Talat Hussain's shameless attempt to defame Angelina Julie
Jawad - USA
In essence, Hussain went on a diatribe against Jolie's personal life, her
"immoral" lifestyle, her allegedly selfish and cut-throat nature, her alleged
hypocrisy and manipulation in adopting children and even her "plain" looks -
most of his 'facts' are in fact made up or sensationalized - only to build the
case, right at the end, that even an 'immoral and wayward woman' like Jolie was
deserving of more respect than the government since she at least criticized it
for its peripheral preoccupations during the flood crisis. If you think that is
a rather convoluted way of attacking the government, you would be dead right.
What Hussain has actually shown up with his words is his own sexism, his own
bigotry, his own racism (he actually derides Jolie's children as "rang barangay
yateem bachay" or 'multi-coloured orphan kids'), his own homophobia and his own
amazingly parochial nature. He has conclusively proved, if it needed to be
proved, that the paet ki daarrhi (beard in the stomach i.e. concealed bigotry)
has a way of coming out at some point or the other. He has also shown how some
hypocrites in the media write in one style for the Urdu-reading public and
maintain quite a different persona for the English readership (perhaps he
thought those who read English papers would never actually read his column in
Urdu).
But you could not possibly understand why I say all of this without reading the
article itself. For those who cannot read the purple prose in the original Urdu,
here is my translation of it which tries to remain as true as possible to
Hussain's style and meaning:
|
Jolie’s Slap in the Face By Syed Talat Hussain "Hollywood superstar Angelina Jolie’s life is a tortuous and colourful tale. This 36-year-old woman has suffered all those misfortunes about which her fans (I am not one of them) are all praise [sic] and which some of them enjoy thinking about. At a very tender age, she had adopted many of the habits of adulthood because father and mother could not bear living together and so this little girl and her brother were forced to live outside a family structure, with her mother. Madam hated traditions right from the start and thus constantly ran away from home to try and live life on her own terms. Finally, bidding farewell to even these broken relationships, she began working in the theatre (In America, theatre and prostitution are two different professions, readers are advised not to draw the wrong conclusions based on Pakistan’s example). Because her looks were average, she couldn’t make much of a mark in acting. If one takes a look at Angelina Jolie’s photographs from that time, her face wouldn’t even invite a second glance: hollow cheeks, triangular nose, big startled-looking eyes and lips like an uncovered clay pot, no glow on her face nor the vitality of youth in her body. This is why, in order to advance her film career, she relied on marriages. She established relationships with well known filmmakers and thus inducted herself in the race for big budget films. Then with unflagging energy she worked hard to convert those opportunities into making a name for herself that is the envy of every good actress. Angelina’s personal life is full of going against all those values that in every society lay the foundations of distinguishing good from bad. She is famously known as someone who can cross any limits to achieve her objectives. Her critics bestow titles such as “Sorceress” and “Queen of Hell” on her. In circles close to her it is said that, were murder not punishable by life in prison, Angelina Jolie would quite happily kill with her own hands any woman or man who came in her way, because softness is not part of her character. According to some reports, the lady treats substance addiction like a profession and every year experiments with new substances to regularly nurture this disease. Besides her ambition for climbing the ladder of success, she also enjoys loving women (what you understand from this is right!). According to a recent newspaper report, Angelina Jolie calls herself the mistress of Sapphic love and considers these despicable experiences among the best of her life. According to her, only a woman can really understand the delicate emotions of another woman. Men, despite all their attempts, can never achieve the standard that is the apogee of women’s real desires. Angelina Jolie has also made provisions to deflect attention away from these dark aspects of her life. That is why she has adopted multi-coloured orphaned kids to project herself as the goddess of motherly warmth and empathy. Her expert public relations machine has presented these aspects of her in such an effective way that the United Nations appointed this Hollywood actress as a goodwill ambassador. What special education or skills Angelina possesses to be appointed to this position, we do not know. Up until now, her biography does not reveal any period in which she shows herself to be proving her mastery of international affairs. In a life studded with addiction and intoxication and moral waywardness, if there is any glittering star, it is her efforts in the profession of film. Other than that, this lady does not live up to any standards and then Eastern standards are far higher than her character demonstrates. If you have any doubt about this claim, open up the Constitution of Pakistan. Take out Articles 62 and 63. What do they say? Does it not say this: We who consider ourselves the flag-bearers of Eastern traditions, will consider those the best amongst us, who in addition to achieving excellence in other affairs, “possess a good character, do not go against the laws of Islam, do not commit great sins, are pious, and not involved in moral turpitude” etc. etc.? Our concept of piety is rooted in the assumption that those people who do not possess these traits in their personal life cannot have a position of respect in society. Be it in everyday life or matters of state, characters like Angelina Jolie, be they Muslim or non-Muslim, should remain deprived of respect. Indeed, had Angelina Jolie admitted to her shenanigans while living in Pakistan, she would have been stoned to death many times over. But even this filmic woman drowning in her Westernisms has enough of a glimmer of values remaining in her to understand that pushing and shoving distressed flood affected people because of [official] protocol is a bad thing. In her report to the UN upon her return back from Pakistan, Angelina Jolie has expressed surprise that, at a time when 10 million people are restless with hunger, she was feted like royalty in the Prime Minister House. The prime minister’s family traveled in a special plane to come and meet her and give her gifts. This report is such a slap on the face that, if a person’s blood is not already cold, the redness of his cheeks would be visible to the entire nation. I don’t know why, after this report of her experiences in Pakistan, this Hollywood actress seems more worthy of respect than her prominent hosts. And I wonder if the hosts have learnt any lessons from this actress’ morals." |
Just to set the record straight about Jolie:
1. She has been married twice, to actors Johnny Lee Miller and Billy Bob
Thornton, neither of whom fall in the category of people who could give her a
leg up in big budget films (in fact, how many people even know who Miller is?).
She currently lives with actor Brad Pitt, whom she met long after she had become
famous, and she has publicly said that she does not want to marry again until
gay people also have the same right.
2. She has won one Oscar for Best Supporting Actress, two Screen Actors Guild
awards and three Golden Globe awards, hardly someone you would classify as a
non-serious actor who only got to stardom by sleeping her way through. In fact,
there is no evidence (documented or gossiped about) of relationships with any
directors or producers.
3. Where Hussain picked up his quotes about Jolie's intensely ambitious nature
is a complete mystery (maybe Hussain spends his time reading The National
Enquirer or has a yen for Brad Pitt's ex, Jennifer Aniston). In fact, Jolie has
often expressed a desire to quit acting altogether to spend more time with her
family.
4. She has never been accused, to my knowledge, of substance addiction, though
she has admitted experimenting with drugs in her teenage years and has openly
talked about her rebellious phase during adolescence.
5. The post of Goodwill Ambassador at the UN is predicated only on celebrities
who wish to use their fame to advocate for causes the UN agencies wish to bring
attention to. It has nothing to do with being experts in international
relations. Jolie was appointed Goodwill Ambassador by the United Nations High
Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) because she is a famous actress, not because of
the children she adopted.
