I wanted to alert people to the fact that we really need your support at the Berkeley ZAB tomorrow night because the Residences at Berkeley Plaza project is in jeopardy. The staff report forWednesday is unfortunate, it severely under values the proposed community benefits package. In particular two tragically flawed financial characterizations of the two most important project benefits.
First, in all four of the City staff’s report on the community benefit options, the union PLA is completely undervalued. The project is going to cost $125MM to build and the PLA is going to cost an additional $12MM to $20MM dollar to achieve. One option has the PLA valued at only $6MM, two options have it valued at $1.8MM, and the last option has it valued at a meager $675K. An outrage to be sure in a community that SAYS it values union labor. Apparently not.
The second and as troublesome issue is the undervaluation of the movie theaters. Our estimates (which are derived from actual data, the staff’s are NOT) has the theaters worth approximately $15MM to $17MM. In one of the staff’s options to ZAB they value the theaters at $6.3MM. The next option has it at $4.1MM, the next option at $2.7MM, and in the final option the theaters are valued at $0. That’s right, $0.
This is an attempt to extort even more money out of the project. The project is already agreeing to pay an in-lieu affordable housing fee of $6,040,000. The project won’t work under any of the options except MAYBE Option 1, which is more than $1MM over our estimates and proposal. That option still undervalues the community benefits, which is going to make it very difficult for the City to attract more of these buildings.
So a vote tomorrow night is still critical – up or down. If the ZAB decides it wants to go with anything beyond Option 1 we don’t have a project and may look for the ZAB to deny it so we can move on to Council. That would be a shame but might be unavoidable if we can't ’pack the chambers tomorrow night to tell the ZAB to recognize the value of the project’s Community Benefits package and overall design after almost three years of good faith effort on our part to deliver what the community has said they wanted…twice.
Remember the project itself is worth approving even without the additional benefits – 302 units of sustainable, transit-oriented housing units. LEED Gold. Transit passes. Car share. Very high quality design. Public plaza. More than $6MM to the Housing Trust Fund. The development project has shown good faith, now it’s time for the Berkeley ZAB to hold up their end of the voters desires and approve the project after almost three years and 35 public hearings.
Who can go to this and who can go to the Oakland meeting that day? Diego is going to Berkely. Ian? Alfred? Who else?--
On Wednesday, September 16, 2015, 'Jon Schwark' via SFBA Renters Federation <SFBAren...@googlegroups.com> wrote:got this on the facebook and twitter. Is there a Facebook event made?--
On Wednesday, September 16, 2015 at 10:12:07 AM UTC-7, emunahhauser wrote:Looking for a satisfying brawl? To be part of history? To make or break the difference whether housing lives or dies?This is IT, the critical moment for housing units in Downtown Berkeley at 2211 Harold Way, the hopeful end of a long road of THREE YEARS of process. Bodies are needed to get it in the basket.Zoning Adjustments Board meetings take place in the Council Chambers
Zoning and Adjustments Board Meeting (with your help, the last)
Wednesday September 30, 7pm
Located on the second floor of:
2134 Martin Luther King, Jr. Way, Berkeley, CA MAP
Message needed: After more than 30 meetings and 3 years of community input, full EIR evaluation, it is time to approve the project at 2211 Harold Way. The project is generously proposing more than $27 million in additional community benefits, which is twice what the Council directed in July. The project provides desperately needed housing, economic vitality, and more safety and foot traffic to the Downtown. We have waited long enough for these benefits and we're happy the project is finally moving forward.
Email members of the Zoning & Adjustments Board via
Secretary of the Board Carol Johnson: cjoh...@ci.berkeley.ca.us , ZAB@CityofBerkeley.info
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/b256b3d6-1987-44a9-8eeb-11994b9f4a0c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
Everything you ever wanted to know about the Housing Accountability Act and our coming suit against the city of Lafayette: Why Are We Suing You? Sunday Sept 27 3-6 pm Lafayette Public Library
Register to vote in your local election: www.rockthevote.com/register-to-vote/ do it by Oct 19th
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAEMAOD58CvNwibMk-4RRSYMEbvbF7NorOHowOz200Z99q904Rg%40mail.gmail.com.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfed+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/b256b3d6-1987-44a9-8eeb-11994b9f4a0c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--Everything you ever wanted to know about the Housing Accountability Act and our coming suit against the city of Lafayette: Why Are We Suing You? Sunday Sept 27 3-6 pm Lafayette Public Library
Register to vote in your local election: www.rockthevote.com/register-to-vote/ do it by Oct 19th
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAEMAOD58CvNwibMk-4RRSYMEbvbF7NorOHowOz200Z99q904Rg%40mail.gmail.com.
