Re: [HS] Re: [ubuntu-tn] Software Freedom Day
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hatem ounis
Aug 9, 2012, 2:16:33 PM8/9/12
to mem...@hackerspace.tn, Wassim Derguech, Tunisian Ubuntu LoCo Team Mailing List, Habib M. KAMMOUN, tunand...@googlegroups.com, tunis...@googlegroups.com, sfd_t...@googlegroups.com
I think we all agree that we need to gather our efforts, that's a good start.
It's exactly in that goal that we initiated the HackerScop
association, its aim is to gather Free Software communities to help
giving them the legal context we suffered from its lack in the past &
to avoid problems we had in past events for funding & sponsoring.
It's a really new association we didn't have our first general
assembly yet, we are planning it for the weekend after eid (maybe
saturday August 25th) you are all welcome to contribute in
association's way of work. so stay tuned and don't hesitate to
subscribe on our ML for more details as described here
http://hackerspace.tn/index.php/Ml
Website http://hackerscop.tn is under construction.
I insist that the association is not trying to do things in its way
ignoring other communities it's more an association trying to gather
efforts of all Tunisian free software communities and providing a
legal context for each of them, so I strongly invite anybody to get
involved so he doesn't feel like it's an entity separated from other
communities but more an entity gathering all communities efforts.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Taher Mestiri <tmes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Great to see this discussion going throw while it goes in my sense in one
> direction : joining efforts to be successful in organizing the SFD Tunisia
> 2012.
>
> Let's focus on what can unify our efforts. I think it's the main important
> thing.
>
> So to be more productive, I invite you all to propose content for the SFD
> Tunisia 2012, last year we got 4 communities involved let's have much more
> this year.
>
> If someones are available to join for the organization, they are all
> welcome. No matter which way of communication we use, the main important
> thing is to communicate, talk less and do more ;)
>
> Available to buy the domaine name softwarefreedomday.tn and keep paying for
> it for 10 years if you want.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Taher Mestiri.
>
> 2012/8/9 Wassim Derguech <dfsa....@gmail.com>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> First, I want to apologise for any offences you may have percieved or any
>> inconveniences caused by my previous email. But be sure that never was or is
>> my intention to discourage the SFD Tunisia event organisation. Actually, I
>> think that I was misunderstood.
>>
>> Just to let you know, I am aware of the openness of SFD and SFI, because I
>> was even a member of SFI and involved in the organization of SFD 2007 (with
>> SFI, not only the Tunisian event).
>>
>> Most importantly, I am highly encouraging the initiative of having again
>> SFD organized in Tunisia. Recall, I was the first one to register for SFD
>> and organise it for the first year (2006) and we won an IBM server that is
>> still under the dust and none wanted to use it even for simple experiments.
>> In 2007 we were not able to participate because I was in the organizing
>> comity of SFD and in 2008 we also won also a honorary consideration. This
>> means that all previous events were successful and making use of their
>> ressources might same time and money.
>>
>> When I said breaking the chain, I ment: why not joining the mailing list
>> SFD_Tunisia and launch one more time a call through that channel? Why not
>> contacting previous events directors for giving you acess to all available
>> ressources including the mailing list, website, reports, etc.? none have
>> contacted me or any other SFD directors of the past events!
>>
>> The mailing list for example contains organizers, contributors and
>> partipants of all the past events which includes: DFSA, CLLFST, ESPRITLibre,
>> Fedora-Tunisia, FreeWays, Info+, JockerInfo, LibertySoft, Securitnets,
>> FreeSoft'com et bien sur Ubuntu-tn.
>>
>> @Nizar, the problem of the Open Source Community in Tunisia is that "none
>> wants to work under the umbrella of others" in other words none wants to
>> join other efforts. A simple example, why looking for establishing new
>> associations knowing that there are others that exist but none is looking to
>> revive them!
>>
>> For the www.softwarefreedomday.tn, it is a very nice idea, actually I was
>> paying for www.sfdtunisia.org for 3 years but then I stopped because none
>> wanted to take of it after me! but we still have
>> http://sfdtunisia.freehostia.com/ available online.
>>
>> One more thing, I am not looking to be one of the organizers of SFD
>> Tunisia or even being of any kind of influence, because I have been since
>> 2009 overwhelmed by organizing it here in Ireland but I am feeling some
>> pinch when seeing the previous efforts in Tunisia being vanished!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Wassim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/8/9 Nizar Kerkeni <niz...@ubuntu.com>
>>>
>>> Bonjour à tous,
>>> Wassim, si les anciennes ressources n'ont pas était utilisée c'est qu'il
>>> y a certainement un mauvaise gestion des ces ressources.
