Checking in
Frank Sorenson
I just wanted to check in with you two on where we're at.
Mom, did you speak with Bill about the certificates and other
genealogical records he took home with him? What's the plan with
those? Is he sending them to you? Is he scanning everything (and if
so, is he keeping the originals or the scans)? If it would be helpful,
I'd be happy to volunteer to do all the scanning, burning to CD for
people, etc.
It would be very valuable to have those certificates, papers, and
documents (and honestly, I'd like to create high-quality scans
myself...). I'm concerned that we're attempting to re-do research
that's already been done, and we really need to know what's out there.
Rebecca, are we currently waiting on any certificates? Which ones?
I went back and re-read the genealogy sections of Grandma's book, and
for some areas, we've been searching for the wrong thing. According to
Grandma's book, it was Patrick himself who went to Southern Indiana to
study for the priesthood, but he never took his vows.
From Grandma's book, the story on Maggie is that her sister was a maid
in the home of a wealthy family in New York City, and that this sister
had arranged for Maggie to take a position as a laundress in the home,
and didn't want to lose the opportunity. Maggie and the baby went on
ahead. She then mentions that she's got a notation (unknown source)
that the baby Edwin Simons was born in 1875.
When James M. and the others finally travelled to NYC, they went to the
NY address they had, but were told she was no longer employed there.
Maggie and sister had moved, leaving no forwarding address. After
searching for a time, James et al boarded a train and went to Indiana
where "Grandpa's brother Pat lived". (the aforementioned Patrick)
So... If Maggie and "the baby" went ahead, I would think that "the
baby" was pretty young... Over two years of age, I'd stop referring to
the kid as a baby, and perhaps call them a small child, or similar. I'd
say our target time-frame for Maggie and Edwin (still speculation)
traveling to the US would be 1875-1878 or so.
Need to look for an Edwin Simon born (in Lancashire? maybe the Chorlton
upon Medlock area?)
Need to look for Maggie Simon and 'baby" Edwin arrival in NYC
I don't think we know of any sister of Maggie's, other than Ann
Sheil[d]s. Apparently, Ann left for NYC sometime earlier, but how much
earlier?
Can we find records of Ann (or other sister) arrival in NY (or living in
New York)?
Anyway, just some thoughts.
Hope all is well for you both.
Frank
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Rebecca Reid
marriage. It may be here before the weekend. I've not been sure what to
research for those two since we're not even sure if that is our Margaret. I
could, if you and Mom think it worthwhile, order the possible birth
certificate for James Simon. There is a good chance he was born after they
arrived in England, give his age on later censuses. BMD index attached for
that (Shimmin, James). There is a Jane Shimmin born in 1847 in the same area
(Chorlton/Hulme). Also, a John Shannon born in Chorlton/Hulme in 1851, after
the census would have been taken. These may be our family.
Thanks for the rundown of things. I have done some searches for a birth of
Edwin in the area, but hadn't found anything. I will start looking again.
And I think the only female Symons we found travelling with a baby or child
to NYC was in 1876, and she had a baby named Thomas. That's how I got on the
whole "Thomas" search before.
Did you want to rescan the certificates I had too? I scanned them in .tif
format and then converted it to .pdf to send it to you and mom. I could try
to send you the .tif but they are very large...
Oh my on the Patrick was going to take his vows. If that is the case, we
need to find the oldest Simon son in England. Thomas was his name? He must
have been married between 1851 and 1861.
And do we know for sure it was Ann who was the one in NYC? I still wonder if
maybe she considered a Simon girl as her "sister." It's a possibility at
least. We don't find Ann on the 1871 census, so I had suspected she'd been
married. If we can find her marriage and her new last name we may be able to
track her down, wherever she might be.
Anyway, thanks again, Frank for the rundown of where to go. I haven't been
thinking "family history" lately, and I should get back in the groove.
Rebecca
Frank Sorenson
> Yes, I'm waiting on the certificate for the Margaret Shiels/Denis Delaney
> marriage. It may be here before the weekend. I've not been sure what to
> research for those two since we're not even sure if that is our Margaret. I
> could, if you and Mom think it worthwhile, order the possible birth
> certificate for James Simon. There is a good chance he was born after they
> arrived in England, give his age on later censuses. BMD index attached for
> that (Shimmin, James). There is a Jane Shimmin born in 1847 in the same area
> (Chorlton/Hulme). Also, a John Shannon born in Chorlton/Hulme in 1851, after
> the census would have been taken. These may be our family.
So what certificate arrived? It sounded like the one that came didn't
really fit what we were expecting. How close/far did it end up?