Not much needed to answer this completely ridiculous screed, but it was a great laugh."oh the cranes!! they are so dangerous" is probably the most ridiculous thing I have heard a desperate NIMBY say this year, followed closely by many of your other points. Its like you wandered out of a remote village that had never had contact with the modern world.
Also, how about we make a bet Jai... I'll give you 2-1 odds on $100 that says if this building is built it wont be more than 5% vacant within a year of the first unit being occupied.
In regards to water for Harold Way and downtown in
general: EBMUD, in the EIR for Harold Way, has said the sewer
infrastructure is in need of upgrading but the project will not be
upgrading that
infrastructure.
Yes, they will attach a line from the
building to the main 12" sewer line that runs under Allston, just south
of the proposed building but the 12" sewer is old, inadequate and
funneling water use from the thousand or so residents (many will be
students cramming in) into an already deteriorated sewage system is
outrageous.
Additionally, the BHS uses that same sewer line that runs under Allston
and BHS routinely has sewage back up with smelly sewage flowing into the
school. Unsanitary and proof that the sewage infrastructure we have does
not meet the needs we have downtown now.
But ZAB, the council and the
crony insider paid to write the EIR (this EIR author just scored a one
million dollar consultant gig with the city -- do you seriously think he
can be objective in an EIR? he writes to please those who pay him fat
stacks of money) have chosen to ignore the sewer infrastructure issues.
And to the person who said apartments use less water - that is
irrelevant to the problems with water use during YEARS of construction
and ignores the reality of the outdated sewer infrastructure.
And the law provides that the developer has to do needed sewer upgrades
before a build permit can be issued. I go to all ZAB meetings that
address Harold Way. I have heard no one suggest that sewer upgrades are
needed as a condition to the build permit.
Our sewer system was not built to handle Harold Way's many new
residences, and don't forget the first floor retail, restaurants using
lots of water and pressure on the sewer system. It is irrelevant to know
apartment dwellers use less water than house dwellers. The issue are
(1) where will the water come from for these new residents (2) if we
already have sewage back ups with the current inadquate system, how can
ZAB ignore this and allow Harold Way to add more pressure on our
outdated system?
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAGyC%3DJZ1AJZ65BOW2_GhbsLAQd2PVNnYEg-_cc8N2ODbi3zTYw%40mail.gmail.com.
Thanks for sharing your perspective JJ. Keep in mind that you own a home, and most people on this mailing list do not.What would you do if you were a young renter, housing was scarce, and homeowners in the Bay Area fought tooth-and-nail to stop new homes?
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:43 PM, JJ <j...@mightysmallfilms.com> wrote:
Jai JaiThen you will love this, Ian. It seems when profit is involved, common sense seems so "ridiculous." http://www.klclutch.com/cranes/10-famous-crane-collapses/And here is some more to chew on:In regards to water for Harold Way and downtown in general: EBMUD, in the EIR for Harold Way, has said the sewer infrastructure is in need of upgrading but the project will not be upgrading that infrastructure.
Yes, they will attach a line from the building to the main 12" sewer line that runs under Allston, just south of the proposed building but the 12" sewer is old, inadequate and funneling water use from the thousand or so residents (many will be students cramming in) into an already deteriorated sewage system is outrageous.
Additionally, the BHS uses that same sewer line that runs under Allston and BHS routinely has sewage back up with smelly sewage flowing into the school. Unsanitary and proof that the sewage infrastructure we have does not meet the needs we have downtown now.But ZAB, the council and the crony insider paid to write the EIR (this EIR author just scored a one million dollar consultant gig with the city -- do you seriously think he can be objective in an EIR? he writes to please those who pay him fat stacks of money) have chosen to ignore the sewer infrastructure issues.
and this one
And to the person who said apartments use less water - that is irrelevant to the problems with water use during YEARS of construction and ignores the reality of the outdated sewer infrastructure.
And the law provides that the developer has to do needed sewer upgrades before a build permit can be issued. I go to all ZAB meetings that address Harold Way. I have heard no one suggest that sewer upgrades are needed as a condition to the build permit.
Our sewer system was not built to handle Harold Way's many new residences, and don't forget the first floor retail, restaurants using lots of water and pressure on the sewer system. It is irrelevant to know apartment dwellers use less water than house dwellers. The issue are (1) where will the water come from for these new residents (2) if we already have sewage back ups with the current inadquate system, how can ZAB ignore this and allow Harold Way to add more pressure on our outdated system?
http://www.modernluxury.com/san-francisco/story/the-battle-over-san-franciscos-skyline-battle-over-its-soul
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:22 PM, Ian Monroe <ian.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Sep 30, 2015 at 3:12 PM 'Jon Schwark' via SFBA Renters Federation <SFBArentersfed@googlegroups.com> wrote:Not much needed to answer this completely ridiculous screed, but it was a great laugh."oh the cranes!! they are so dangerous" is probably the most ridiculous thing I have heard a desperate NIMBY say this year, followed closely by many of your other points. Its like you wandered out of a remote village that had never had contact with the modern world.
