2 marriage certifs

[Rebecca Reid]

Attached are the two marriage certificates (and 2 birth certificates to come) I ordered.

 

 

Marriages: Patrick Dunlop in 1841 and Bridgett Dunlapp in 1844 were both children of a Patrick Dunlop, listed as a Farmer in one and a Labourer in the other.  Unfortunately, for age, both say “full” or “of full age” so we didn’t get any new information, really.

 

 

Births: The 1849 birth certificate for James shows he is the son of Thomas Shimmin, but the mother is not Bridget. It says Sarah, formerly Burns. So either Sarah died and Thomas remarried before 1851 or we’re completely off here. I’m thinking we’re completely off. Your thoughts?

 

 

The 1864 certificate for a James Delaney is not correct. It shows father William Delaney and Mother Isabella Delaney, formerly McAdams.

 

 

I think I’ll order the Ann’s birth certificate you mentioned before, Frank.

Also, we should look for Sarah Shimmin/Simmon dying between 1849 and 1851, and /or Thomas Shimmin/Simon marriage during that same time. But that probably is not likely.

 

 

Also, we could look for Thomas Simon and/or Margaret Simon in the 1861 census. Since Martin is already 15, both of them could be married by 1861.

John also is 9 in that census. Where is he, and again, where is Margaret Ann in the 1871 census? I’ll keep looking for James Delaney’s birth, one that might be more accurate. But again, we can’t be sure the 1861 marriage is our Margaret since her age is 3 ½ years older than it should be. Sigh. So much more to discover.

 

 

Also, I asked about the “rough burial record” I found on family search for Ann Shields. I was told ordering the microfilm for $5 would tell us nothing new that the online document told us, so I decided not to do that right now.

No one knew what “rough burial record” meant as opposed to simply a burial record. To me, it sounds like a poor-person’s notation at the church, a pauper’s grave.

 

 

I hope you are all well. Happy post Easter!

 

 

Rebecca

 

[Frank Sorenson]

On 04/25/2011 09:54 PM, Rebecca Reid wrote:

Attached are the two marriage certificates (and 2 birth certificates to come) I ordered.

 

Marriages: Patrick Dunlop in 1841 and Bridgett Dunlapp in 1844 were both children of a Patrick Dunlop, listed as a Farmer in one and a Labourer in the other.  Unfortunately, for age, both say “full” or “of full age” so we didn’t get any new information, really.

We did get marriage dates and places (Saint Werburgh's in Birkenhead--not to be confused with _other_ St. Werburgh's in the area).  I'll need to go back through my notes to see what other information I expected we might learn.

Births: The 1849 birth certificate for James shows he is the son of Thomas Shimmin, but the mother is not Bridget. It says Sarah, formerly Burns. So either Sarah died and Thomas remarried before 1851 or we’re completely off here. I’m thinking we’re completely off. Your thoughts?

I'll have to think it through some more.  I guess we might still be missing it.

 

The 1864 certificate for a James Delaney is not correct. It shows father William Delaney and Mother Isabella Delaney, formerly McAdams. 

Unless he was adopted, you're probably right...  we keep searching, I guess.

I think I’ll order the Ann’s birth certificate you mentioned before, Frank.

Also, we should look for Sarah Shimmin/Simmon dying between 1849 and 1851, and /or Thomas Shimmin/Simon marriage during that same time. But that probably is not likely.

 

 

Also, we could look for Thomas Simon and/or Margaret Simon in the 1861 census. Since Martin is already 15, both of them could be married by 1861.

John also is 9 in that census. Where is he, and again, where is Margaret Ann in the 1871 census? I’ll keep looking for James Delaney’s birth, one that might be more accurate. But again, we can’t be sure the 1861 marriage is our Margaret since her age is 3 ½ years older than it should be. Sigh. So much more to discover.

More mysteries.  Too bad that even with the much improved access to information we get these days, there's still a huge amount of information that's been lost.  Rather hard to find information that no longer exists...

 Also, I asked about the “rough burial record” I found on family search for Ann Shields. I was told ordering the microfilm for $5 would tell us nothing new that the online document told us, so I decided not to do that right now.

No one knew what “rough burial record” meant as opposed to simply a burial record. To me, it sounds like a poor-person’s notation at the church, a pauper’s grave.

 

 

I hope you are all well. Happy post Easter!

 

 

Rebecca

Thanks for ordering these, and getting them scanned.  One of these days, we'll hit upon the right combinations, and something will break open.

Frank

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[Rebecca Reid]

Frank, I think we were hoping the marriage certifs gave ages or something – It was too bad it just said, “of full age.” I think it was good we still got them. We know for sure who their spouses are, so we can add them to new family search, right?

 

I did search a little last night – no luck in finding Sarah Shimmins dying or Thomas Shimmins marrying, so that is not right. Forget that idea!

 

Rebecca

[Frank Sorenson]

On 04/25/2011 09:54 PM, Rebecca Reid wrote:

I think I’ll order the Ann’s birth certificate you mentioned before, Frank.

Just last night, I found the attached register of baptisms at St. Mary's Parish in Liverpool from 1848.

When Baptised:  October 8
When born:  Sept. 24
Child's Name:  Ann
Parents' Christian Name:  Patrick & Ann
Parents' Surname:  Shields
Godfather:  Jeremiah Fitsgibbon
Godmother:  Ann Hernen
By whom Baptised:  Sow? Glasshook

(if you see corrections, please help me out with deciphering the handwriting--remember, I once spent an hour looking for "The Sword and Larry" for mom...all because I had trouble reading mom's handwriting of "The Sound and Fury".