>>> Bref, l'initiative de faire revivre le SFD est à encourager même si elle
>>> casse la chaîne déjà cassée des autres SFD.
>>> Le soucis de notre communauté et qu'elle est dispercée sur des dizaines
>>> de groupes et des dizaines de listes ce qui rend la coordination délicate et
>>> le retour d’expérience inexistant.
>>> Il y a eu une première initiative pour regrouper la communauté
>>> http://zied.abid.be/blog/index.php?article3/cullt-reloaded mais ça n'a pas
>>> bien fonctionné.
>>> Dernièrement il y a eu la création d'une association HackerScope
>>> http://hackerspace.tn (liste en copie mem...@hackerspace.tn) qui souhaite
>>> regrouper la communauté Tunisienne du Libre et elle fait du bon travail et
>>> j'espère que tout les membres laisserons leur égoïsme de coté et joindrons
>>> leur efforts car nous avons tous les mêmes objectifs.
>>> D'ailleurs je propose de créer un nom de domaine
>>> www.softwarefreedomday.tn pour regrouper tout ce qui est en relation avec le
>>> SFD Tunisia depuis la première session. Que pensez vous ?
>>> Librement.
>>>
>>> Le 08/08/2012 15:17, Habib M. KAMMOUN a écrit :
>>>
>>> Dear Wassim,
>>>
>>> Ramadhan Mubarak & Thanks for your email!
>>>
>>> SFD is an annual worldwide celebration of Free Software organized by the
>>> DFI (Aka SFI). It can be organized in different regions in the same country.
>>> So, any local team can organize a local SF Day.
>>>
>>> Personally, I heard about the international SFD in 2009 and I saw that
>>> SFD events in Tunisia was organized only in Tunis (capital) with no
>>> participation of clubs outside Tunis. Me and my colleagues in ENIS (Sfax)
>>> planned to organize next year an SFD event in ENIS respecting the same
>>> international day (it was on 18 Sept. 2010).
>>> http://sfd.ieee-enis.org/?page_id=6
>>>
>>> In 2011, since we haven't seen the organization of other SFD event in
>>> Tunis (in 2010 & 2011), we cooperate with the TunAndroid community to
>>> organize a bigger event (called SFD Tunisia) outside Tunis with the
>>> participation of students from different universities in Tunisia (we offered
>>> some buses for students travel) and with the participation of an
>>> international speaker from Google.
>>> This event was selected as one of the best 3 organized events worldwide.
>>>
>>> After this success, we submitted with the TunAndroid Community a proposal
>>> to organize the 1st SFD summit in the Monastir Science Palace. Our proposal
>>> was selected (not yet officially announced) and the summit will be organized
>>> in 2013. http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/SfdSummit
>>>
>>> So, in order to prepare a good local organizing team, we plan to organize
>>> an SFD event in the Monastir Science Palace on Saturday 15 September 2012.
>>> Nizar Kerkeni from Ubuntu Tn, Taher Mestiri from TunAndroid, and Me (from
>>> the international engineering association "IEEE") started the organization
>>> of this event. It will be one day (AM for plenary talks and PM for
>>> workshops). we have already a confirmation of participation of a speaker
>>> from Google and the participation of some community in Tunisia. The door
>>> remains open for those we were unable to contact them and want to
>>> participate.
>>> The website of the event will be http://sfd.ieee-enis.org/
>>> A call for participation will be announced soon.
>>>
>>> If no other SFD events will be organized in Tunisia, the Monastir's event
>>> can be called SFD Tunisia.
>>>
>>> I'm surprised to read that we break the chain. Last year, 29 SFD events
>>> was organized in Philippines and 2 of them was selected with us as the top 3
>>> events. So, why only one event in Tunisia?
>>> We haven't closed the doors to anyone who wants to help. Last year:
>>> Ubuntu tn, Mozilla tn, Securinets and others contacted us to participate and
>>> to help in the organization. They were very welcomed!
>>>
>>> Welcome to all volunteer who want to help really! The success of the
>>> event will be a success to all volunteers, participants, and speakers.
>>>
>>> Best Regards & Chahia Taiba,
>>> Habib.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> Mohamed Habib KAMMOUN
>>>
>>> IEEE, GTUG
>>> Assistant, Department of Computer Science, University of Gafsa, Faculty
>>> of Science, Tunisia.
>>> PhD Student, REGIM: REsearch Group on Intelligent Machines, University of
>>> Sfax, National Engineering School of Sfax (ENIS), Tunisia.