I assume time traveler. 1890s Berkeley man, emerging from his steampunk cryogenic chamber deep under campus, confused by lack of cows in Berkeley. :(Also, how about we make a bet Jai... I'll give you 2-1 odds on $100 that says if this building is built it wont be more than 5% vacant within a year of the first unit being occupied.I've heard Berkeley NIMBYs talk about how such-n-such apartment block has a vacancy so more apartments aren't needed. So 5% vacancy would be clear proof that the apartment building wasn't needed. :DIan
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfed+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAGyC%3DJZ1AJZ65BOW2_GhbsLAQd2PVNnYEg-_cc8N2ODbi3zTYw%40mail.gmail.com.
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/ead776bf-599d-45e4-96b7-14eaa1eea449%40googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBARentersFed-Berkeley" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to sfbarentersfed-be...@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to sfbarenters...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sfbarentersfed-berkeley/CAHh0A5ULQOU%3DtW8v-ZcUUX0F62E9c9UYyFAG%2Bw2B%3DUW-pR2grQ%40mail.gmail.com.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAGyC%3DJZ1AJZ65BOW2_GhbsLAQd2PVNnYEg-_cc8N2ODbi3zTYw%40mail.gmail.com.
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/ead776bf-599d-45e4-96b7-14eaa1eea449%40googlegroups.com.To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAGyC%3DJaX9_DUgTE6%3DJe_KwVqkOd2-qseWYcdk_rZ0v7CH5Pwaw%40mail.gmail.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAH5c7xty8AdEDtMSHf1U0X6zaaKBhXE87Z4pToZ3k-7FEEYLVQ%40mail.gmail.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAM3QLJX%3De4a8o4Fy6eDE2h73ZkOdV6Eqze%3DjGfS-Pqnrq6oSyQ%40mail.gmail.com.
| 6:16 PM (0 minutes ago) ![]() | ![]() ![]() | ||
| ||||
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/08FA04CD-2379-4127-BA74-98A3A7B710C4%40gmail.com.
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfed+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/b256b3d6-1987-44a9-8eeb-11994b9f4a0c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--Everything you ever wanted to know about the Housing Accountability Act and our coming suit against the city of Lafayette: Why Are We Suing You? Sunday Sept 27 3-6 pm Lafayette Public Library
Register to vote in your local election: www.rockthevote.com/register-to-vote/ do it by Oct 19th
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAEMAOD58CvNwibMk-4RRSYMEbvbF7NorOHowOz200Z99q904Rg%40mail.gmail.com.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/b256b3d6-1987-44a9-8eeb-11994b9f4a0c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--Everything you ever wanted to know about the Housing Accountability Act and our coming suit against the city of Lafayette: Why Are We Suing You? Sunday Sept 27 3-6 pm Lafayette Public Library
Register to vote in your local election: www.rockthevote.com/register-to-vote/ do it by Oct 19th
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAEMAOD58CvNwibMk-4RRSYMEbvbF7NorOHowOz200Z99q904Rg%40mail.gmail.com.
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfed+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/b256b3d6-1987-44a9-8eeb-11994b9f4a0c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--Everything you ever wanted to know about the Housing Accountability Act and our coming suit against the city of Lafayette: Why Are We Suing You? Sunday Sept 27 3-6 pm Lafayette Public Library
Register to vote in your local election: www.rockthevote.com/register-to-vote/ do it by Oct 19th
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAEMAOD58CvNwibMk-4RRSYMEbvbF7NorOHowOz200Z99q904Rg%40mail.gmail.com.
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfed+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/b256b3d6-1987-44a9-8eeb-11994b9f4a0c%40googlegroups.com.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
--Everything you ever wanted to know about the Housing Accountability Act and our coming suit against the city of Lafayette: Why Are We Suing You? Sunday Sept 27 3-6 pm Lafayette Public Library
Register to vote in your local election: www.rockthevote.com/register-to-vote/ do it by Oct 19th
--
This list too heavy for you? Join the ANNOUNCEMENTS ONLY list: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/sfbarentersfed-announce and unsubscribe from this list. Instructions immediately below \/ \/ \/
---
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "SFBA Renters Federation" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to SFBArentersfe...@googlegroups.com.
To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/SFBArentersfed/CAEMAOD58CvNwibMk-4RRSYMEbvbF7NorOHowOz200Z99q904Rg%40mail.gmail.com.