PARK CLOSED FOR A YEAR OR MORE

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Jay Hannah

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Jan 16, 2015, 9:45:10 AM1/16/15
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The Iowa DNR has informed us that the park will be closed for a year or more. For updates please contact David Downing, District 3 ATV/Snowmobile Coordinator 515-281-3449 (O) 515-238-3564 (C) David....@dnr.iowa.gov

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Jay Hannah

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On Jan 16, 2015, at 8:45 AM, Jay Hannah <secr...@rvtr.org> wrote:
> The Iowa DNR has informed us that the park will be closed for a year or more. For updates please contact David Downing, District 3 ATV/Snowmobile Coordinator 515-281-3449 (O) 515-238-3564 (C) David....@dnr.iowa.gov

Additional contact information:

http://www.iowadnr.gov/portals/idnr/uploads/contacts/co_map.pdf

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blazer0319

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Jan 16, 2015, 10:35:41 AM1/16/15
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This is sad to hear as a lot of people enjoy this park and the ones who follow the rules pay to register their machines. Part of that money is supposed to go to the parks in this state. It seems like this park is closed more than its open. Once again something in council bluffs is put aside "neglected" and once again we have lost something for the youth to do. I have participated in work days and enjoy it and am ready to make this park enjoyable again!


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The Iowa DNR has informed us that the park will be closed for a year or more. For updates please contact David Downing, District 3 ATV/Snowmobile Coordinator 515-281-3449 (O) 515-238-3564 (C) David....@dnr.iowa.gov

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DOUGLAS THOMSEN

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Jan 16, 2015, 10:57:25 AM1/16/15
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A little bit of information as to why the park is closed from the DNR website:

At this time, the River Valley OHV Park in Council Bluffs is closed for riding or any use. A forestry plan to address the hazards posed by flood-damaged trees is being developed. Until the park can be safely used, it will remain closed. For updates or questions, please contact David Downing at 515-238-3564.

Downing, David [DNR]

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Jan 16, 2015, 11:05:49 AM1/16/15
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The park may be closed for a period to allow for a possible logging contract. Then the area will be reopened as soon as possible. We have dead cottonwood trees that are up to 100feet high that falling over the entire trail system. The only way to effectively and safely log the area is to close the park during the process. The club can then focus on trail work rather than falling trees. We will also get a steel fence installed along the levy to curtail illegal riding that jeopardizes the future use of the area. This is a rider safety issue.

A press release with more details will follow next week.

David

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DOUGLAS THOMSEN

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Jan 16, 2015, 11:10:07 AM1/16/15
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Thanks David, great information.

Doug Bauch

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Jan 16, 2015, 11:26:39 AM1/16/15
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I agree with Blazer. We live in Lincoln and ride there the last two years. The Club has worked hard to have this park, keep it up, etc. and this is out of their control.

We've done two workdays and do clean up during every trip. Many trees have degraded, so safety is an issue, but a year or more to do removal is excessive, likely due to State Govt managing it.  How about opening public 'logging' of the marked trees and have it done in a few months?  Sign a waiver to eliminate risk, have a DNR person oversee the process, etc. Very disappointed in the tree issue the last 12-15 months.

The other IA DNR parks are 4+ hours away, so we'll go to Genoa, Tuttle Creek and Milford Lake this year - nor permits or fees.  Also found one in Shawnee County KS, outskirts of Topeka, that operates like River Valley - club manages, good community relations, no permits or fees.
 

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Carroll "Carlito" Keenan

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A little longer and that is going to be a Premiere Park. Ill have my race bikes back by the time its open.

Thanks for the SOLID INTEL and for the RVTR Members help

S/F Frank Hummel

Semper Fidelis or Best Regards

Anthony Arterburn

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Jan 16, 2015, 11:58:19 AM1/16/15
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Where are we suppose to ride?

timp

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Jan 16, 2015, 12:04:26 PM1/16/15
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so let me get this right you are saying that tey are removing trees from
trails ect??? then work on trails is that my ubderstanding???? because they
need work of all kiinds.. the park will be closed for over a year are you
kidding me a year or more ?????
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The park may be closed for a period to allow for a possible logging
contract. Then the area will be reopened as soon as possible. We have dead
cottonwood trees that are up to 100feet high that falling over the entire
trail system. The only way to effectively and safely log the area is to
close the park during the process. The club can then focus on trail work
rather than falling trees. We will also get a steel fence installed along
the levy to curtail illegal riding that jeopardizes the future use of the
area. This is a rider safety issue.

A press release with more details will follow next week.

David

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Miller, Chris

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Jan 16, 2015, 12:17:05 PM1/16/15
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I really enjoy bluffs creek. The photo on this door is one of my camp sites. If you hasn't made the trip. Its a great piece of land.