>>> URL: http://kammoun.regim.org/
>>> Tel.: (+216) 98 414 608 - Fax: (+216) 74 408 894
>>> Address: Av. Farhat Hached, 13 Rue BellaRigia - 3000 Sfax - Tunisia
>>>
>>> IEEE ENIS Student Branch: http://www.ieee-enis.org/
>>> IEEE GOLD Tunisia: http://sites.ieee.org/tunisia-gold/
>>> IEEE Sfax Tunisia: http://ewh.ieee.org/r8/tunisia/sfax/
>>> Sfax GTUG: http://sites.google.com/site/sfaxgtug/
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> REGIM Lab., leading innovative research.
>>> IEEE Fosters Technological Innovation and Excellence for the Benefit of
>>> Humanity.
>>> Google: Don't be evil.
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> If you received this communication by mistake, please don't forward it to
>>> anyone else (it may contain confidential or privileged information), please
>>> erase all copies of it, including all attachments, and please let the sender
>>> know it went to the wrong person. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/8/8 Wassim Derguech <dfsa....@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Dear SFDTunisia chairs,
>>>>
>>>> SFDTunisia has been organised for 4 years by several contributors from
>>>> 2006 to 2009!
>>>>
>>>> Why breaking the chain and doing things diffrently?
>>>>
>>>> Why not joining efforts of previous seasons and make all contributors
>>>> parts of the organisation!
>>>>
>>>> There is a website [1], a mailing list [2], available materials, etc.
>>>> nothing of these is being reused?
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://sfdtunisia.freehostia.com
>>>> [2] https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/sfd_tunisia
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Wassim
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Derguech Wassim -DERWAS-
>>>>
>>>> dfsa.tuxfamily.org
>>>> www.dfsa.org.tn
>>>> dfsa.freehostia.com
>>>> www.sfdtunisia.org
>>>>
>>>> GSM: (+353) 879406596
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nizar Kerkeni
>>> LoCo ubuntu-tn & ubuntu member
>>> http://www.ubuntu-tn.org
>>> http://blog.nizarus.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Derguech Wassim -DERWAS-
>>
>> dfsa.tuxfamily.org
>> www.dfsa.org.tn
>> dfsa.freehostia.com
>> www.sfdtunisia.org
>>
>> GSM: (+353) 879406596
>
>
>
>
> --
> Taher Mestiri
> I.T.Grapes
> Tunandroid.com
> Tunis GTUG
>
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It's exactly in that goal that we initiated the HackerScop
association, its aim is to gather Free Software communities to help
giving them the legal context we suffered from its lack in the past &
to avoid problems we had in past events for funding & sponsoring.
It's a really new association we didn't have our first general
assembly yet, we are planning it for the weekend after eid (maybe
saturday August 25th) you are all welcome to contribute in
association's way of work. so stay tuned and don't hesitate to
subscribe on our ML for more details as described here
http://hackerspace.tn/index.php/Ml
Website http://hackerscop.tn is under construction.
I insist that the association is not trying to do things in its way
ignoring other communities it's more an association trying to gather
efforts of all Tunisian free software communities and providing a
legal context for each of them, so I strongly invite anybody to get
involved so he doesn't feel like it's an entity separated from other
communities but more an entity gathering all communities efforts.
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 3:29 PM, Taher Mestiri <tmes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> Great to see this discussion going throw while it goes in my sense in one
> direction : joining efforts to be successful in organizing the SFD Tunisia
> 2012.
>
> Let's focus on what can unify our efforts. I think it's the main important
> thing.
>
> So to be more productive, I invite you all to propose content for the SFD
> Tunisia 2012, last year we got 4 communities involved let's have much more
> this year.
>
> If someones are available to join for the organization, they are all
> welcome. No matter which way of communication we use, the main important
> thing is to communicate, talk less and do more ;)
>
> Available to buy the domaine name softwarefreedomday.tn and keep paying for
> it for 10 years if you want.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Taher Mestiri.
>
> 2012/8/9 Wassim Derguech <dfsa....@gmail.com>
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> First, I want to apologise for any offences you may have percieved or any
>> inconveniences caused by my previous email. But be sure that never was or is
>> my intention to discourage the SFD Tunisia event organisation. Actually, I
>> think that I was misunderstood.
>>
>> Just to let you know, I am aware of the openness of SFD and SFI, because I
>> was even a member of SFI and involved in the organization of SFD 2007 (with
>> SFI, not only the Tunisian event).
