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Jul 3, 2024, 3:24:01 AMJul 3
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भेजने वाले: संस्कृत संवादः <samskrit...@gmail.com>
Date: मंगल, 2 जुल॰ 2024, 14:36
Subject: Steps to Rectify Sanskrit Degradation
To: Janardana Hegde <janarda...@gmail.com>


Respected Shri Hegde,
Namaste.

I write to propose a crucial initiative aimed at rectifying the unintentional degradation of Sanskrit to ensure the use of correct Sanskrit forms.

 Below are the proposed steps:

1. Official Acknowledgement and Apology: Begin with an official acknowledgement of the unintentional degradation of Sanskrit and extend a sincere apology for every impact this have had on our cultural heritage.

2. Review and Correct Existing Textbooks: Conduct a thorough review of existing Sanskrit textbooks to identify errors and inconsistencies in grammar, syntax, and usage.

3. Era of Shuddhi Andolan: Initiate an "Era of Shuddhi Andolan" to promote correct usage and celebrate the efforts of those who diligently work to restore Sanskrit's purity.

4. Redesign Curriculum with Emphasis on Correct Forms: Redesign the curriculum to prioritize the use of correct Sanskrit grammar, including Sandhi rules, verb forms (lakāras), and appropriate use of Madhyama Purusha.

    4.1. Zero Tolerance for Errors: Mistakes should be corrected immediately upon identification with zero tolerance. Encourage a culture where errors are seen as learning opportunities, not as points of embarrassment.
   
    4.2. Embrace Sandhi Rules: Promote thorough learning and practice of Sandhi rules.
   
    4.3. Correct Usage of Madhyama Purusha: Ensure accurate usage of the middle voice in verbs, emphasizing its importance.
   
    4.4. Differentiation from Hindi: Clarify the unique grammar, vocabulary, and sentence structure of Sanskrit distinct from Hindi.
   
    4.5. Appropriate Use of Compounds or Vibhakti: Utilize appropriate compounds or case endings (vibhakti) for clarity and precision.
   
    4.6. Avoid Using 'वा' for Questions: Use suitable question indicators instead of 'वा' for questioning.


5. Incorporate Classical Sanskrit Texts: Integrate excerpts from classical Sanskrit texts, such as Pancharatram and other literary works, to exemplify correct usage and enhance comprehension of Sanskrit's traditional conversational styles.

6. Development of New Texts and Materials: Develop new textbooks and supplementary materials that adhere strictly to the principles of classical Sanskrit, ensuring clarity, accuracy, and preservation of language integrity.

7. Training for Educators: Provide comprehensive training programs for Sanskrit educators to familiarize them with the revised curriculum and empower them to teach correct Sanskrit effectively. Only appoint individuals proficient in both theoretical and practical aspects of Sanskrit through rigorous testing and certification.

8. Continuous Review and Improvement: Establish a mechanism for continuous review and improvement of textbooks, incorporating feedback from educators and scholars to maintain high standards of linguistic accuracy.

9. Promotion of Wholesome Learning: Focus on comprehensive Sanskrit education that includes all key elements without neglecting any aspect crucial for a thorough understanding.

10. Translation of Technical Terms: Prepare Sanskrit equivalents for technical terminology across various fields and compile them in dictionaries.

Implementing these measures will help maintain the purity and richness of Sanskrit, ensuring its continued teaching and learning with the highest standards.

Irene Galstian

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Jul 3, 2024, 3:53:09 AMJul 3
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Sorry, but this is going too far.
Dr Hegde and the Sanskrit experts who founded SB and keep it going for many years now have spent their lives teaching and promoting Sanskrit, and thanks to them that river is flowing. Please ask yourself, how long have you been involved? How long will you last? Polemics is one thing, staying power is another. To do what they did at SB they needed A LOT of staying power when there was nothing else that kept them going. While in your case a worthwhile contribution is AT BEST a promise, in the case of SB founders is THE DELIVERY, which means days, weeks, months and years devoted to Sanskrit textbooks, translations, promotions, etc. For what? To make money? Surely not: look how affordable the excellent SB translations are of various novels that only someone who knows Sanskrit extremely well can take on and bring to a conclusion. Look how concerned Dr Hegde is that the readers of his grammar books are aware of the subtleties of Sanskrit usages. We must bow to the founders of SB and know clearly that we owe them a debt we can't possibly repay. 
You are not wrong when you say that it's not possible to teach spoken Sanskrit in 10 days. In fact, unless you know someone who speaks Sanskrit well and who is willing to speak with you and teach you, 10 years won't be enough either. But nothing at all can take away the immense achievement of SB and nothing can ever diminish our endless gratitude to its founders. 