Contrary to the sensationalist claptrap that this article peddles about Jolie,
this is what we DO learn without doubt about Syed Talat Hussain from this
article:
1. He believes all divorced or single parent families are unnatural and it is
impossible to grow up happy or well-adjusted in them.
2. He hates people who hate traditions, no matter how stifling, and rebel
against them.
3. He thinks all theatre actors in Pakistan are prostitutes. Actresses and
perhaps all showbiz people are not worthy of any respect.
4. He enjoys making fun of people's looks, even if they are adolescent children.
5. He thinks that anyone who rebels against society's norms is destroying the
good in society. Anyone who advocates equal rights for people based not on their
gender, race or sexual orientation - as Jolie does - is the scum of the earth.
6. He has no problem making **** up to justify his claims.
7. He really, and I mean REALLY, hates gay people or even those who try and
break down the barriers of discrimination against them through their words. He
thinks of homosexuality as moral turpitude and despicable.
8. He can't imagine how any woman might find more fulfillment from another woman
than a virile man.
9. He mocks children.
10. He has deep-rooted racial prejudices.
11. He thinks adoption is unnatural and is done out of pity by people as a
public relations exercise.
12. He thinks everyone in the UN is a moron who gets fooled easily by PR machines.
13. He is xenophobic and thinks there is a clear line between Western and
"superior" Eastern values. He also believes the West is irretrievably morally
"corrupt" as evidenced by the 'looseness' of its women.
14. He thinks Article 62 and 63 of the Pakistan Constitution - inserted by the
hypocritical dictator General Ziaul Haq to manipulate the parliament - are the
epitome of Eastern values.
15. He thinks stoning people to death for their personal lifestyle choices or
expression of opinion is acceptable.
16. He thinks it is okay to throw mud on someone's personal life to titillate
readers as long as you are just marshalling your sleaze to make an unconnected
point. Even if that person is completely unknown to you and has only gone out of
their way to garner sympathy for the same people you claim to be fighting for.
Most people probably do not remember the fact that this cretin of a
pseudo-intellectual was often himself accused (unfairly in my opinion), in the
early part of his journalistic career, of being an empty-headed boy-toy for his
female boss. They also probably do not remember the vile homophobic rant he once
wrote (about 10 years or so ago) as an op-ed in The News, which is no longer
available in the archives on the net (if anyone can find it, please do send it
along to us). But we do, even if Hussain has tried to erase this past with a
carefully cultivated image of sensibility and balance. Most, however, might
recall that he is as fond of invoking the bogey of "liberal extremist", to label
anyone who argues for secularism or progressive politics or offers dissent
against antiquated societal norms, as people like Shireen Mazari, Ahmad Quraishi,
Ansar Abbasi and Hamid Mir (great club you have there Talat). Someone should ask
him to actually define what a "liberal extremist" is and how many of them
actually exist in this country for them to be constantly used to scare people.
We might learn some more about him.
There has also been a lot of speculation about where the well-spring of this
anger and bitterness against Jolie actually arises from. Personally, I think
Jolie probably ignored LittleMullahBoy on her trip to Pakistan, something his
narcissistic ego just could not take.
But whatever the reason, we know now what the Express' idea of editorial decency
is, and we also know another thing for sure: the Dawn Media Group really should
reconsider long and hard about who it is taking on. Does Syed Talat Hussain
really represent the values Dawn claims to uphold?
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Dear all,
If TH has narrated some facts about AJ life than why u people r defending her. At the same time TH has also praised her struggle as well. Its fact, the real life inside hollywood is no more secret from anyone and that is no morality at all.
Regards
Ma teen
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actually the the narration of the facts about AJ was needed to awake the rulers that a lady with such kind of character is also observed that her reception from Prime Minister is not a decent step in the condition in which more the 10 million Pakistanis were facing a huge disaster.
So please be positive, Talat Hussain is a pure patriotic journalist. every body should respect him.
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Zakir Ali Awan
Karachi.
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Let me first of all say thanks to Mr Jawad for translating Talat's urdu column into English as I could not read the Urdu version. This reflects the high morale standards he owns by providing us all an opportunity to go through the original article before making any statement about it.
I would make no comment about Talat's article as I have high regards for him once he travelled for the cause of besieged Palestinians risking his life to terrorist Zoinist forces.
He is a good professional and a unique analyst. People have the right to have difference of opinion vis-a-vis his opinion but one has to respect both.
As far as Jawad's defence of Julie is concerned, I was shocked to read the conclusion drawn by Mr Jawad about personal beliefs of Talat.
I would like to put some queries for Mr Jawad which he had referred to TH.
1. Jawad says that TH really, REALLY, hates gay people or even those who try and break down the barriers of discrimination against them through their words. He thinks of homosexuality as moral turpitude and despicable.
Mr Jawad .. Do you love gays or homosexual people?
2. TH can't imagine how any woman might find more fulfillment from another woman than a virile man. Can you imagine so?
3. TH thinks it is okay to throw mud on someone's personal life to titillate readers as long as you are just marshalling your sleaze to make an unconnected point. But you also did the same to question TH's personal beliefs - is this not mudslinging?
I don't know for how many years you are settled in the US. However I hear that those who live abroad have more respect for their religion, values and traditions. However your write up reflects that you are ashamed of your values, religion and beliefs.
By the way, when you used the word "WE" most of the time saying that "we have record of TH's article published in The News", to whom you were referring to...? Your institution, those who have hired your services or your American culture?
We live in Pakistan and are proud Muslims. Whatever the west says about Islam, still it is the most moderate and revered religion though we are not good muslims.
Hope you would come up with good answers.
Profound regards
Mian Abrar
Pakistan Today
Islamabad.
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Jawad - USA
Editor
opinions was based on facts. FACTS ARE FACTS even if these happened to be about
a celebrity lady. Rather than being cross with the messenger, the disappointed
admirers of Angelina need appreciate the message itself that nicely touch upon
the neo-con hobby of preaching civilisation to the savage natives, the Pakis, of
course!
bests
Ahmad Irfan
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> *Subject: *Talat Hussain's shameless attempt to defame Angelina Julie
> *Jolie�s Slap in the Face*
>
> By Syed Talat Hussain
>
> "Hollywood superstar Angelina Jolie�s life is a tortuous and
> colourful tale. This 36-year-old woman has suffered all those
> misfortunes about which her fans (I am not one of them) are all
> praise [sic] and which some of them enjoy thinking about. At a very
> tender age, she had adopted many of the habits of adulthood because
> father and mother could not bear living together and so this little
> girl and her brother were forced to live outside a family structure,
> with her mother. Madam hated traditions right from the start and
> thus constantly ran away from home to try and live life on her own
> terms. Finally, bidding farewell to even these broken relationships,
> she began working in the theatre (In America, theatre and
> prostitution are two different professions, readers are advised not
> to draw the wrong conclusions based on Pakistan�s example).