>>
>> Most importantly, I am highly encouraging the initiative of having again
>> SFD organized in Tunisia. Recall, I was the first one to register for SFD
>> and organise it for the first year (2006) and we won an IBM server that is
>> still under the dust and none wanted to use it even for simple experiments.
>> In 2007 we were not able to participate because I was in the organizing
>> comity of SFD and in 2008 we also won also a honorary consideration. This
>> means that all previous events were successful and making use of their
>> ressources might same time and money.
>>
>> When I said breaking the chain, I ment: why not joining the mailing list
>> SFD_Tunisia and launch one more time a call through that channel? Why not
>> contacting previous events directors for giving you acess to all available
>> ressources including the mailing list, website, reports, etc.? none have
>> contacted me or any other SFD directors of the past events!
>>
>> The mailing list for example contains organizers, contributors and
>> partipants of all the past events which includes: DFSA, CLLFST, ESPRITLibre,
>> Fedora-Tunisia, FreeWays, Info+, JockerInfo, LibertySoft, Securitnets,
>> FreeSoft'com et bien sur Ubuntu-tn.
>>
>> @Nizar, the problem of the Open Source Community in Tunisia is that "none
>> wants to work under the umbrella of others" in other words none wants to
>> join other efforts. A simple example, why looking for establishing new
>> associations knowing that there are others that exist but none is looking to
>> revive them!
>>
>> For the www.softwarefreedomday.tn, it is a very nice idea, actually I was
>> paying for www.sfdtunisia.org for 3 years but then I stopped because none
>> wanted to take of it after me! but we still have
>> http://sfdtunisia.freehostia.com/ available online.
>>
>> One more thing, I am not looking to be one of the organizers of SFD
>> Tunisia or even being of any kind of influence, because I have been since
>> 2009 overwhelmed by organizing it here in Ireland but I am feeling some
>> pinch when seeing the previous efforts in Tunisia being vanished!
>>
>> Regards,
>> Wassim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2012/8/9 Nizar Kerkeni <niz...@ubuntu.com>
>>>
>>> Bonjour à tous,
>>> Wassim, si les anciennes ressources n'ont pas était utilisée c'est qu'il
>>> y a certainement un mauvaise gestion des ces ressources.
>>> Bref, l'initiative de faire revivre le SFD est à encourager même si elle
>>> casse la chaîne déjà cassée des autres SFD.
>>> Le soucis de notre communauté et qu'elle est dispercée sur des dizaines
>>> de groupes et des dizaines de listes ce qui rend la coordination délicate et
>>> le retour d’expérience inexistant.
>>> Il y a eu une première initiative pour regrouper la communauté
>>> http://zied.abid.be/blog/index.php?article3/cullt-reloaded mais ça n'a pas
>>> bien fonctionné.
>>> Dernièrement il y a eu la création d'une association HackerScope
>>> http://hackerspace.tn (liste en copie mem...@hackerspace.tn) qui souhaite
>>> regrouper la communauté Tunisienne du Libre et elle fait du bon travail et
>>> j'espère que tout les membres laisserons leur égoïsme de coté et joindrons
>>> leur efforts car nous avons tous les mêmes objectifs.
>>> D'ailleurs je propose de créer un nom de domaine
>>> www.softwarefreedomday.tn pour regrouper tout ce qui est en relation avec le
>>> SFD Tunisia depuis la première session. Que pensez vous ?
>>> Librement.
>>>
>>> Le 08/08/2012 15:17, Habib M. KAMMOUN a écrit :
>>>
>>> Dear Wassim,
>>>
>>> Ramadhan Mubarak & Thanks for your email!
>>>
>>> SFD is an annual worldwide celebration of Free Software organized by the
>>> DFI (Aka SFI). It can be organized in different regions in the same country.
>>> So, any local team can organize a local SF Day.
>>>
>>> Personally, I heard about the international SFD in 2009 and I saw that
>>> SFD events in Tunisia was organized only in Tunis (capital) with no
>>> participation of clubs outside Tunis. Me and my colleagues in ENIS (Sfax)
>>> planned to organize next year an SFD event in ENIS respecting the same
>>> international day (it was on 18 Sept. 2010).
>>> http://sfd.ieee-enis.org/?page_id=6
>>>
>>> In 2011, since we haven't seen the organization of other SFD event in
>>> Tunis (in 2010 & 2011), we cooperate with the TunAndroid community to
>>> organize a bigger event (called SFD Tunisia) outside Tunis with the
>>> participation of students from different universities in Tunisia (we offered
>>> some buses for students travel) and with the participation of an
>>> international speaker from Google.
>>> This event was selected as one of the best 3 organized events worldwide.
