Reminder on replies re:Cold Moon

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Christopher S. Penn

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Jan 21, 2008, 9:37:31 AM1/21/08
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Hi folks,

Based on the number of messages in the queue, it appears that more
than a few folks are hitting reply to one of Mr. Merz's posts on the
list and sending customer service inquiries to the mailing list
instead. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns about your
copy of the book, please open your email software of choice, start a
new message, and email Jon at zr...@earthlink.net directly.

Do not hit reply - hitting reply on a post from the Quest List sends
your reply back to the list moderation queue, and a couple of folks
have sent along relatively sensitive personal financial information
which I've of course deleted for your safety.

Many thanks!

Christopher S. Penn
Quest List Admin
Boston, MA

Mike Bruce

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Jan 23, 2008, 4:48:58 AM1/23/08
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Hi all, nor sure if Mr Penn works solo on the Quest list but I'm sure you'll join me in offering thanks to all involved.
As someone who once accidentally put personal info on a post, which I understand Mr Penn edited ( thank you ) I have reason to be grateful for his diligence in these matters.
Kind Regards
 
Mike Bruce
 
LDS / Ten Chi Jin Dojo
Edinburgh
Scotland





> Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2008 06:37:31 -0800
> Subject: [Quest List] Reminder on replies re:Cold Moon
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Christopher S. Penn

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Jan 23, 2008, 9:00:38 AM1/23/08
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Many thanks for the kind words, Mike.

I cannot emphasize strongly enough how important it is to be mindful
of Google's watchful eye online. It is literally everywhere, and it
does not forget.

Google searches, indexes, and stores copies of every public web page,
public forum, public discussion board, public email list it can find.
Google Orion monitors not just what you search for, but how you behave
when you search, how long it takes you to locate things, and what you
do when you find something.
Google News stores all of the news it can find in newspapers, radio,
and television.
Google Feedburner stores all of the RSS feeds and other news feeds it
can find - and who subscribes to them.
Google Reader tracks and stores all of the blogs you subscribe to and
what items you deem important enough to share.
Google Maps provides geographic data and in return tracks exactly what
you're looking for and where on the earth it is.
Google Blog Search stores and remembers what you blog about on your
personal blog.
Google AdWords watches what ads it shows and what ads you click on,
how often, and when.
Google 411 stores how you pronounce words and uses its speech
recognition to analyze non-text data.
Google YouTube tracks what videos you watch, share, promote, and
enjoy.
Google Chat stores and searches what you discuss in instant messaging.
Google Pagerank algorithm tracks who links to web pages of yours and
who you link to, diagramming out important nodes.
Google Android will bring these capabilities and monitoring powers to
your phone.
Google OpenSocial will bring these capabilities to social networks
like MySpace and Facebook.

This places a unique burden on forum and discussion moderators, not
only to keep discussions civil, but also to be mindful of how Google
will perceive the words and activities of forum members. When An-Shu
Hayes permitted us to have a Quest discussion list back in 1997, there
was no Google's omniscient eye. Today, every single member of the
Quest List, in your discussions and posts, reinforces what Google
thinks, believes, and shares about To-Shin Do and the work of An-Shu
Hayes, directly from the mouths and keyboards of the To-Shin Do
community.

If you post frivolity or openly hostile content to the list (assuming
it would be permitted to be posted) Google adds that to its knowledge
index about *what To-Shin Do is about*. The reputation of the art, of
the dojo you train at, and ultimately of An-Shu Hayes takes a ding
whenever someone behaves irresponsibly here or in any other forum, and
not just among martial artists, but among anyone who uses Google's
myriad services to find information.

Mindfulness is absolutely imperative in the age of Google. Write,
discuss, and share like the person you want to become, even if you
aren't that person today, because Google will remember you based on
what you publicly create online. For forum moderators, mailing list
managers, and community developers like myself, it is our obligation
to create, manage, and moderate forums like the Quest List to be
perceived by the general public in alignment with who we want to be,
even if we as a community aren't there just yet.

Hopefully, this post will also help give you some insight about why
some moderation decisions are made the way they are. One good post
lifts the entire To-Shin Do community up in reputation, if only a
little in Google's massive knowledgebase. One bad post drags us all
down. We are now, more than ever, interdependent on each other.

Christopher Penn

Johnnie L. Mock

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Jan 23, 2008, 9:41:40 AM1/23/08
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Thank you for sharing this Chris,

I had no idea that Google kept track of this amount of information. This is
good to know,

Best regards,
Johnnie Mock
Former Dayton Dojo


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Feb 10, 2008, 2:05:31 PM2/10/08
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