>
> Because her looks were average, she couldn�t make much of a mark in
> acting. If one takes a look at Angelina Jolie�s photographs from
> that time, her face wouldn�t even invite a second glance: hollow
> cheeks, triangular nose, big startled-looking eyes and lips like an
> uncovered clay pot, no glow on her face nor the vitality of youth in
> her body. This is why, in order to advance her film career, she
> relied on marriages. She established relationships with well known
> filmmakers and thus inducted herself in the race for big budget
> films. Then with unflagging energy she worked hard to convert those
> opportunities into making a name for herself that is the envy of
> every good actress.
>
> Angelina�s personal life is full of going against all those values
> that in every society lay the foundations of distinguishing good
> from bad. She is famously known as someone who can cross any limits
> to achieve her objectives. Her critics bestow titles such as
> �Sorceress� and �Queen of Hell� on her. In circles close to her it
> is said that, were murder not punishable by life in prison, Angelina
> Jolie would quite happily kill with her own hands any woman or man
> who came in her way, because softness is not part of her character.
>
> According to some reports, the lady treats substance addiction like
> a profession and every year experiments with new substances to
> regularly nurture this disease. Besides her ambition for climbing
> the ladder of success, she also enjoys loving women (what you
> understand from this is right!). According to a recent newspaper
> report, Angelina Jolie calls herself the mistress of Sapphic love
> and considers these despicable experiences among the best of her
> life. According to her, only a woman can really understand the
> delicate emotions of another woman. Men, despite all their attempts,
> can never achieve the standard that is the apogee of women�s real
> desires.
>
> Angelina Jolie has also made provisions to deflect attention away
> from these dark aspects of her life. That is why she has adopted
> multi-coloured orphaned kids to project herself as the goddess of
> motherly warmth and empathy. Her expert public relations machine has
> presented these aspects of her in such an effective way that the
> United Nations appointed this Hollywood actress as a goodwill
> ambassador. What special education or skills Angelina possesses to
> be appointed to this position, we do not know. Up until now, her
> biography does not reveal any period in which she shows herself to
> be proving her mastery of international affairs. In a life studded
> with addiction and intoxication and moral waywardness, if there is
> any glittering star, it is her efforts in the profession of film.
> Other than that, this lady does not live up to any standards and
> then Eastern standards are far higher than her character demonstrates.
>
> If you have any doubt about this claim, open up the Constitution of
> Pakistan. Take out Articles 62 and 63. What do they say? Does it not
> say this: We who consider ourselves the flag-bearers of Eastern
> traditions, will consider those the best amongst us, who in addition
> to achieving excellence in other affairs, �possess a good character,
> do not go against the laws of Islam, do not commit great sins, are
> pious, and not involved in moral turpitude� etc. etc.? Our concept
> of piety is rooted in the assumption that those people who do not
> possess these traits in their personal life cannot have a position
> of respect in society. Be it in everyday life or matters of state,
> characters like Angelina Jolie, be they Muslim or non-Muslim, should
> remain deprived of respect. Indeed, had Angelina Jolie admitted to
> her shenanigans while living in Pakistan, she would have been stoned
> to death many times over.
>
> But even this filmic woman drowning in her Westernisms has enough of
> a glimmer of values remaining in her to understand that pushing and
> shoving distressed flood affected people because of [official]
> protocol is a bad thing. In her report to the UN upon her return
> back from Pakistan, Angelina Jolie has expressed surprise that, at a
> time when 10 million people are restless with hunger, she was feted
> like royalty in the Prime Minister House. The prime minister�s
> family traveled in a special plane to come and meet her and give her
> gifts. This report is such a slap on the face that, if a person�s
> blood is not already cold, the redness of his cheeks would be
> visible to the entire nation. I don�t know why, after this report of
> her experiences in Pakistan, this Hollywood actress seems more
> worthy of respect than her prominent hosts. And I wonder if the
> hosts have learnt any lessons from this actress� morals."
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Irfan Ashraf
the way he wrote about the film actress. I personally admire the lady
for visiting Pakistan in a time when our own leaders were shying away
from visiting the flood-hit areas. Secondly, we should admire her for
mentioning in her report something about our leaders, which otherwise
would not have known to us. If the high ups do not agree with the
report they can issue clarification. Since no clarification, it means
the report was right. So thanks to Angelena.
Best
Syed Irfan Ashraf,
Peshawar
>> *Jolie’s Slap in the Face*
>>
>> By Syed Talat Hussain
>>
>> "Hollywood superstar Angelina Jolie’s life is a tortuous and
>> colourful tale. This 36-year-old woman has suffered all those
>> misfortunes about which her fans (I am not one of them) are all
>> praise [sic] and which some of them enjoy thinking about. At a
>> very
>> tender age, she had adopted many of the habits of adulthood
>> because
>> father and mother could not bear living together and so this
>> little
>> girl and her brother were forced to live outside a family
>> structure,
>> with her mother. Madam hated traditions right from the start
>> and
>> thus constantly ran away from home to try and live life on her
>> own
>> terms. Finally, bidding farewell to even these broken
>> relationships,
>> she began working in the theatre (In America, theatre and
>> prostitution are two different professions, readers are advised
>> not
>> to draw the wrong conclusions based on Pakistan’s example).
>>
>> Because her looks were average, she couldn’t make much of a
>> mark in
>> acting. If one takes a look at Angelina Jolie’s photographs
>> from
>> that time, her face wouldn’t even invite a second glance:
>> hollow
>> cheeks, triangular nose, big startled-looking eyes and lips
>> like an
>> uncovered clay pot, no glow on her face nor the vitality of
>> youth in
>> her body. This is why, in order to advance her film career, she
>> relied on marriages. She established relationships with well
>> known
>> filmmakers and thus inducted herself in the race for big budget
>> films. Then with unflagging energy she worked hard to convert
>> those
>> opportunities into making a name for herself that is the envy
>> of
>> every good actress.
>>
>> Angelina’s personal life is full of going against all those
>> values
>> that in every society lay the foundations of distinguishing
>> good
>> from bad. She is famously known as someone who can cross any
>> limits
>> to achieve her objectives. Her critics bestow titles such as
>> “Sorceress” and “Queen of Hell” on her. In circles close to her
>> it
>> is said that, were murder not punishable by life in prison,
>> Angelina
>> Jolie would quite happily kill with her own hands any woman or
>> man
>> who came in her way, because softness is not part of her
>> character.
>>
>> According to some reports, the lady treats substance addiction
>> like
>> a profession and every year experiments with new substances to
>> regularly nurture this disease. Besides her ambition for
>> climbing
>> the ladder of success, she also enjoys loving women (what you
>> understand from this is right!). According to a recent
>> newspaper
>> report, Angelina Jolie calls herself the mistress of Sapphic
>> love
>> and considers these despicable experiences among the best of
>> her
>> life. According to her, only a woman can really understand the
>> delicate emotions of another woman. Men, despite all their
>> attempts,
>> can never achieve the standard that is the apogee of women’s
>> to achieving excellence in other affairs, “possess a good
>> character,
>> do not go against the laws of Islam, do not commit great sins,
>> are
>> pious, and not involved in moral turpitude” etc. etc.? Our
>> like royalty in the Prime Minister House. The prime minister’s
>> family traveled in a special plane to come and meet her and
>> give her
>> gifts. This report is such a slap on the face that, if a
>> person’s
>> blood is not already cold, the redness of his cheeks would be
>> visible to the entire nation. I don’t know why, after this
>> report of
>> her experiences in Pakistan, this Hollywood actress seems more
>> worthy of respect than her prominent hosts. And I wonder if the
>> hosts have learnt any lessons from this actress’ morals."
