A new web war against Hamid Mir-warning for journalist community

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Haris Khan

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Hamid Mir is an old target of enemies of Pakistan and democracy.American author Robert Spencer wrote many articles against him on the web pages.US Ambassador wrote a letter against Hamid Mir last year.On the other side some sponsored extremist elements in the Pakistani establishment accuse our journalist friend that he is working for CIA.This allegation was first made by an ISI sponsored intellectual Zaid Hamid when Hamid Mir was banned by Musharraf in 2007.Now these same elements have hatched a new conspiracy against Hamid Mir and concocted a so-called telephonic conversation of Hamid Mir with some unkown person.It is clear that this conversation is the creation of some dirty minds.They tried to prove that Hamid Mir is talking to some militant about Khalid Khawaja but interestingly Hamid Mir is actually trying to know that where is Khawaja?He can talk to anyone who calls him but this tape breaks many times and it is a clear computer work.So-called militant in the tape is accusing that Khawaja was involved in the bombing of a Mosque in Rawalpindi but Hamid Mir is not aware.Militant informing him that the son of Khawaja is part of Al Qaeda but Mir is not aware.Mir never confirmed these things despite the fact that other person trying to put some words in Mir's mouth.The main objective of this whole tape is to prove that Khawaja was a terrorist having links with CIA and Hamid Mir hates Qadianis.May be somebody in the agencies want to blackmail Hamid Mir.Some people trying to kill two birds with one stone.We think that this is a dirty work of some secret agencies because Hamid Mir is raising voice for missing persons.May be some more journalists will also come under fire in coming days but we don't need to worry.We will expose all the anti-media and anti-Pakistan elements in the establishment.
 
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Good work by Mir is highly appreciated . He is pure journalist and not a hunchman of any body,that I believe from core of my heart. Let's support this courageous journalist.
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i agreee with haris. the same is happening with our colleague Tariq Habib, who works for Daily News, an evening english daily of Jang roup, after he did a story about mysterious disapperance of five pakistanis teaching at a dubai based medical college. the wife of one of the missing persons, wrote a letter to chief justice, and others informing them about diappearance of her husband and four others. she fears that her husband and others have been abducted and shifted to Gunatanamo Bay. As soon as the story appeared in the paper, he is receiving threats from a so-called Major Akram, who pretends himself to be an ISI operator. Unknown persons are chasing Mr habib, and calling him from different numbers besides hurling life threats.
The PFUJ, the KUJ  and other journalist organisation must take note of such tactics aimed at harassing the newsmen.
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Habib Akram

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Dear All

Hunza River crisis in Gigit Baltistan may be an opportunity as well. As Orya Maqbool Jan put, in Samaa’s program that the lake in Ata Abad may be tuned into a dam and once we build power houses there, this crisis will become an opportunity.

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Habib

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Dear.

Orya Jan Maqbool is absolutely wrong. This Hunza lake can not be  converted into a Dam. The studies on the matter has been completed and are available. ultimately it is  river passage and no possibility  for Dam.


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I agree with haris and amir latif, hamid mir is a very courageous journalist whose credentials and credibilty are both impeccable.more power to him

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Don't worry Hamid Mir sahib peoples are aware who is wrong or right your r proud of our community.mushtaq Minhas

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After reading this email from Mr. Haris Khan, i was shocked and was trying
to search the audio tape which is being mentioned by harish khan. I found a
website from where i downloded it. After hearing the tape i am not sure if
the person speaking to the militant is Hamid Mir or not but there are some
contradictions in the following email from Haris Khan. I have highlighted
the points in Blue.

I tried to attach the audio tape downloaded from this site http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?n5ntmuzjftt
but it is too big to be allowed by google
setting. So you can download from above website

Zafar Sipra "Ausaf"

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its  a good idea
if our leadership think it deeply

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Jawad it's also uploaded on utube as usual, I've seen it just a short while ago with the name of " Hamid Mir Game Over" but must tell u one thing it seems another fake product
Sumera
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Riaz Jafri

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Mr. Mushtaq Minhas says, "Don't worry Hamid Mir sahib peoples are aware who is wrong or right your r proud of our community.mushtaq Minhas"
 
peoples are aware -------   your r proud of our community. 
 
