ideas related to this that I'd like to get
off the ground.

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Nolen, David

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Oct 3, 2011, 12:34:18 PM10/3/11
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Things are very stalled, and I can't muster up that much enthusiasm to release what we have.

The JavaScript and browser extension landscape has changed dramatically and a lot of ShiftSpace's internals both old and new are now obsolete.

But there's no better time to start over then now! Many of the hurdles for a very good cross platform implementation of ShiftSpace or something like it have been removed and there are many interesting developments with similar goals (Telehash, Locker Project).

David

alan schaffer

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Oct 3, 2011, 2:53:49 PM10/3/11
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Hey guys! just saying hello.
I am still following you guys and thinking of how cool was working together.
I am still very very interested in working on §  as a designer or front-end or even helping with some ideas about how to refocus some of the new ideas in general....in one way or another it would be great to meet again at some point.!

Wish u all the best!
Cheers!
Alan
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Dan Phiffer

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Oct 4, 2011, 5:07:43 PM10/4/11
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I'd be up to have some beers and maybe discuss whether Node.js is actually cancer...
http://teddziuba.com/2011/10/node-js-is-cancer.html

Sad news on the MoMA social bar front -- not only did phase 2 get pushed back into oblivion, but the bar itself will most likely be going away. :P

-Dan

Joe Moore

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Oct 4, 2011, 5:11:48 PM10/4/11
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Nolen, David

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Oct 4, 2011, 5:18:27 PM10/4/11
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That would be fun! I think Node.js is great in the way that PHP is great. It lowers the barrier of entry and it's a great tool for small projects and creative projects.

Well 3 years is not a bad run for something we originally built in 4 months.

David

Liangjie XIA

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Oct 4, 2011, 5:19:51 PM10/4/11
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I'm totally down for beer.

Dan Phiffer

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Oct 4, 2011, 5:35:41 PM10/4/11
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Awesome! Any chance Mushon could join via Skype?

Joe Moore

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Oct 4, 2011, 5:38:24 PM10/4/11
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Only if it's the official ShiftSpace beer.

-Joe

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Mushon Zer-Aviv

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Oct 4, 2011, 5:38:41 PM10/4/11
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Sure, I have beer here, but I think it would be less fun for you. Unless it's in the studio and not too late…

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Dan Phiffer

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Oct 5, 2011, 12:24:21 PM10/5/11
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This Saturday? Is noon NYC/6pm TLV too early/late?

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Dan Phiffer

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Oct 6, 2011, 1:05:28 PM10/6/11
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Or should we leave the laptops at home and hit up a bar someplace? I could go either way.

If we do want to hack at all I can offer my studio as a possibility. It's close to the M train, although deeper into Bushwick. David's place is fine with me too.

-Dan

Mushon Zer-Aviv

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Oct 6, 2011, 3:51:09 PM10/6/11
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I think it makes more sense for you guys to get beers together. Partying in Skype is lame.

If this makes you feel like hacking together again I'd love to join & drink remotely. ;)

cheers,

Mushon Zer-Aviv
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Joe Moore

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Oct 7, 2011, 7:58:15 PM10/7/11
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Meeting up tomorrow sounds fun, but we should definitely include
Mushon for the future "The social bar is dead, long live the \"social
bar\"" get together. Does anyone want to make this official? I'm free
until late afternoon tomorrow.

-Joe

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Dan Phiffer

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Oct 8, 2011, 1:20:22 PM10/8/11
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I'm hacking on a new thing today that's nearing completion and would love to hang out. If anyone wants to drop by my studio I'm happy to provide cheap beer. After that Ellie and I are heading to Occupy Wall Street around 4:30 or so.

Also, the Facebooks tell me that Hairy Sands has a gig tomorrow night. It sounds like they're going on early enough for homebodies like myself...

-Dan

Clint Newsom

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Oct 8, 2011, 7:59:06 PM10/8/11
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Come to the hairy sands show!
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