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> By Syed Talat Hussain
>
> "Hollywood superstar Angelina Jolie’s life is a tortuous and
> misfortunes about which her fans (I am not one of them) are all
> praise [sic] and which some of them enjoy thinking about. At a very
> tender age, she had adopted many of the habits of adulthood because
> father and mother could not bear living together and so this little
> girl and her brother were forced to live outside a family structure,
> with her mother. Madam hated traditions right from the start and
> thus constantly ran away from home to try and live life on her own
> terms. Finally, bidding farewell to even these broken relationships,
> she began working in the theatre (In America, theatre and
> prostitution are two different professions, readers are advised not
>
> Because her looks were average, she couldn’t make much of a mark in
> acting. If one takes a look at Angelina Jolie’s photographs from
> that time, her face wouldn’t even invite a second glance: hollow
> uncovered clay pot, no glow on her face nor the vitality of youth in
> her body. This is why, in order to advance her film career, she
> relied on marriages. She established relationships with well known
> filmmakers and thus inducted herself in the race for big budget
> films. Then with unflagging energy she worked hard to convert those
> opportunities into making a name for herself that is the envy of
> every good actress.
>
> from bad. She is famously known as someone who can cross any limits
> to achieve her objectives. Her critics bestow titles such as
> Jolie would quite happily kill with her own hands any woman or man
> who came in her way, because softness is not part of her character.
>
> According to some reports, the lady treats substance addiction like
> a profession and every year experiments with new substances to
> regularly nurture this disease. Besides her ambition for climbing
> the ladder of success, she also enjoys loving women (what you
> understand from this is right!). According to a recent newspaper
> report, Angelina Jolie calls herself the mistress of Sapphic love
> and considers these despicable experiences among the best of her
> life. According to her, only a woman can really understand the
> delicate emotions of another woman. Men, despite all their attempts,
>
> Angelina Jolie has also made provisions to deflect attention away
> from these dark aspects of her life. That is why she has adopted
> multi-coloured orphaned kids to project herself as the goddess of
> motherly warmth and empathy. Her expert public relations machine has
> presented these aspects of her in such an effective way that the
> United Nations appointed this Hollywood actress as a goodwill
> ambassador. What special education or skills Angelina possesses to
> be appointed to this position, we do not know. Up until now, her
> biography does not reveal any period in which she shows herself to
> be proving her mastery of international affairs. In a life studded
> with addiction and intoxication and moral waywardness, if there is
> any glittering star, it is her efforts in the profession of film.
> Other than that, this lady does not live up to any standards and
> then Eastern standards are far higher than her character demonstrates.
>
> If you have any doubt about this claim, open up the Constitution of
> Pakistan. Take out Articles 62 and 63. What do they say? Does it not
> say this: We who consider ourselves the flag-bearers of Eastern
> traditions, will consider those the best amongst us, who in addition
> possess these traits in their personal life cannot have a position
> of respect in society. Be it in everyday life or matters of state,
> characters like Angelina Jolie, be they Muslim or non-Muslim, should
> remain deprived of respect. Indeed, had Angelina Jolie admitted to
> her shenanigans while living in Pakistan, she would have been stoned
> to death many times over.
>
> But even this filmic woman drowning in her Westernisms has enough of
> a glimmer of values remaining in her to understand that pushing and
> shoving distressed flood affected people because of [official]
> protocol is a bad thing. In her report to the UN upon her return
> back from Pakistan, Angelina Jolie has expressed surprise that, at a
> time when 10 million people are restless with hunger, she was feted
> worthy of respect than her prominent hosts. And I wonder if the
Qurat ul ain Siddiqui
sabir shah
What if Talat wrote something harsh about Ms. Jolie? Are these not facts? The US media regularly highlights the personal lives of its celebrities. Admirers of Julie have never lodged complaints with the US electrnoic and print media. Have they?
Why has Talat's article hurt our people? Is he factually wrong?
In case he is, its a sin for a writer.
But he will surely not be because Angeline Jolie's childhood history and miseries can only be know by researching about her.
My research tells Talat and Jolie have never been class-fellows or neighbours. So, how about suing the US media if it has projected Jolie this way, for our journalists to read and then quote.
Showbiz personalities are bound to attract such criticism. Had Talat aired such remarks about US Speaker Nancy Pelosi, I might have objected as to what was the need of criticising her face cuts and looks. It is not a pre-requisite for a legislator to be pretty.
See, actresses anywhere in the world would digest such remarks pretty easily. In fact they are used to it.
By the way, the more you discuss an actress, the more her fan-base and market grow.
Indirectly, Talat has done a favour to Julie. ( I am not good at casting pun or humour though).
By the way, I presume there are quite a few people who have actually been nourishing grudges against the learned journalist. So, possibly they were desperately on the look-out for something against Talat. Somebody even dubbed him a QADYANI the other day.
The admirers of Julie were mum then!! Why?
Change your gender, Talat Hussain------------and you will win many more advocates.
No dearth of them on this forum at least. It has pained me to hear such things.
Forgive me if I have hurt anyone. It was just a thought. I don't have the nerves and guts to reply back if any one of Talat's foes lash back at me for writing this post. I and Talat have never met or spoken in the past. In fact, I have never seen him in real life.
May I request you to respect my personal opinion?
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Please do not advocate AJ as she is not an angle although she admits what she is and please before criticizing TH read the last para of his article carefully and try to understand what he wanted to highlight.
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Talat Hussain like quite a few others slightly right off center hacks has chosen to be a populist and try to emerge as some kind of great hero ala the failed flotilla episode,whom everyone did know would fail, but he choose to go, so as to make a big news splash. In this age of info wars,these are cheap ways to gain popularity and promote commercial interests of sponsors (in this case news channels). It was what can be called a FOXy move. Now by choosing to speak against AJ he has found another way to promote himself, look at the attention at this forum alone. As if this is a big issue...
Shame on TH and all his supporters here, for AJ can be worse person on the planet but has contributed more then all of you and most of all right wing populist posturer's. She does need more attention, in fact on her visits here, she choose to stay away from the media and just did what she came for,but our leadership each time behaved in a manner which is best left undiscussed here, for that is another debate.
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> If TH has narrated some facts about AJ life than why u people r
> defending her. At the same time TH has also praised her struggle as
> well. Its fact, the real life inside hollywood is no more secret
> from anyone and that is no morality at all.
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You forgot to write one thing, that 20 people were killed and many injured on freedom flotilla.... Like Mr Shahid, i am not a foreteller, so i could not figure out that the attempt would be failed , therefore let's get a news splash. Wallah, Mr Shahid, if u r that Shahid Malik who used to work for BBC in Lahore, then i am very sorry to say, that we journalists have no regard for a daring and noble attempt, taken by one of our colleagues. i wonder, how could u say that Talat had made that so-called failed attempt to make headlines??? Did he know that the Israeli soldiers would spare him and his cameraman, and would killed and injured others only? If he knew that, then my my salute to Talat, and i am his "mureed" now.