Well done Mushtaq Minhas.  Angrezi dian yangan bhann ditiayan jey.
 
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Adnan Gill

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Folks,
 
Following is the link to Hamid Mir's tape on YouTube. Unless, I missed something, I didn't hear anything incriminating from him. As far as the authenticity goes, voice signatures are like fingerprints, which can verified with absolute certainty.
 
As a journalist, it is acceptable for him to talk to militants. Also his personal beliefs are his business. All I care is whether he brings his bias to his show or not?
 
Though I take the original mail of this thread with a grain of salt. Haris Khan's defensive message devoid of any references was clearly a preemptive damage control exercise.
 
Instead of mobilizing proxies in his favor, I would highly recommend Mir Sahib to issue a short statement to set the record straight.
 
 
Adnan
 
 
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very good idea. in my think, God has given an oppurtunity to us without expending  a single peny. our leadership must think about to built a power house on the natural  lake at Hayatabad. It will generate an electricity to the state and  we will over come  on loadshedding very soon on a cheaper hydel power generation.I support  this idea.


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Imran Husain

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hamid mir is a pioneer of the media revolution that began 10 years ago. yes, more power to him.

Mr. M. Maroof Khan

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Mir Sb we (journalists) r vid u....
M. Maroof Khan
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Don't worry Hamid Mir sahib peoples are aware who is wrong or right your r proud of our community.mushtaq MinhasSent from my BlackBerry® smartphone using my Telenor Persona connection
I agree with haris and amir latif, hamid mir is a very courageous journalist whose credentials and credibilty are both impeccable.more power to himSent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Warid.

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Its interesting to note that all the Hamid Mir supporters have chosen to remain quite about the recording of Hamid Mir posted on Youtube and numerous other sites, today the entire transcript of the said conversation is reporoduced in Daily Times. A Pakistani man (Khalid Khawaja) who is considered little understood was brutally murdered and dumped in the streets of Mir Ali, why should questions not be askd and why should any evidence related to this gruesome act not be aired.
 
Hamid Mir should come forward and state that the recording is fake and or fabricated. The question that will then arise, why should anyone go to this extent to find someone who can speak exactly like Hamid Mir and make him say all the things only Hamid Mir was privy of, as it concerns only his person and what is the objective of such an act. All the supporters of Hamid Mir should throw some light on this matter and or else be ready to for always be known as taking sides.
 
As far as I am concerned, I do not know what the truth is in this affair and want it to be cleared ASAP.
 
Best regards to all 




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Hi, wait a minute! why Hamid Mir has been targeted every time for those who are "journalistically & politically vagabond people, i believe that Hamid done lots of great jobs in Pakistani journalism and have honour international accadmic/journali  I just want to say no more but that, Mr Mir is the person who we being a nation and Pakistani journalist community should be proud of.

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We read Daily Times a very authentic newspaper of Pakistan.  The paper has published a piece on this alledged call of Hamid Mir with the activist of Punjabi Taliban who abducted Khalid Khwaja.
 

Hamid Mir’s terrifying indiscretions

LAHORE: A shocking audiotape of a conversation between Hamid Mir – one of the country’s top TV anchors – and a man purportedly linked to the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan, has revealed that negative information that Mir passed on to the Taliban could have led to the execution of Khalid Khawaja, the retired Air Force official allegedly killed by a group calling themselves the ‘Asian Tigers’.

The tape – which has Mir divulging dirt on Khawaja, ostensibly to someone who is going to cross examine him – was first posted by the Let Us Build Pakistan blog, and picked up by other online publications, including Café Pyala. It is still unclear who made the tape, with online speculation suggesting that it could be the militants themselves, or even intelligence agencies who released the recording.

Whatever the source may be, it is clear that one of the voices on the tape is Mir’s, a fact corroborated by his allusions to events such as his sacking from the daily Ausaf. In the tape, the person on the other end asks Mir for information on Khalid Khawaja. The content of the conversation suggests that this call was made before Khawaja’s execution earlier this month. Mir goes on to detail what he knows about Khawaja’s background, linking him to the CIA, an international network of Qadianis and an American named Mansur Ejaz, who, Mir claims, even offered to solve the Kashmir issue.