Shame we lost the local trails, but here are some others to "get by".
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Billy Chapman

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Jan 16, 2015, 12:52:23 PM1/16/15
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I agree with Doug. A year or more to log dangerous trees from I think less than four hundred acres is way excessive!

Downing, David [DNR]

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Jan 16, 2015, 1:13:31 PM1/16/15
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It may not be a year. The logging company would obviously go as fast as possible. The idea is your safety and maintain the area for years to come.

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I agree with Doug. A year or more to log dangerous trees from I think less than four hundred acres is way excessive!

On Jan 16, 2015 10:26 AM, "'Doug Bauch' via River Valley Trail Riders" <RiverValley...@googlegroups.com<mailto:RiverValley...@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
I agree with Blazer. We live in Lincoln and ride there the last two years. The Club has worked hard to have this park, keep it up, etc. and this is out of their control.

We've done two workdays and do clean up during every trip. Many trees have degraded, so safety is an issue, but a year or more to do removal is excessive, likely due to State Govt managing it. How about opening public 'logging' of the marked trees and have it done in a few months? Sign a waiver to eliminate risk, have a DNR person oversee the process, etc. Very disappointed in the tree issue the last 12-15 months.

The other IA DNR parks are 4+ hours away, so we'll go to Genoa, Tuttle Creek and Milford Lake this year - nor permits or fees. Also found one in Shawnee County KS, outskirts of Topeka, that operates like River Valley - club manages, good community relations, no permits or fees.

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This is sad to hear as a lot of people enjoy this park and the ones who follow the rules pay to register their machines. Part of that money is supposed to go to the parks in this state. It seems like this park is closed more than its open. Once again something in council bluffs is put aside "neglected" and once again we have lost something for the youth to do. I have participated in work days and enjoy it and am ready to make this park enjoyable again!


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The Iowa DNR has informed us that the park will be closed for a year or more. For updates please contact David Downing, District 3 ATV/Snowmobile Coordinator 515-281-3449<tel:515-281-3449> (O) 515-238-3564<tel:515-238-3564> (C) David....@dnr.iowa.gov<mailto:David....@dnr.iowa.gov>

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Downing, David [DNR]

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Here is another update. Once the logging contract has been cleared, the logging can be done rather quickly. Depending on the time of the year the contract would begin, and the weather, the logging should take only a couple of months.  We will know more as the bid process begins.

 

David

Doug Bauch

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Jan 16, 2015, 1:26:12 PM1/16/15
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Great updates Dave.

Billy Chapman

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I think we all agree this needs to be done for the safety of the riders and the long term use of the park. I also think that everybody is just frustrated from not being able to ride. For so long. It seems like our machines are at rest more than at use. Thanks for the info and all your hard work David. 
Billy

Ted Dickerson

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Jay,

Thanks for the update. I greatly apreciate your hard work and dedication to keeping the park operational.  Most of us are aware of the damage caused by flooding and storms and we're thankful for the efforts of the committee and volunteers.

Continue to keep us posted and let us know of how we can help.

Thanks once again!

Ted

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Anthony Arterburn

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Good to know thanks man

timp

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just wondering if there is any new news to know about??? tim.
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Downing, David [DNR]

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We are getting ready to start bid process for timber sale.

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just wondering if there is any new news to know about??? tim.
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Where are we suppose to ride?

On Jan 16, 2015 8:45 AM, "Jay Hannah" <secr...@rvtr.org<mailto:secr...@rvtr.org>> wrote:
The Iowa DNR has informed us that the park will be closed for a year or more. For updates please contact David Downing, District 3 ATV/Snowmobile Coordinator 515-281-3449<tel:515-281-3449> (O) 515-238-3564<tel:515-238-3564> (C) David....@dnr.iowa.gov<mailto:David....@dnr.iowa.gov>

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Timber sale?  Does that mean rvtr will get some funding out of this situation?

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Yes.

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Timber sale? Does that mean rvtr will get some funding out of this situation?

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> We are getting ready to start bid process for timber sale.
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> The Iowa DNR has informed us that the park will be closed for a year or more. For updates please contact David Downing, District 3 ATV/Snowmobile Coordinator 515-281-3449<tel:515-281-3449> (O) 515-238-3564<tel:515-238-3564> (C) David....@dnr.iowa.gov<mailto:David....@dnr.iowa.gov><mailto:David....@dnr.iowa.gov<mailto:David....@dnr.iowa.gov>>
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any new news on whats going on?? when will they start????you know the riders need more then one place to ride here is there any other trails in this erea to ride ????? thank you tim..
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I really enjoy bluffs creek. The photo on this door is one of my camp sites. If you hasn't made the trip. Its a great piece of land.

Shame we lost the local trails, but here are some others to "get by".

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