Talat, leave this profession, and be a Pir Sahib, as u are already a "Shah Sahib", and have totally mesmerized me, Shahid and many others by knowing much earlier that Israeli crisaders would never hurt you.
So Shahid sahib, why dont u make such any attempt too? i promise i wont call it a foxy tactic.
As far as Julie is concerned, Talat could be little harsh, but he hasnt written anything untrue. Julie is very much infamous for that. What Talat has written, has already been published in many Us papers. but still, if Shahid Sahib and others have objection on the language of the article, i respect their opinion, and we can talk about that.
but pls pls pls, i request u all, dont hurl such kind of allegations on our own colleagues, just because he has excelled and surpassed us.
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Every one knows Syed Talat Hussain is gentleman and honest Journalist that's y peoples within in the Pakistan and abroad respect him a lot.
On AJ writing piece I would say as true Journalist he has wrote the truth but journalist can not make happy every one with his writing.
Devil type of peoples are always after angel type of people so I am no wonder if in this case devil mind of peoples trying to criticize Syed Talat Hussain for no reason they will feel one day they all were wrong.
Coz Syed Talat Hussain kind of Journalists and gentlemen are the proud of the Nation.
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> *Jolie?s Slap in the Face*
>
> By Syed Talat Hussain
>
> "Hollywood superstar Angelina Jolie?s life is a tortuous and
> colourful tale. This 36-year-old woman has suffered all those
> misfortunes about which her fans (I am not one of them) are all
> praise [sic] and which some of them enjoy thinking about. At a very
> tender age, she had adopted many of the habits of adulthood because
> father and mother could not bear living together and so this little
> girl and her brother were forced to live outside a family structure,
> with her mother. Madam hated traditions right from the start and
> thus constantly ran away from home to try and live life on her own
> terms. Finally, bidding farewell to even these broken relationships,
> she began working in the theatre (In America, theatre and
> prostitution are two different professions, readers are advised not
> to draw the wrong conclusions based on Pakistan?s example).
>
> Because her looks were average, she couldn?t make much of a mark in
> acting. If one takes a look at Angelina Jolie?s photographs from
> that time, her face wouldn?t even invite a second glance: hollow
> cheeks, triangular nose, big startled-looking eyes and lips like an
> uncovered clay pot, no glow on her face nor the vitality of youth in
> her body. This is why, in order to advance her film career, she
> relied on marriages. She established relationships with well known
> filmmakers and thus inducted herself in the race for big budget
> films. Then with unflagging energy she worked hard to convert those
> opportunities into making a name for herself that is the envy of
> every good actress.
>
> Angelina?s personal life is full of going against all those values
> that in every society lay the foundations of distinguishing good
> from bad. She is famously known as someone who can cross any limits
> to achieve her objectives. Her critics bestow titles such as
> ?Sorceress? and ?Queen of Hell? on her. In circles close to her it
> is said that, were murder not punishable by life in prison, Angelina
> Jolie would quite happily kill with her own hands any woman or man
> who came in her way, because softness is not part of her character.
>
> According to some reports, the lady treats substance addiction like
> a profession and every year experiments with new substances to
> regularly nurture this disease. Besides her ambition for climbing
> the ladder of success, she also enjoys loving women (what you
> understand from this is right!). According to a recent newspaper
> report, Angelina Jolie calls herself the mistress of Sapphic love
> and considers these despicable experiences among the best of her
> life. According to her, only a woman can really understand the
> delicate emotions of another woman. Men, despite all their attempts,
> can never achieve the standard that is the apogee of women?s real
> desires.
>
> Angelina Jolie has also made provisions to deflect attention away
> from these dark aspects of her life. That is why she has adopted
> multi-coloured orphaned kids to project herself as the goddess of
> motherly warmth and empathy. Her expert public relations machine has
> presented these aspects of her in such an effective way that the
> United Nations appointed this Hollywood actress as a goodwill
> ambassador. What special education or skills Angelina possesses to
> be appointed to this position, we do not know. Up until now, her
> biography does not reveal any period in which she shows herself to
> be proving her mastery of international affairs. In a life studded
> with addiction and intoxication and moral waywardness, if there is
> any glittering star, it is her efforts in the profession of film.
> Other than that, this lady does not live up to any standards and
> then Eastern standards are far higher than her character demonstrates.
>
> If you have any doubt about this claim, open up the Constitution of
> Pakistan. Take out Articles 62 and 63. What do they say? Does it not
> say this: We who consider ourselves the flag-bearers of Eastern
> traditions, will consider those the best amongst us, who in addition
> to achieving excellence in other affairs, ?possess a good character,
> do not go against the laws of Islam, do not commit great sins, are
> pious, and not involved in moral turpitude? etc. etc.? Our concept
> of piety is rooted in the assumption that those people who do not
> possess these traits in their personal life cannot have a position
> of respect in society. Be it in everyday life or matters of state,
> characters like Angelina Jolie, be they Muslim or non-Muslim, should
> remain deprived of respect. Indeed, had Angelina Jolie admitted to
> her shenanigans while living in Pakistan, she would have been stoned
> to death many times over.
>
> But even this filmic woman drowning in her Westernisms has enough of
> a glimmer of values remaining in her to understand that pushing and
> shoving distressed flood affected people because of [official]
> protocol is a bad thing. In her report to the UN upon her return
> back from Pakistan, Angelina Jolie has expressed surprise that, at a
> time when 10 million people are restless with hunger, she was feted
> like royalty in the Prime Minister House. The prime minister?s
> family traveled in a special plane to come and meet her and give her
> gifts. This report is such a slap on the face that, if a person?s
> blood is not already cold, the redness of his cheeks would be
> visible to the entire nation. I don?t know why, after this report of
> her experiences in Pakistan, this Hollywood actress seems more
> worthy of respect than her prominent hosts. And I wonder if the
> hosts have learnt any lessons from this actress? morals."
kashif iqbal
Talat has written. If he has written something about Julie, even a
single word is not wrong, if it is can anybody proof. If somebody have
time then he/she must study the life of Julie, everything would be
clear to him.
well done Talat you r good
dont worry about stupid comments
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You forgot to write one thing, that 20 people were killed and many injured on freedom flotilla.... Like Mr Shahid, i am not a foreteller, so i could not figure out that the attempt would be failed , therefore let's get a news splash. Wallah, Mr Shahid, if u r that Shahid Malik who used to work for BBC in Lahore, then i am very sorry to say, that we journalists have no regard for a daring and noble attempt, taken by one of our colleagues. i wonder, how could u say that Talat had made that so-called failed attempt to make headlines??? Did he know that the Israeli soldiers would spare him and his cameraman, and would killed and injured others only? If he knew that, then my my salute to Talat, and i am his "mureed" now.