At one point, the voice on the other end claims to have abducted Khawaja. Here, Mir volunteers further information linking Khawaja to the Lal Masjid operation, saying that Khawaja and his wife were the ones responsible for the death of Ghazi Rasheed and the humiliating capture of Maulana Abdul Aziz and his family. Mir then urges the man to cross-examine Khawaja about his relationship with Mansur Ejaz, Qadianis and a CIA agent named William Casey.

Mir also mentions Javed Paracha – the Kohat-based PML-N lawmaker who offered to mediate Khawaja’s release. Towards the end of the tape, the voice on the other end says that he will relay the information (that Mir has given) to Hakeemullah Mehsud. staff report

Points of interest in the conversation

* Hamid Mir’s disparaging attitude towards Qadianis (in his own words, he considers them worse than kaafirs)

* His nonchalance when suicide bombings or the looting of NATO trucks are mentioned

* Mir’s repeated references to occasions where Khawaja has personally ‘betrayed’ him (He holds Khawaja personally responsible for his departure from the daily Ausaf)

* The high degree of reverence with which Mir refers to Ghazi Rasheed, Javed Paracha and other terrorists, including Abdul Rehman Kennedy

hamid mir

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Dear All,Thank you very much for your support.Today publisher of Daily Times and Governor Punjab Salman Taseer created a new record in the history of yellow journalism by publishing a one sided tape drama scandle against me.I would like to remind my journalist colleagues that Salman Taseer published many dirty articles against me in the past when i was banned by Musharraf regime on tv.Today he published the transcript of a concocted tape with some comments on the front page of his newspaper.Yes he tried to kill many birds with one bullet.
 
This is a conspiracy against me.Khalid Khawaja was assassinated in the month of April and this tape surfaced in the middle of May just few days before some important political and leagal events.I am consulting with my lawyers and i will go into court against Salman Taseer for publishing a one sided concocted story against me.My hands are clear and i have no fear except Allah who have provided me a new opportunity to unmask some more realities in the court of law.
 
This fabricated tape is part of a bigger drama against journalist community.Some elements want to silence the voice of media on certain national issues by blackmailing journalists like me.These people are very unhappy on those journalists who are raising voice for missing people,who are opposing government stand NRO and who criticized the fake degree holder members of the parliament.Many journalists are disliked by the government and some parts of the establishment.These journalists may become a target one by one.Some government ministers warned me on May 13th that some elements are trying to use the family of Khalid Khawaja against me and journalists like Ansar Abbasi,Kamran Khan and Shahid Masood will also face some new cases.I am sure we will face these kind of fabricated cases with unity.Thanks again for showing solidarity with me.
 
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DEAR MR.HAMID MIR SAHIB

ASSALAM-O-ALAIKUM

WE ARE ALL WITH YOU HAMID SAHIB. DO NOT WORRY ABOUT  THIS RUBBISH FROM YOUR OPPONENTS. ALLAH’S SUPPORT IS ALWAYS WITH YOU –INSHA-ALLAH

KINDLY ACCEPT MY REGARDS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.

 

A FAN OF YOURS,

 

TARIQ HASAN

 

 

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Dear sir,
We all young journalists along with you.
Keep it up and God bless you.

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Dear Mir Sahib,

all journalists will support you as journalist. It is very serious and sensitive to comment on one's integrity, based on an alleged audio tape. Mir sahib, you did well to speak on the subject but it is a very direct attack on you, so before saying something against the concpirators, you should clarify that the conversation is not yours, which everyone believes. I am sure Khalid Khwaja was not killed on alleged Mir sahaib's recommendation but he was at hit list of the group. I suspect they planned his killing even before he was kidnapped with his other two friends. The real story will be unfolded in days to come. Mir sahib contest your case in every forum, journalists community will back you in this war......

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These are once again tough times for the Pakistani media, which is the only way through which people can keep their eye on the government and get to know the real truth.
The governor of Punjab, Salman Taseer who himself runs a newspaper and a T.V channel has many times ridiculed the T.V anchors and termed them enemy of nation. If anyone remember his statement regarding anchorpersons where he is of the opinion that anchorpersons of TV channels think of themselves as some godly figures and  said if these anchorpersons  were in the West, they would have long been handcuffed and arrested.