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Jul 3, 2024, 3:54:11 AMJul 3
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I bow down to every single contribution of every person to Sanskrit, Even if negligible. But that won't make anyone immune to criticism. We ourselves always promote SB. That doesn't mean I won't ask for a भाषाशुद्धिः drive for people misguided. Every contribution is great still can't escape the mess spread.

बुधवार, 3 जुलाई 2024 को 1:23:09 pm UTC+5:30 बजे Irene Galstian ने लिखा:

Sadanand Bhise

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Jul 3, 2024, 5:41:07 AMJul 3
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Samkrit Sanvad, 

Under what credibility you are putting your demands. Why don't you come up with a better solution spend some years (if not 40 years like SB) and create so called elite scholar's then criticise SB. 
And what is my credibility to question you? It's at the same level with which you are questioning SB. 

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Jul 3, 2024, 5:47:13 AMJul 3
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If only You people would have questioned the credibility of unqualified teachers assigned at Sambhashana Shibirs and Vargas. Nevertheless, It's not a demand but a proposal. 

I believe they are more sincere and mature in their approach and would take this with right consideration. If implemented successfully it would for sure limit the degradation and corruption in the mainstream sanskrit folks.

बुधवार, 3 जुलाई 2024 को 3:11:07 pm UTC+5:30 बजे sadana...@gmail.com ने लिखा:

samskritasurabhi Bashakendra RegdTrichy

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Jul 4, 2024, 12:45:44 PM (13 days ago) Jul 4
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No justification for unqualified teachers sincerely it is abandoned and not accepting your justification that qualified teachers are not sincere  please withdraw your comments and consideration immediately


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Jul 4, 2024, 12:50:38 PM (13 days ago) Jul 4
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If anyone can comprehend this, Please explain in a clear and correct language.

गुरु, 4 जुल॰ 2024, 22:15 को samskritasurabhi Bashakendra RegdTrichy <samskrita...@gmail.com> ने लिखा:

samskritasurabhi Bashakendra RegdTrichy

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Jul 4, 2024, 1:03:00 PM (13 days ago) Jul 4
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Giving opportunities to unqualified teachers should be really abandoned by all and I don't agree with your reasoning that qualified teachers are not honest Please withdraw your comments and consideration immediately.

संस्कृत संवादः

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Jul 4, 2024, 1:05:48 PM (13 days ago) Jul 4
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Then we are on the same side.

गुरु, 4 जुल॰ 2024, 22:32 को samskritasurabhi Bashakendra RegdTrichy <samskrita...@gmail.com> ने लिखा:

O M

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Jul 4, 2024, 1:13:18 PM (13 days ago) Jul 4
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A very humble request to consider "a futuristic sanskrit" not a language that is classically grammatically incorrect, but that can accommodate and have a provision for current technological terms like "google" which are already incorporated into old classical English dictionaries. We need Sanskrit to evolve and be current in every way so that current and future generations can learn and converse in sanskrit but still be current. Past is past but the glory of sanskrit can continue and evolve to current age.


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Jul 4, 2024, 1:15:38 PM (13 days ago) Jul 4
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This is in line with the 10th point. It can be renamed as per panini rules. 

10. Translation of Technical Terms: Prepare Sanskrit equivalents for technical terminology across various fields and compile them in dictionaries

गुरु, 4 जुल॰ 2024, 22:43 को O M <san...@gmail.com> ने लिखा:

samskritasurabhi Bashakendra RegdTrichy

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Jul 4, 2024, 1:16:15 PM (13 days ago) Jul 4
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Giving opportunities to unqualified teachers should be really abandoned by all and I don't agree with your reasoning that qualified teachers are not honest Please take back your comments and consideration immediately.That's why Samskrit Surabi is providing qualified Sanskrit education with the support of qualified Sanskrit language experts with permission given by Central Sanskrit University of New Delhi and on behalf of Government of Tamil Nadu.  This educational institution is running in conjunction with the course programs of the above said university and our certificates are valid and it is very great opportunity for getting university degree  for all school students it is our great task ,but more jealousy and angry for SB groups now

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संस्कृत संवादः

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Jul 4, 2024, 1:18:28 PM (13 days ago) Jul 4
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We asked them to ensure that only qualified teachers are appointed. You have been mistaken. 

गुरु, 4 जुल॰ 2024, 22:46 को samskritasurabhi Bashakendra RegdTrichy <samskrita...@gmail.com> ने लिखा:

samskritasurabhi Bashakendra RegdTrichy

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Jul 4, 2024, 1:22:37 PM (13 days ago) Jul 4
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Yes I am on the same note I am not mistaken  but since they are not giving up the right persons opportunity they are misguiding and cheapest option of free education and use their influence and spoiling the correct option in Trichy

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