Talat, leave this profession, and be a Pir Sahib, as u are already a "Shah Sahib", and have totally mesmerized me, Shahid and many others by knowing much earlier that Israeli crisaders would never hurt you.
So Shahid sahib, why dont u make such any attempt too? i promise i wont call it a foxy tactic.
As far as Julie is concerned, Talat could be little harsh, but he hasnt written anything untrue. Julie is very much infamous for that. What Talat has written, has already been published in many Us papers. but still, if Shahid Sahib and others have objection on the language of the article, i respect their opinion, and we can talk about that.
but pls pls pls, i request u all, dont hurl such kind of allegations on our own colleagues, just because he has excelled and surpassed us.
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> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:19:25 +0000
Jamshaid Javed Akhtar
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Subject: RE: Talat Hussain's shameless attempt to defame Angelina Julie
I agree with what Waheed Hussain has written here. It is fact that Talat Hussain stands distinguished as a journalist in Pakistan. He is very sober, learned, intellectually honest and down to earth professional. Kindly respect those who desrve it and dont drag them in futile discussions.
Thanks
Sajid Abbasi
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> Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 07:19:25 +0000
>
> Talat is the most honest journalist of the country, he always stood for professionalism, therefore, he has the rite to give opinion on an issue or personality related to an issue. Waheed hussain
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> Subject: Re: Talat Hussain's shameless attempt to defame Angelina Julie
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> Someone please stop this sensless debate. Talat has exercised his right to freedom of speach. He is a man with great character and is devoid of professional dishonesty . We must learn to respect others rights while exercising ours. Aroosa Alam
> >
> > By Syed Talat Hussain
> >
> > "Hollywood superstar Angelina Jolie?s life is a tortuous and
> > colourful tale. This 36-year-old woman has suffered all those
> > misfortunes about which her fans (I am not one of them) are all
> > praise [sic] and which some of them enjoy thinking about. At a very
> > tender age, she had adopted many of the habits of adulthood because
> > father and mother could not bear living together and so this little
> > girl and her brother were forced to live outside a family structure,
> > with her mother. Madam hated traditions right from the start and
> > thus constantly ran away from home to try and live life on her own
> > terms. Finally, bidding farewell to even these broken relationships,
> > she began working in the theatre (In America, theatre and
> > prostitution are two different professions, readers are advised not
> >
> > Because her looks were average, she couldn?t make much of a mark in
> > acting. If one takes a look at Angelina Jolie?s photographs from
> > that time, her face wouldn?t even invite a second glance: hollow
> > cheeks, triangular nose, big startled-looking eyes and lips like an
> > uncovered clay pot, no glow on her face nor the vitality of youth in
> > her body. This is why, in order to advance her film career, she
> > relied on marriages. She established relationships with well known
> > filmmakers and thus inducted herself in the race for big budget
> > films. Then with unflagging energy she worked hard to convert those
> > opportunities into making a name for herself that is the envy of
> > every good actress.
> >
> > that in every society lay the foundations of distinguishing good
> > from bad. She is famously known as someone who can cross any limits
> > to achieve her objectives. Her critics bestow titles such as
> > is said that, were murder not punishable by life in prison, Angelina
> > Jolie would quite happily kill with her own hands any woman or man
> > who came in her way, because softness is not part of her character.
> >
> > According to some reports, the lady treats substance addiction like
> > a profession and every year experiments with new substances to
> > regularly nurture this disease. Besides her ambition for climbing
> > the ladder of success, she also enjoys loving women (what you
> > understand from this is right!). According to a recent newspaper
> > report, Angelina Jolie calls herself the mistress of Sapphic love
> > and considers these despicable experiences among the best of her
> > life. According to her, only a woman can really understand the
> > delicate emotions of another woman. Men, despite all their attempts,
> > desires.
> >
> > Angelina Jolie has also made provisions to deflect attention away
> > from these dark aspects of her life. That is why she has adopted
> > multi-coloured orphaned kids to project herself as the goddess of
> > motherly warmth and empathy. Her expert public relations machine has
> > presented these aspects of her in such an effective way that the
> > United Nations appointed this Hollywood actress as a goodwill
> > ambassador. What special education or skills Angelina possesses to
> > be appointed to this position, we do not know. Up until now, her
> > biography does not reveal any period in which she shows herself to
> > be proving her mastery of international affairs. In a life studded
> > with addiction and intoxication and moral waywardness, if there is
> > any glittering star, it is her efforts in the profession of film.
> > Other than that, this lady does not live up to any standards and
> > then Eastern standards are far higher than her character demonstrates.
> >
> > If you have any doubt about this claim, open up the Constitution of
> > Pakistan. Take out Articles 62 and 63. What do they say? Does it not
> > say this: We who consider ourselves the flag-bearers of Eastern
> > traditions, will consider those the best amongst us, who in addition
> > do not go against the laws of Islam, do not commit great sins, are
> > of piety is rooted in the assumption that those people who do not
> > possess these traits in their personal life cannot have a position
> > of respect in society. Be it in everyday life or matters of state,
> > characters like Angelina Jolie, be they Muslim or non-Muslim, should
> > remain deprived of respect. Indeed, had Angelina Jolie admitted to
> > her shenanigans while living in Pakistan, she would have been stoned
> > to death many times over.
> >
> > But even this filmic woman drowning in her Westernisms has enough of
> > a glimmer of values remaining in her to understand that pushing and
> > shoving distressed flood affected people because of [official]
> > protocol is a bad thing. In her report to the UN upon her return
> > back from Pakistan, Angelina Jolie has expressed surprise that, at a
> > time when 10 million people are restless with hunger, she was feted
> > family traveled in a special plane to come and meet her and give her
> > blood is not already cold, the redness of his cheeks would be
> > her experiences in Pakistan, this Hollywood actress seems more
> > worthy of respect than her prominent hosts. And I wonder if the
Sibtain Shah
Welldone, Talat Hussain
TH's means, though Angelina Jolie has weak character but despite of that she
felt bad rich arrangements of meal at Prime Minister house while county faces
devastating flood.
Though, Angelina Jolie’s life is a tortuous and colourful tale but her
humanitarian feelings are better than our rulers.
Very good Talat Hussain, wish you good luck.
best regards,
syed sibtain shah,
Journalist.
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Dear all,
If TH has narrated some facts about AJ life than why u people r defending her. At the same time TH has also praised her struggle as well. Its fact, the real life inside hollywood is no more secret from anyone and that is no morality at all.
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Pretty strong worded on all sides I'd say!
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In essence, Hussain went on a diatribe against Jolie's personal life, her "immoral" lifestyle, her allegedly selfish and cut-throat nature, her alleged hypocrisy and manipulation in adopting children and even her "plain" looks - most of his 'facts' are in fact made up or sensationalized - only to build the case, right at the end, that even an 'immoral and wayward woman' like Jolie was deserving of more respect than the government since she at least criticized it for its peripheral preoccupations during the flood crisis. If you think that is a rather convoluted way of attacking the government, you would be dead right.