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dear hamid mir,
you dont explain about tape..voice shows its your..
so you have to explain about it.
rizwan asif daily express
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Dear All,Thank you very much for your support.Today publisher of Daily Times and Governor Punjab Salman Taseer created a new record in the history of yellow journalism by publishing a one sided tape drama scandle against me.I would like to remind my journalist colleagues that Salman Taseer published many dirty articles against me in the past when i was banned by Musharraf regime on tv.Today he published the transcript of a concocted tape with some comments on the front page of his newspaper.Yes he tried to kill many birds with one bullet.
?
This is a conspiracy against me.Khalid Khawaja was assassinated in the month of April and this tape surfaced in the middle of May just few days before some important political and leagal events.I am consulting with my lawyers and i will go into court against Salman Taseer for publishing a one sided concocted story against me.My hands are clear and i have no fear except Allah who have provided me a new opportunity to unmask some more realities in the court of law.
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This fabricated tape is part of a bigger drama against journalist community.Some elements want to silence the voice of media on certain national issues by blackmailing journalists like me.These people are very unhappy on those journalists who are raising voice for missing people,who are opposing government stand NRO and who criticized the fake degree holder members of the parliament.Many journalists are disliked by the government and some parts of the establishment.These journalists may become a?target one by one.Some government ministers warned me on May 13th that some elements are trying to use the family of Khalid Khawaja against me and journalists like Ansar Abbasi,Kamran Khan and Shahid Masood will also face some new cases.I am sure we will face these kind of fabricated cases with unity.Thanks again for showing solidarity with me.
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Sent from my BlackBerry? smartphone from Warid.
i agreee with haris. the same is happening with our colleague Tariq Habib, who works for Daily News, an evening english daily of Jang roup, after he did a story about mysterious disapperance of five pakistanis teaching at a dubai based medical college. the wife of one of the missing persons, wrote a letter to chief justice, and others informing them about diappearance of her husband and four others. she fears that her husband and others have been abducted and shifted to Gunatanamo Bay.?As soon as the story appeared in the paper, he is receiving threats from?a so-called Major Akram, who pretends himself to be an ISI operator. Unknown persons are chasing Mr habib, and calling him from different numbers besides hurling life threats.
The PFUJ,?the KUJ ?and other journalist organisation must take note of such tactics aimed at harassing the newsmen.
a


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Hamid Mir is an old target of enemies of Pakistan and democracy.American author Robert Spencer wrote many articles against him on the web pages.US Ambassador wrote a letter against Hamid Mir last year.On the other side some sponsored extremist elements in the Pakistani establishment accuse our journalist friend that he is working for CIA.This allegation was first made by an ISI sponsored intellectual Zaid Hamid when Hamid Mir was banned by Musharraf in 2007.Now these same elements have hatched a new conspiracy against Hamid Mir and concocted a so-called telephonic conversation of Hamid Mir with some unkown person.It is clear that this conversation is the creation of some dirty minds.They tried to prove that Hamid Mir is talking to some militant about Khalid Khawaja but interestingly Hamid Mir is actually trying to know that where is Khawaja?He can talk to anyone who calls him but this tape breaks many times and it is a clear computer work.So-called
militant in the tape is accusing that Khawaja was involved in the bombing of a Mosque in Rawalpindi but Hamid Mir is not aware.Militant informing him that the son of Khawaja is part of Al Qaeda but Mir is not aware.Mir never confirmed these things despite the fact that other person trying to put some words in Mir's mouth.The main objective of this whole tape is to prove that Khawaja was a terrorist having links with CIA and Hamid Mir hates Qadianis.May be somebody in the agencies want to blackmail Hamid Mir.Some people trying to kill two birds with one stone.We think that this is a dirty work of some secret agencies because Hamid Mir is raising voice for missing persons.May be some more journalists will also come under fire in coming days but we don't need to worry.We will expose all the anti-media and anti-Pakistan elements in the establishment.
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I can only laugh at Orya Maqbool who has given a different thought which cannot be materialized by any means. He is senior person he must have studied the case throughly then commented. As mateen Haider said that studies do not support it, he is absolutely right. 

Suppose that we convert this water storage into dam then where your Silk Highway will go? In its initial stages this lake has made sunk 30KM of this highway.

Who will give the safety guarantee to the population next to that dam.

Yes its good to have novel talk but to implement with ground realities it is a different matter.


