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Micah Sifry

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:26:49 PM2/8/10
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Michael Moffo

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:31:56 PM2/8/10
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First off, does everyone agree that it's in our best interest to acknowledge this as another "baby step" by the White House. Essentially, it is the White House acknowledging the value of these exchanges--and the pressure we're applying is effecting decision-making.  BUT BUT BUT, these baby steps are designed to ultimately avoid an actual commitment for regularly scheduled encounters.

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Micah Sifry

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:38:06 PM2/8/10
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Agree. The tricky thing is this gets political very quickly. The less DQT is sucked into supporting one-off events tied to a specific agenda ("pass health care!" "restart health care") the better, methinks.

see below.

Micah

GOP cool to Obama call for two-party health talks

By CHARLES BABINGTON, Associated Press Writer Charles Babington, Associated Press Writer 26 mins ago

WASHINGTON – Republicans gave a chilly reception Monday to President Barack Obama's invitation to discuss health care in a bipartisan, televised setting later this month, part of the White House effort to revive the stalled legislation.

The House and Senate GOP leaders said Obama and his fellow Democrats must shelve their long-debated health care bill, which was on the verge of becoming law until Republican Scott Brown won a special Senate election in Massachusetts last month. The White House says Obama has no plans to do so but is willing to hear Republicans' ideas.

Rep. Darrell Issa of California, the top Republican on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, said Monday that the first question for Obama should be: "Did you lie about moving forward on malpractice reform?" He was alluding to the president's earlier remarks about possibly curbing malpractice lawsuits, which is not included in the health bills passed separately by House and Senate Democrats in December.

In the first major move to jump-start his health care agenda after his party's loss of a filibuster-proof Senate majority, Obama on Sunday invited GOP and Democratic leaders to discuss possible compromises in a half-day, televised gathering on Feb. 25.

It comes amid widespread complaints that Democrats' efforts so far have been too partisan and secretive.

The meeting's prospects for success are far from clear. GOP leaders insisted on starting from scratch. But many Democrats want to use their party's remaining parliamentary muscle to enact their plans with as few changes as possible.

"If we are to reach a bipartisan consensus, the White House can start by shelving the current health spending bill," said Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.

But House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer, D-Md., said his earlier efforts to reach out to Republicans "did not result in any serious follow through to work together in a bipartisan fashion."

Obama told CBS's Katie Couric that he and the leaders of both parties will "go through systematically all the best ideas that are out there and move it forward."

Asked if he was willing to start from square one, the president said he wants "to look at the Republican ideas that are out there."

"If we can go step by step through a series of these issues and arrive at some agreements," Obama said, "then procedurally, there's no reason why we can't do it a lot faster than the process took last year."

Democratic and Republican leaders in Congress have differed sharply on most major questions in the long-running health care debate. Only one Republican voted for the health care bill that the House approved in November, and no Republicans voted for a similar Senate version.

Many liberal groups want congressional Democrats to enact the health care bill that the Senate passed on Christmas Eve, employing rules that could bypass GOP filibusters to make changes demanded by House Democrats.

The White House has not ruled out such a strategy. But Obama's recent talk of inviting Republican input and extending the debate for several weeks has caused uncertainty about his plans.

A White House statement Sunday said Obama repeatedly has made it clear "that he's adamant about passing comprehensive reform similar to the bills passed by the House and the Senate."

Polls show that many Americans feel Obama and his congressional allies have not sought enough GOP input, although Democrats say Republicans have shown virtually no interest in seeking a realistic agreement.

Obama also is trying to address criticism of Democrats' closed-door negotiations that led to special accommodations for Nebraska and Louisiana senators when their votes on health care were in question. Some Republicans taunted Obama for suggesting earlier that health care negotiations should be aired on C-SPAN, and one GOP senator said health care would be the president's Waterloo.

Obama said the closed-door deal-cutting was not helpful to the process.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said, "we have promoted the pursuit of a bipartisan approach to health reform from day one."

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:37:13 PM2/8/10
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I dunno. Are the GOPers calling it a stunt? We have to find a way of noting that Obama and the GOPers both see the political advantage of questions and transparency without looking like we're endorsing anything short of QT. We can also look for a sophisticated way of saying, this may be fine, but they're ducking the real issue.
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Micah Sifry

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:42:12 PM2/8/10
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The good news about this, if it actually happens, is that it keeps the meme going -- Americans want to see their elected representatives in direct, unfiltered, live, respectful, dialogue. If the White House manages to actually pull this event together, we certainly are in the middle of that conversation as it plays out...

Mindy Finn

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Feb 8, 2010, 1:43:32 PM2/8/10
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I agree. The reason we are not satisfied with "spontaneous" events is it opens the door for either the President or the opposition party to set an event on their terms, to advance their political agenda.

That's the same objection that GOPers have to the health care summit. They are receptive to meeting with the President to talk about health care, even at the White House at a time the President requests, but they oppose doing so when the terms of that discussion are limited by the President's agenda.

Micah Sifry

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Feb 8, 2010, 2:22:57 PM2/8/10
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Well said, Mindy. Let's watch closely how this develops and get ready to circulate a short statement once it clarifies. Anyone want to start drafting, go ahead...

Jon Henke

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Feb 8, 2010, 3:35:08 PM2/8/10
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Both sides are nervous about letting the other control the agenda and optics of these things, which is why everybody is willing to say "we've told them the door is open", but nobody is actually willing to walk half-way.  I think we need to be wary of supporting any "they can come to us to talk about X" initiatives, lest we implicitly give support to what feels like, or actually may be, a bit of a trap.  I'm not saying this particular invitation is a trap, but the incentive to gradually control and manipulate this kind of event will be irresistible.

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