What Hussain has actually shown up with his words is his own sexism, his own bigotry, his own racism (he actually derides Jolie's children as "rang barangay yateem bachay" or 'multi-coloured orphan kids'), his own homophobia and his own amazingly parochial nature. He has conclusively proved, if it needed to be proved, that the paet ki daarrhi (beard in the stomach i.e. concealed bigotry) has a way of coming out at some point or the other. He has also shown how some hypocrites in the media write in one style for the Urdu-reading public and maintain quite a different persona for the English readership (perhaps he thought those who read English papers would never actually read his column in Urdu).
But you could not possibly understand why I say all of this without reading the article itself. For those who cannot read the purple prose in the original Urdu, here is my translation of it which tries to remain as true as possible to Hussain's style and meaning:
|
Jolie’s Slap in the Face |
|
By Syed Talat Hussain "Hollywood superstar Angelina Jolie’s life is a tortuous and colourful tale. This 36-year-old woman has suffered all those misfortunes about which her fans (I am not one of them) are all praise [sic] and which some of them enjoy thinking about. At a very tender age, she had adopted many of the habits of adulthood because father and mother could not bear living together and so this little girl and her brother were forced to live outside a family structure, with her mother. Madam hated traditions right from the start and thus constantly ran away from home to try and live life on her own terms. Finally, bidding farewell to even these broken relationships, she began working in the theatre (In America, theatre and prostitution are two different professions, readers are advised not to draw the wrong conclusions based on Pakistan’s example). Because her looks were average, she couldn’t make much of a mark in acting. If one takes a look at Angelina Jolie’s photographs from that time, her face wouldn’t even invite a second glance: hollow cheeks, triangular nose, big startled-looking eyes and lips like an uncovered clay pot, no glow on her face nor the vitality of youth in her body. This is why, in order to advance her film career, she relied on marriages. She established relationships with well known filmmakers and thus inducted herself in the race for big budget films. Then with unflagging energy she worked hard to convert those opportunities into making a name for herself that is the envy of every good actress. Angelina’s personal life is full of going against all those values that in every society lay the foundations of distinguishing good from bad. She is famously known as someone who can cross any limits to achieve her objectives. Her critics bestow titles such as “Sorceress” and “Queen of Hell” on her. In circles close to her it is said that, were murder not punishable by life in prison, Angelina Jolie would quite happily kill with her own hands any woman or man who came in her way, because softness is not part of her character. According to some reports, the lady treats substance addiction like a profession and every year experiments with new substances to regularly nurture this disease. Besides her ambition for climbing the ladder of success, she also enjoys loving women (what you understand from this is right!). According to a recent newspaper report, Angelina Jolie calls herself the mistress of Sapphic love and considers these despicable experiences among the best of her life. According to her, only a woman can really understand the delicate emotions of another woman. Men, despite all their attempts, can never achieve the standard that is the apogee of women’s real desires. |
Angelina Jolie has also made provisions to deflect attention away from these dark aspects of her life. That is why she has adopted multi-coloured orphaned kids to project herself as the goddess of motherly warmth and empathy. Her expert public relations machine has presented these aspects of her in such an effective way that the United Nations appointed this Hollywood actress as a goodwill ambassador. What special education or skills Angelina possesses to be appointed to this position, we do not know. Up until now, her biography does not reveal any period in which she shows herself to be proving her mastery of international affairs. In a life studded with addiction and intoxication and moral waywardness, if there is any glittering star, it is her efforts in the profession of film. Other than that, this lady does not live up to any standards and then Eastern standards are far higher than her character demonstrates. |
|
If you have any doubt about this claim, open up the
Constitution of Pakistan. Take out Articles 62 and 63.
What do they say? Does it not say this: We who consider
ourselves the flag-bearers of Eastern traditions, will
consider those the best amongst us, who in addition to
achieving excellence in other affairs, “possess a good
character, do not go against the laws of Islam, do not
commit great sins, are pious, and not involved in moral
turpitude” etc. etc.? Our concept of piety is rooted in
the assumption that those people who do not possess
these traits in their personal life cannot have a
position of respect in society. Be it in everyday life
or matters of state, characters like Angelina Jolie, be
they Muslim or non-Muslim, should remain deprived of
respect. Indeed, had Angelina Jolie admitted to her
shenanigans while living in Pakistan, she would have
been stoned to death many times over. But even this filmic woman drowning in her Westernisms has enough of a glimmer of values remaining in her to understand that pushing and shoving distressed flood affected people because of [official] protocol is a bad thing. In her report to the UN upon her return back from Pakistan, Angelina Jolie has expressed surprise that, at a time when 10 million people are restless with hunger, she was feted like royalty in the Prime Minister House. The prime minister’s family traveled in a special plane to come and meet her and give her gifts. This report is such a slap on the face that, if a person’s blood is not already cold, the redness of his cheeks would be visible to the entire nation. I don’t know why, after this report of her experiences in Pakistan, this Hollywood actress seems more worthy of respect than her prominent hosts. And I wonder if the hosts have learnt any lessons from this actress’ morals." |
Just to set the record straight about Jolie:
1. She has been married twice, to actors Johnny Lee Miller and
Billy Bob Thornton, neither of whom fall in the category of
people who could give her a leg up in big budget films (in
fact, how many people even know who Miller is?). She currently
lives with actor Brad Pitt, whom she met long after she had
become famous, and she has publicly said that she does not
want to marry again until gay people also have the same right.
2. She has won one Oscar for Best Supporting Actress, two
Screen Actors Guild awards and three Golden Globe awards,
hardly someone you would classify as a non-serious actor who
only got to stardom by sleeping her way through. In fact,
there is no evidence (documented or gossiped about) of
relationships with any directors or producers.
3. Where Hussain picked up his quotes about Jolie's intensely
ambitious nature is a complete mystery (maybe Hussain spends
his time reading The National Enquirer or has a yen for Brad
Pitt's ex, Jennifer Aniston). In fact, Jolie has often
expressed a desire to quit acting altogether to spend more
time with her family.
4. She has never been accused, to my knowledge, of substance
addiction, though she has admitted experimenting with drugs in
her teenage years and has openly talked about her rebellious
phase during adolescence.
5. The post of Goodwill Ambassador at the UN is predicated
only on celebrities who wish to use their fame to advocate for
causes the UN agencies wish to bring attention to. It has
nothing to do with being experts in international relations.
Jolie was appointed Goodwill Ambassador by the United Nations
High Commission for Refugees (UNHCR) because she is a famous
actress, not because of the children she adopted.
Contrary to the sensationalist claptrap that this article
peddles about Jolie, this is what we DO learn without doubt
about Syed Talat Hussain from this article:
1. He believes all divorced or single parent families are
unnatural and it is impossible to grow up happy or
well-adjusted in them.
2. He hates people who hate traditions, no matter how
stifling, and rebel against them.
3. He thinks all theatre actors in Pakistan are prostitutes.
Actresses and perhaps all showbiz people are not worthy of any
respect.
4. He enjoys making fun of people's looks, even if they are
adolescent children.
5. He thinks that anyone who rebels against society's norms is
destroying the good in society. Anyone who advocates equal
rights for people based not on their gender, race or sexual
orientation - as Jolie does - is the scum of the earth.