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Dear mir sb,

 sir,
We all young journalists along with you.
Keep it up and God bless you.
Ghazanfar Awan( daily ausaf lahore

Habib Akram

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1.as far as i know there is no study done on this matter.
2. Korakaram road will be affected by building Diamir Bhasha too. And it will be more than 100 km.
3. Only a scientific study can guarantee safety of the people living there.
I think we should give it a thought.......even to reject!
Regards

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I can only laugh at Orya Maqbool who has given a different thought which cannot be materialized by any means. He is senior person he must have studied the case throughly then commented. As mateen Haider said that studies do not support it, he is absolutely right. 

Suppose that we convert this water storage into dam then where your Silk Highway will go? In its initial stages this lake has made sunk 30KM of this highway.

Who will give the safety guarantee to the population next to that dam.

Yes its good to have novel talk but to implement with ground realities it is a different matter.


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Hunza River crisis in Gigit Baltistan may be an opportunity as well. As Orya Maqbool Jan put, in Samaa’s program that the lake in Ata Abad may be tuned into a dam and once we build power houses there, this crisis will become an opportunity.

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lie, dishonesty, double standard & bribable act should be given constitutional protection as this is is common in Pakistani politics. They failed to make Pakistan progress. Starting from the President to Prime Minister and penetrating to all sects of life in Pakistan. all evil forces are in the parliament and supporting each other.
 
Hamid, I support you
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agreed w8 sumaira.
practices, like this also practised in past with connection of many journalists who appose govrnment polices or try to fulfill thier job as a journalist. but the issue is "we announce first and thinks later" therefor anyone can ............
and
 what about thr PR TRICKS???????
 

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Adnan Gill

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Mir Sahib,
 
I have no doubt that Salman Taseer or people like him want to embarass you by releasing this tape. I don't think anyone is questioning the motives of your opponents, but what I want to know is whether its true or not?
 
I wish you would have set the record straight by clearly stating, whether it's your voice on the tape or not? Whether you ever had such a conversation or not?
 
 
Folks,
 
Voice patterns of any given person are as unique as his/her fingerprints. Cheap and more powerful computers have transformed the art of `forensic voice identification` into a science. Such technology had been in use for many years by the CIA and the NSA to identify, isolate and track audio signatures of people of interest out of millions of other noises. Some of American police departments are even using this technology as lie-detectors. Perhaps, a news outlet could make a small investment in buying software like `VoiceVault` to set the record straight, once for all. Instead of guessing, such technologies should enable the media to confirm or deny such accusations.
 
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It would be nice if Mr. Mir just denied that it was his voice on the tape.
 
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Ali Hussain

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Yes Gill Sahib
 
I totally agree with you. Mir Sahib should come and clarify the allegations...whether correct or incorrect. It will be better that Mir Sahib should come forward after these have been published in Daily Times.
 
Regards
 
Ali Hussain

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My dear Hamid,
You are a great journalist who has made a name for himself in Talk-show TV  -  more strength to you.
Importantly, you are not opinionated; give everyone on your show a chance to speak their mind; do not show bias, and so on.
I would therefore ask you NOT to equate yourself with any other journalist on the News/Geo Team, particularly Dr. Shahid Masood who is NOTORIOUS for bludgeoning his guests into acquiescence, if not outright submission ... I know, for I have been a victim of his totally unfair editing, to which Ansar Abbasi was witness.
More than anything else, you do not have a second-in-command such as Dr. Shahid Masood has in the shape of my old friend, Tariq Butt. It is unreal seeing these two team up against anyone they have on their show.
I am always for you.
Kamran Shafi

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hamid mir

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I have just been informed by some colleagues from Peshawar that Taliban have released a statement and categorically denied all the contents of a tape concocted by Salman Taseer.I will share the details after getting the details.

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Well this voice is 100% Mr. Hamid sahib's..

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Adnan Gill

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Mir Sahib,
 
With due respect, it is immaterial and irrelevant to me what (supposed) Taliban say or claim. My interest is in your no uncertain acknowledgment or denial, that you never had any such conversation.
 
It is up to you whether you want to put the accusation to rest or not by acknowledging or denying it. Thanks.

hamid mir

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I have already said that this tape was fabricated.Now Taliban have also denied the tap.What is the use of our agencies.These Taliban call people,they send emails and our secret agencies cannot do anything except to launch dirty propoganda against innocent people.Here is the statement with the email address of Taliban.
 

