Verizon terminating EVDO accounts for excessive usage

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Stan Slonkosky

Jun 1, 2006, 11:43:25 AM6/1/06
A number of Verizon users have recently received a letter, which
states, in part:

"As you know, the terms and conditions that govern your NationalAccess
and/or BroadbandAccess account, which were provided to you at the time
of service activation and which are posted on,
only permit Internet browsing, email, and intranet access. All other
activities, such as streaming and/or donwloading movies and video, are
expressly prohibited by the terms and conditions. A copy of the terms
and conditions is enclosed.

"We recently reviewed your Verizon Wireless NationalAccess and/or
Broadband Access account and found that your usage over the past 30
days exceeded 10 Gigabytes. Your usage was more than 40 times that of
a typical user. This level of usage is so extraordinarily high that it
could only have been attained by activites, such as streaming and/or
downloading movies and video, prohibited by the terms and conditions.
Based on these facts, your extraordinarily high levels of usage
conclusively demonstrate a violation of the terms and conditions, and
your account will be terminated on 5/30/2006."

Sever users at
reported that. Others have reported that their termination date is to
be June 5.

Also see the article "Use SlingBox, Get Your EVDO Terminated" at
and the related item . So far
there are numerous reports of Verizon getting their accounts
terminated but only one from a Sprint user getting his account

Stan Slonkosky

Matthew Reed

Jun 1, 2006, 1:46:56 PM6/1/06
Just more justification of why we need more Muni-WiFi's!

Stan Slonkosky

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Jun 1, 2006, 2:15:53 PM6/1/06
Sure, they have a right to limit the bandwidth.  I don't think anyone would like to work with a network designed with back haul for 1,000 normal users and have 100 of them do a terabyte a day...

Still, I would think that conversation about it rather than termination would be better for everyone.  Offer those that pull more a higher surcharge for that bandwidth...some offer of a solution that is positive and not the draconian " will be terminated." kind of letter.

Darth Sidious lives at Verizon?

On 6/1/06, Matthew Reed <> wrote:

Just more justification of why we need more Muni-WiFi's!

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Mike Outmesguine

Jun 1, 2006, 4:27:22 PM6/1/06
Well, you order "unlimited" bandwidth. That shouldn't mean "unlimited unless
it's over 10 GB". If their threshold is 10GB then the plan should be that.

The market will win on this one. Cable companies killed themselves early in
the bandwidth race by thwarting popular usage behavior. My gamer friends
liked DSL because they could host game servers and multiple computers from
one connection. Draconian terms of service agreements (as exhibited by cable
companies in the early days) that prohibit normal behavior will suffer from
market forces.

If a carrier blocks users from surfing the sites they use when connected by
other means, like at home, then they will jump ship and find a carrier that
lets them surf how they want.

Verizon, Sprint, Tmobile, Alltel, Cingular, Ampd, Disney Mobile, Fred's Hip
New Wireless MVNO, etc. We have a lot of choices.

Sprint and Verizon are at the head of the line for 3G data right now. That
doesn't mean some upstart carrier will say all-you-can-eat means
all-you-can-eat and take the lead in this tiny, but growing market.

Patiently awaiting a letter,

PS: I believe we are seeing similar trends and corproate behavior patterns
to those when dialup first started entering the home. Back around 1995, AT&T
Internet got huge flack for limiting the number of minutes you can stay
connected with their monthly unlimited dialup program - People jumped ship
to places like Earthlink, who didn't limit anything or care how long you
were connected.

Mike Outmesguine
President, TransStellar, Inc.
Author, Wi-Fi Toys
Chairman, Southern California Wireless Users Group
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Vinod prabhu

Jun 5, 2006, 12:43:08 AM6/5/06
Can any one tell me the lists of channel allowed for IEEE 802.16e

thanking you in advance



Jun 5, 2006, 9:06:01 AM6/5/06
The radio frequencies that WiMax will use are outlined and discussed in this WikiPedia article on WiMax:

The 802.16 specification applies across a wide swath of RF specrutm, but specification is not the same as permission to use. There is no uniform global licensed spectrum for WiMAX. In the US, the biggest segment available is around 2.5GHz, and is already assigned, primarily to Sprint Nextel. Elsewhere in the world, the most likely bands used will be around 3.5GHz, 2.3/2.5GHz, or 5GHz, with 2.3/2.5 GHz probably being most important in Asia.

There is some prospect that some of a 700MHz band might be made available for WiMAX use, but it is currently assigned to the analog TV and awaits the complete rollout of HD digital TV before it can become available, likely by 2009. And, in any case, there will be other uses suggested for that spectrum if and when it actually becomes open.

It seems likely that there will be several variants of 802.16, depending on local regulatory conditions and thus on which spectrum is used. Even if everything but the underlying radio frequencies is the same. WiMAX equipment will not, therefore, be as portable as it might have been. And perhaps even less so than WiFi, whose assigned channels in unlicensed spectrum varies more than a little from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.

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