24.09.2024., u 14:57, korisnik Jochen Deprez <deprez...@gmail.com> je napisao:
Hello everyone,
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Hi Jochen and Richard,
This is a very interesting example indeed.
I do not have a lot to say about the suggestions Richard made, except that this is very well done IMHO! May also be a very good source of inspiration for the FAQ in the guidelines 😉
Of course, once you start to consider and model such metadata as a graph of linked entities, you realize that this graph can be enlarged and refined 'at will', i.e. as much as necessary - this is one of its most remarkable features. For example, we could imagine that it is in fact people - employees of the organization - who destroyed the documents, or that some software is involved in the process. We could also categorize the different activities using instances of ActivityType. We could represent more accurately the rules applied. And we could work on representing the modalities of access and use of documents; to do this in a very structured way and in accordance with what a records management system would require, it would probably be necessary to add classes to RiC-O, like ConditionsOfAccess and ConditionsOfUse (we just have datatype properties for now in RiC-O; representing those as classes is in our roadmap ;-). And, obviously, the record sets themselves result from other Activities. Etc.
I agree with the idea that appraisal concerns Record resources, as it is about evaluating their content first. Destruction would concern both the Record Resource evaluated and it various instantiations, if it has several ones, in the broader set in
which it is included. In some situations, the digital instantiations could be kept. This would of course not mean at all that the metadata that describe the deleted items do not remain available. Also, of course there may be drafts or copies of the deleted records
and instantiations elsewhere. One of the challenges archivists are facing nowadays is indeed to be able to evaluate a record set, taking into account the fact that there exist elsewhere other records which are originals or copies of those records (thus having
quite the same content), or instantiations of those records. We can imagine in the future that
deciding what to do (for example deciding which appraisal rules can be applied to some records) may be facilitated if those records sets can be connected to each other using relations like the ones RiC provides, based on the activities they result from.
Well I am digressing 😊
And yes, it would be great if RiC can help build bridges between the world of records management and the world of archival/historical records keeping. This would be very beneficial for data exchange and interoperability, and for the general public.
As far as I know, at least in France, records managers do not use ISAD(G), ISAAR(CPF) or ISDF so frequently. For many reasons, RiC might be more interesting for them. We should probably work together to make it better. There already have been some discussions
between EGAD and the WG which maintains ISO 23081.
Jochen, IMHO you should not use Protégé for editing RiC-O datasets directly, but only for testing the ontology on real use cases during the first steps of a project, or for browsing or extending the ontology. Protégé is an ontology editor, not a software for producing or managing RDF individuals. If you need to produce RDF datasets and are starting from an existing RM system, you could, as a first step, try to design and apply a conversion tool for data exported from the RM system, or ask some company to do so. When you get significant amounts of RDF datasets, you will need a graph base to store, manage and query them. GraphDB is a very good one; there are other tools of the kind. You may also choose to move, in the end, to a new system that would be based on RiC, would enable archovists to esaily edit RiC-based metadata and perform activities, and would at least expose your metadata as Linked Open Data (RDF). For now, RiC is too recent a standard and dedicated complete tools based on it are rare. If you can understand French, you might have a look at the presentation that Jan Krause-Bilvin did about the docuteam software suite on September 10th during the 3rd French webinar on RiC (slides and viedo recording to be published soon).
This is only my two cents.
All the best,
Florence
Florence Clavaud
Executive member of ICA/EGAD ; lead of RiC-O development team
Conservatrice générale du patrimoine | General curator
Responsable du Lab des Archives nationales de France| head of the Lab, Archives nationales de France
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Dear Jochen,
Just to react to some of your lines below:
- I fully understand what you said about your institution not willing to fund a change of your system to move to a RiC-based one just now. You could then work on a smaller project or prototype/proof of concept one, outside of the system, just to help the head of your institution understand the benefits and what is at stake. The RiC-AG should also provide more information about these topics, and about some projects, like the one at the Amsterdam City Archives where a new system is being built.
- about the French webinars that took place in June and September: you could for now have a look at the slides and material on the first and second one. See this message: https://groups.google.com/g/Records_in_Contexts_users/c/sH2ed6FLhWo/m/dVwsgCgqAwAJ
The slides of the 3rd webinar (which was about the RiC scene in Switzerland), and video recordings of the whole, should be available soon (I will try to publish them next week).
- In France many archival institutions, or libraries holding manuscripts and archival fonds, use EAD (and sometimes EAC) as they are compliant with the former ICA ISAD(G) and ISAAR(CPF) standards. This has been a recommendation from the central administrations
for years.
At the Archives nationales de France where I am working, this has been the case since the early 2000s. Which results in a huge corpus of about 32,000 EAD finding aids (so about 11 million ISAD(G) 'units of description') and 16,000 EAC-CPF authority records,
which are continuously evolving. We also have vocabularies, authority records about places, and metadata desribing records in many other formats, and many issues (silos, redundancies, quality issues, etc.), and moving to a new data-centered, hopefully RiC-based
system, will take a lot of time.
Anyway, we (I mean the team being now the Lab, which is in charge of the LOD projects here) started to use RiC-O in 2017, and, among many other projects, we developed, with the Sparna private company, an EAD and EAC-CPF to RiC-O (0.2) converter open
source software, which is fast, reliable, powerful and can be adapted. We use it for many projects.
See the source code and documentation here:
https://github.com/ArchivesNationalesFR/rico-converter.
And also this article :
https://doi.org/10.1145/3583592
Let me add that we are going to develop a version 3 of RiC-O Converter just now, in order to move to RiC-O 1.0, among other features (see the issues opened on GitHub). This should be done by the end of this year I think. Do not hesitate to contact
us if you have questions about this tool!
Best regards,
Florence
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