From: muhammad umer [mailto:talibanme...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 5/16/2010 10:48 PM
Cc: talibanmediacenter
Subject: press release 16-05-2010 (on Behalf of ASIAN TIGERS)

This is a press release from Taliban Media Center commenting on the
fake audio tape

issued by some secret agency of pakistan. We are actively condumn the
reliability

of this tape since there was no conversatin like that in between us
and Mr. Hamid

Mir. Althoug we have talked with many different persons of media. It
is very often

and there is no doubt that they are not involved with us. This is seems to be a

conspiracy to destroy the reputation of Mujahideen and the brave people of this

country who want to bring truth in front while revealing the dark faces of this

nation.

Suppose, this audion tape can be accepted as a true one than it is
also demanded

that the video tapes of Shery Rehman, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari and Salman Taseer

should also be treated as the same degree. Since sexy pictures of
Salman Taseer's

daughter and sons are on media so can any one tell the nation how a loose

characterd person can be a governor of a province. What action should
government

agencies took? Why they are delaying?

Unfortunately the secret agenceis of Pakistan are directly opposing the nations

benefits and try to sabotash the well repudiated personalities and
institutions for

the greater interst of their own. We also like to remind the fake
movie, released

to media for defacing the actual good will of Mujahideen in swat. That
was prooved

to be faked later but on its basis army did the brutal assault/operation of the

whole area. Now people of this country must understand that Mujahideen are not

their enemies. But the government, politicians and military
beaurucrates are the

real enemies of this nation.

Also it is demanded by us that all the relevant records of phone calls
in between

us and the major media representatives should also be released for public

pursuation. ASIAN TIGERS had prooves for their satisfaction that's why they

kidnapped Khalid Khwaja. We contacted the ASIAN TIGERS on this matter and they

denied any kind of connections with either Mr.Hamid Mir or any other
person related

to media. They also condumns the fake audio tape. Also they demanded the actual

agenceies who bring this tape. If these agenceies have any kind of
proof then they

need to bring it in front. Who forced ASIAN TIGERS to kidnap Khalid Khwaja and

Colonel Imam with Asad Qureshi. What was the role or Gen. Hameed Gul
and Gen. Aslam

Beg. Where you fit Ibrahim Parachi and Shah Abdul Aziz. Either Gen.
Hameed Gul and

Gen. Aslam Beg are the actual Punjabi Taliban or this tape is the fake
one. Ibrahim

Parachi is also the CIA agent and Shah Abdul Aziz is a doule agent of
Xe and ISI.
If Mr. Hamid Mir attracted or give instructions to ASIAN TIGERS in
order to kidnap

Khalid Khwaja then they must have conversations more than once. These
tapes should

also be published for media. Are we right in demanding this action? If
Mr. Hamid

Mir gave proof to ASIAN TIGERS then he also gave instructions to them for

kidnapping Khalid Khwaja & company. We expect that very soon these tapes should

also be available on internet and youtube. By the way what exactly the dates of

this tape is.

Secondly, who gave the authority to PTCL or any government agency to
tape a phone

prior to any court order. By doing this PTCL is also establishing it's
reputaion as

an alley of terrorists (Govt. of Pakistan, ISI and Army). If this
happened again

then PTCL should ready to get the most suitable answer in proper
manner. Although

we know how PTCL was sold to these culprits and Khwaja was also involed in that

deal. Do you want to raise the curtain?

PTCl should clear it's position in order to bring the facts if this
tape is true or

fake. If they claim it is a true tape then they also give explanation
why they tape

these calls. If this is the fake one then they also took legal actions
against that

agency.

If PTCL will not take any action then no problem, we are here and you
have a very

little time for confession. Take care.

Note: This statement is on behalf of ASIAN TIGERS
 

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Salam every1.... Just need to knw one thing.. Y can't pak army go n interview taliban when Mr. Hamid mir sb can do it easily??? Secondly this voice is 100% hamid sb's.. Regards,
Shehryar Niaz...