>>>
>>> After this success, we submitted with the TunAndroid Community a proposal
>>> to organize the 1st SFD summit in the Monastir Science Palace. Our proposal
>>> was selected (not yet officially announced) and the summit will be organized
>>> in 2013. http://wiki.softwarefreedomday.org/SfdSummit
>>>
>>> So, in order to prepare a good local organizing team, we plan to organize
>>> an SFD event in the Monastir Science Palace on Saturday 15 September 2012.
>>> Nizar Kerkeni from Ubuntu Tn, Taher Mestiri from TunAndroid, and Me (from
>>> the international engineering association "IEEE") started the organization
>>> of this event. It will be one day (AM for plenary talks and PM for
>>> workshops). we have already a confirmation of participation of a speaker
>>> from Google and the participation of some community in Tunisia. The door
>>> remains open for those we were unable to contact them and want to
>>> participate.
>>> The website of the event will be http://sfd.ieee-enis.org/
>>> A call for participation will be announced soon.
>>>
>>> If no other SFD events will be organized in Tunisia, the Monastir's event
>>> can be called SFD Tunisia.
>>>
>>> I'm surprised to read that we break the chain. Last year, 29 SFD events
>>> was organized in Philippines and 2 of them was selected with us as the top 3
>>> events. So, why only one event in Tunisia?
>>> We haven't closed the doors to anyone who wants to help. Last year:
>>> Ubuntu tn, Mozilla tn, Securinets and others contacted us to participate and
>>> to help in the organization. They were very welcomed!
>>>
>>> Welcome to all volunteer who want to help really! The success of the
>>> event will be a success to all volunteers, participants, and speakers.
>>>
>>> Best Regards & Chahia Taiba,
>>> Habib.
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> Mohamed Habib KAMMOUN
>>>
>>> IEEE, GTUG
>>> Assistant, Department of Computer Science, University of Gafsa, Faculty
>>> of Science, Tunisia.
>>> PhD Student, REGIM: REsearch Group on Intelligent Machines, University of
>>> Sfax, National Engineering School of Sfax (ENIS), Tunisia.
>>> URL: http://kammoun.regim.org/
>>> Tel.: (+216) 98 414 608 - Fax: (+216) 74 408 894
>>> Address: Av. Farhat Hached, 13 Rue BellaRigia - 3000 Sfax - Tunisia
>>>
>>> IEEE ENIS Student Branch: http://www.ieee-enis.org/
>>> IEEE GOLD Tunisia: http://sites.ieee.org/tunisia-gold/
>>> IEEE Sfax Tunisia: http://ewh.ieee.org/r8/tunisia/sfax/
>>> Sfax GTUG: http://sites.google.com/site/sfaxgtug/
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>> REGIM Lab., leading innovative research.
>>> IEEE Fosters Technological Innovation and Excellence for the Benefit of
>>> Humanity.
>>> Google: Don't be evil.
>>> ------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> If you received this communication by mistake, please don't forward it to
>>> anyone else (it may contain confidential or privileged information), please
>>> erase all copies of it, including all attachments, and please let the sender
>>> know it went to the wrong person. Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2012/8/8 Wassim Derguech <dfsa....@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>> Dear SFDTunisia chairs,
>>>>
>>>> SFDTunisia has been organised for 4 years by several contributors from
>>>> 2006 to 2009!
>>>>
>>>> Why breaking the chain and doing things diffrently?
>>>>
>>>> Why not joining efforts of previous seasons and make all contributors
>>>> parts of the organisation!
>>>>
>>>> There is a website [1], a mailing list [2], available materials, etc.
>>>> nothing of these is being reused?
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://sfdtunisia.freehostia.com
>>>> [2] https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!forum/sfd_tunisia
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>> Wassim
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Derguech Wassim -DERWAS-
>>>>
>>>> dfsa.tuxfamily.org
>>>> www.dfsa.org.tn
>>>> dfsa.freehostia.com
>>>> www.sfdtunisia.org
>>>>
>>>> GSM: (+353) 879406596
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Nizar Kerkeni
>>> LoCo ubuntu-tn & ubuntu member
>>> http://www.ubuntu-tn.org
>>> http://blog.nizarus.org
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Derguech Wassim -DERWAS-
>>
>> dfsa.tuxfamily.org
>> www.dfsa.org.tn
>> dfsa.freehostia.com
>> www.sfdtunisia.org
>>
>> GSM: (+353) 879406596
>
>
>
>
> --
> Taher Mestiri
> I.T.Grapes
> Tunandroid.com
> Tunis GTUG
>
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