6. He has no problem making **** up to justify his claims.
7. He really, and I mean REALLY, hates gay people or even
those who try and break down the barriers of discrimination
against them through their words. He thinks of homosexuality
as moral turpitude and despicable.
8. He can't imagine how any woman might find more fulfillment
from another woman than a virile man.
9. He mocks children.
10. He has deep-rooted racial prejudices.
11. He thinks adoption is unnatural and is done out of pity by
people as a public relations exercise.
12. He thinks everyone in the UN is a moron who gets fooled
easily by PR machines.
13. He is xenophobic and thinks there is a clear line between
Western and "superior" Eastern values. He also believes the
West is irretrievably morally "corrupt" as evidenced by the
'looseness' of its women.
14. He thinks Article 62 and 63 of the Pakistan Constitution -
inserted by the hypocritical dictator General Ziaul Haq to
manipulate the parliament - are the epitome of Eastern values.
15. He thinks stoning people to death for their personal
lifestyle choices or expression of opinion is acceptable.
16. He thinks it is okay to throw mud on someone's personal
life to titillate readers as long as you are just marshalling
your sleaze to make an unconnected point. Even if that person
is completely unknown to you and has only gone out of their
way to garner sympathy for the same people you claim to be
fighting for.
Most people probably do not remember the fact that this cretin
of a pseudo-intellectual was often himself accused (unfairly
in my opinion), in the early part of his journalistic career,
of being an empty-headed boy-toy for his female boss. They
also probably do not remember the vile homophobic rant he once
wrote (about 10 years or so ago) as an op-ed in The News,
which is no longer available in the archives on the net (if
anyone can find it, please do send it along to us). But we do,
even if Hussain has tried to erase this past with a carefully
cultivated image of sensibility and balance. Most, however,
might recall that he is as fond of invoking the bogey of
"liberal extremist", to label anyone who argues for secularism
or progressive politics or offers dissent against antiquated
societal norms, as people like Shireen Mazari, Ahmad Quraishi,
Ansar Abbasi and Hamid Mir (great club you have there Talat).
Someone should ask him to actually define what a "liberal
extremist" is and how many of them actually exist in this
country for them to be constantly used to scare people. We
might learn some more about him.
There has also been a lot of speculation about where the
well-spring of this anger and bitterness against Jolie
actually arises from. Personally, I think Jolie probably
ignored LittleMullahBoy on her trip to Pakistan, something his
narcissistic ego just could not take.
But whatever the reason, we know now what the Express' idea of
editorial decency is, and we also know another thing for sure:
the Dawn Media Group really should reconsider long and hard
about who it is taking on. Does Syed Talat Hussain really
represent the values Dawn claims to uphold?
Mukhtar Ahmed Butt
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Talat Hussain’s slap in the face
by Aatekah Mir-Khan
A senior sub-editor for the Lahore city pages of The Express Tribune
“My husband is an addict. He doesn’t work to support the family. He does menial work on days of his choosing, the money from which goes to feeding his addiction. I work to feed and support our children. But he has told me that he does not want me to work long hours at somebody’s house. I can only stay out until the afternoon. It is a matter of ‘honour’,” was how a maid described her husband to another.
“Thank God, my husband does not do drugs. He doesn’t work, he screams at me and sometimes beats me up but I am grateful that he is not on drugs,” said the latter to the former. Makes one feel embarrassed at the blessings people are capable of counting, no?
The story is not an exception. Many of the women who work at people’s houses do so because their husbands are the worst kind of ‘stay-at-home’ spouses.
I kept wondering for a few days after the exchange related above where the ‘honour’ of men begins and where it ends. It is ‘honourable’ to beat up your wife and tell her that she cannot go out of the home after dark but it does not affect a man’s ‘honour’ that his wife’s putting food on the table and working two, three jobs to make sure their children get a minimum education while he stays at home, not helping with the kids? I don’t think there is anything wrong with women working or earning more than their husbands. The line that gets a little blurry is the definition of ‘honour’ that these men have. I attributed their ignorance to their lack of education and the social strata they belong to. But then came the ‘slap in the face’.
Talat Hussain, a man who has (or should I say had) a reputation for being quite bearable among the insufferable lot of TV anchors, wrote a column “Jolie ka Thappar” in an Urdu newspaper about Angelina Jolie’s trip to Pakistan and the report that she is said to have submitted to the UN. Read it once and you won’t believe what your eyes are reading, let it settle in and you will feel disgusted. While you are reading, you will ask yourself many times, “Where is all this repugnance leading to?” you get your answer in the last few sentences. Hussain takes Ms Jolie apart only to prove one point: someone as ‘low’ in character could look right through the government’s crap post floods.
Irrespective of your sex, everything in your body will scream “sexist, racist, judgemental” to name a few reactions. Not only does Hussain take the liberty of commenting on how Ms Jolie looked at a certain age, he also has the audacity to continually pass judgement on her, talking about her ‘colourful life’, her sexual proclivities and ‘myriad broken relationships’.
“Mercy is not one of her qualities,” Hussain opines. Excuse me, sir, but it doesn’t seem to be one of yours. Most pitiful perhaps is the sentence, “To remove attention from her dark episodes, Angelina Jolie has adopted multi-coloured children to mould herself into the paragon of mercy and maternal instincts.”
Hussain’s writing seems to suggest that we really are the ‘pure’ people and that other people do not measure up.
“This woman does not pass any test of Eastern values. Take a look at Article 62 and 63 of the Pakistani constitution. We put great value on good behaviour, following Islamic traditions… If Angelina Jolie had spoken of her deeds as a Pakistani she would have been stoned to death infinite times.”
He hammers the last nail in the coffin saying:
“People like Angelina Jolie, whether they be Muslim or non-Muslim, should be given no honour at all.” I do not know who died and made Hussain the queen.
Don’t dismiss him please. He does show some compassion, “How is it possible that this actress seems worth honouring more than her Pakistani hosts?”, he asks. It is possible very easily sir. ‘This actress’ has a lot more spine and is capable of showing mercy than you. She does not think that she has the right to be a moralist and she does not stick her ‘ugly nose’ (as you put it) where it does not belong.
I am not the first one to say it but it seems that Hussain’s column was him talking to the audience of Urdu newspapers. “She is willing to exceed any limits to get what she wants” writes Hussain. It seems so do you, Mr Hussain. You wrote what you wrote because you thought this is what would sell to a particular audience. But that is not a justification. Where are the ethics that you keep on harping about? Where’s that liberalism that you keep rubbing into other people’s faces who appear on your show? Where’s that ‘down with sensationalism’ that you keep reprimanding some channels and newspapers for?
The column highlights the discrepancy between Urdu and English journalism in the country. In addition, it makes sure that the reality bites you, right in the face. In our country, when men decide what is honourable and what’s not, it has nothing to do with their class or education.
http://blogs.tribune.com.pk/story/2608/talat-hussains-slap-in-the-face/
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Please keep your personal ethics alive while discussing the people who are known for their good spontaneous work. We are no one but media is for us. As we are the customers so please don't dare to malin the people who are respected by their good work, please.
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