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Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 12:09:56 -0700

Javed Afridi

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I am confused if it is indeed the voice of Hamid Mir, but still i would like to draw your attention towards the difficulties faced by a journalist in establishing contacts with these people and the tune one needs to adopt, to extract information from them. It might sound weird but this is the truth that you need to present yourself as one of their sympathizer, if you want to work on issues involving them but this does not necessarily mean that you should also report the way they want you to report.
At the end of the day, its a very complicated and dangerous duty to perform and you must give journalists, some relaxations in thier behaviours to interact with them.
As far as Hamid Mir’s accusations against KK are concerned, I think they were more inspired by his personal relations with KK rather than him being working on someone’s behalf. I am convinced that Hamid Mir would have never anticipated this fate for KK. May God bless Khalid Khwaja and wish Col. Imam and Asad Qureshi, a safe return home.
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Do you think these acts enjoy constitutional protection.  Who was punished for this ????

 

lie, dishonesty, double standard & bribable act should be given constitutional protection as this is is common in Pakistani politics. They failed to make Pakistan progress. Starting from the President to Prime Minister and penetrating to all sects of life in Pakistan. all evil forces are in the parliament and supporting each other.

 

Hamid, I support you

Pervaiz Toronto 

 

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You have admirers much beyond your community and mailgroups!

God bless.
Shahzad Nawaz

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From: hamid mir <mir...@yahoo.com>

Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 01:31:56 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: A new web war against Hamid Mir-warning for journalist community

 

Dear All,Thank you very much for your support.Today publisher of Daily Times and Governor Punjab Salman Taseer created a new record in the history of yellow journalism by publishing a one sided tape drama scandle against me.I would like to remind my journalist colleagues that Salman Taseer published many dirty articles against me in the past when i was banned by Musharraf regime on tv.Today he published the transcript of a concocted tape with some comments on the front page of his newspaper.Yes he tried to kill many birds with one bullet.

 

This is a conspiracy against me.Khalid Khawaja was assassinated in the month of April and this tape surfaced in the middle of May just few days before some important political and leagal events.I am consulting with my lawyers and i will go into court against Salman Taseer for publishing a one sided concocted story against me.My hands are clear and i have no fear except Allah who have provided me a new opportunity to unmask some more realities in the court of law.

 

This fabricated tape is part of a bigger drama against journalist community.Some elements want to silence the voice of media on certain national issues by blackmailing journalists like me.These people are very unhappy on those journalists who are raising voice for missing people,who are opposing government stand NRO and who criticized the fake degree holder members of the parliament.Many journalists are disliked by the government and some parts of the establishment.These journalists may become a target one by one.Some government ministers warned me on May 13th that some elements are trying to use the family of Khalid Khawaja against me and journalists like Ansar Abbasi,Kamran Khan and Shahid Masood will also face some new cases.I am sure we will face these kind of fabricated cases with unity.Thanks again for showing solidarity with me.

 

Hamid Mir
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Subject: Re: A new web war against Hamid Mir-warning for journalist community

I agree with haris and amir latif, hamid mir is a very courageous journalist whose credentials and credibilty are both impeccable.more power to him

Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Warid.


From: aamir latif <aam...@yahoo.com>

Date: Sat, 15 May 2010 01:10:25 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: A new web war against Hamid Mir-warning for journalist community

 

i agreee with haris. the same is happening with our colleague Tariq Habib, who works for Daily News, an evening english daily of Jang roup, after he did a story about mysterious disapperance of five pakistanis teaching at a dubai based medical college. the wife of one of the missing persons, wrote a letter to chief justice, and others informing them about diappearance of her husband and four others. she fears that her husband and others have been abducted and shifted to Gunatanamo Bay. As soon as the story appeared in the paper, he is receiving threats from a so-called Major Akram, who pretends himself to be an ISI operator. Unknown persons are chasing Mr habib, and calling him from different numbers besides hurling life threats.

The PFUJ, the KUJ  and other journalist organisation must take note of such tactics aimed at harassing the newsmen.

a



--- On Fri, 5/14/10, Haris Khan <ajaa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hamid Mir is an old target of enemies of Pakistan and democracy.American author Robert Spencer wrote many articles against him on the web pages.US Ambassador wrote a letter against Hamid Mir last year.On the other side some sponsored extremist elements in the Pakistani establishment accuse our journalist friend that he is working for CIA.This allegation was first made by an ISI sponsored intellectual Zaid Hamid when Hamid Mir was banned by Musharraf in 2007.Now these same elements have hatched a new conspiracy against Hamid Mir and concocted a so-called telephonic conversation of Hamid Mir with some unkown person.It is clear that this conversation is the creation of some dirty minds.They tried to prove that Hamid Mir is talking to some militant about Khalid Khawaja but interestingly Hamid Mir is actually trying to know that where is Khawaja?He can talk to anyone who calls him but this tape breaks many times and it is a clear computer work.So-called militant in the tape is accusing that Khawaja was involved in the bombing of a Mosque in Rawalpindi but Hamid Mir is not aware.Militant informing him that the son of Khawaja is part of Al Qaeda but Mir is not aware.Mir never confirmed these things despite the fact that other person trying to put some words in Mir's mouth.The main objective of this whole tape is to prove that Khawaja was a terrorist having links with CIA and Hamid Mir hates Qadianis.May be somebody in the agencies want to blackmail Hamid Mir.Some people trying to kill two birds with one stone.We think that this is a dirty work of some secret agencies because Hamid Mir is raising voice for missing persons.May be some more journalists will also come under fire in coming days but we don't need to worry.We will expose all the anti-media and anti-Pakistan elements in the establishment.

Shahid

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We certainly do live in interesting times, here we have TTP comming out in support of Hamid Mir, wonder who supports who.
 
 
 
 
 
 
Taliban take exception to audiotape
Monday, May 17, 2010
ISLAMABAD: The Taliban Media Centre issued a press release on behalf of Asian Tigers on Sunday commenting on the audiotape issued by, what it alleged, was some secret agency of Pakistan.

Following is the text of the press release: “We actively condemn the reliability of this tape since there was no conversation like that between us and Mr Hamid Mir. “Although we have talked with many different persons of media, it is very often and there is no doubt that they are not involved with us. This seems to be a conspiracy to destroy the reputation of Mujahideen and the brave people of this country who want to bring truth in front while revealing the dark faces of this nation.

“Suppose, this audio tape can be accepted as a true one, then it is also demanded that the video tapes of Sherry Rehman, Bilawal Bhutto Zardari and Salmaan Taseer should also be treated as the same degree. Since sexy pictures of Salmaan Taseer’s daughter and sons are on media, so can any one tell the nation how a loose character person can be a governor of a province? What action should government agencies take? Why they are delaying?

“Unfortunately, the secret agencies of Pakistan are directly opposing the nation benefits and trying to sabotage the well reputed personalities and institutions for the greater interest of their own. We also like to remind the fake movie, released to media for defacing the actual goodwill of Mujahideen in Swat. That was proved to be faked later but on its basis, the Army did the brutal assault/operation in the whole area. Now people of this country must understand that Mujahideen are not their enemies but the government, politicians and military bureaucrats are the real enemies of this nation.

“Also it is demanded by us that all the relevant records of phone calls between us and the major media representatives should be released for public persuasion. Asian Tigers had proved for their satisfaction that’s why they kidnapped Khalid Khwaja. We contacted the Asian Tigers on this matter and they denied any kind of connections with either Hamid Mir or any other person related to media. They also condemn the fake audio tape. Also they demanded the actual agencies who bring this tape. If these agencies have any kind of proof, then they need to bring it in front. Who forced Asian Tigers to kidnap Khalid Khwaja and Colonel Imam with Asad Qureshi? What was the role of Gen Hameed Gul and Gen Aslam Beg? Where you fit Ibrahim Paracha and Shah Abdul Aziz. Either Gen Hameed Gul and Gen Aslam Beg are the actual Punjabi Taliban or this tape is fake one. Ibrahim Paracha is also the CIA agent and Shah Abdul Aziz is a double agent of Xe and ISI.

“If Mr Hamid Mir attracted or give instructions to Asian Tigers in order to kidnap Khalid Khwaja, then they must have conversations more than once. These tapes should also be published for media. Are we right in demanding this action? If Mr Hamid Mir gave proof to Asian Tigers, then he also gave instructions to them for kidnapping Khalid Khwaja & company. We expect that very soon these tapes should also be available on Internet and Youtube. By the way what exactly the dates of this tape is.

“Secondly, who gave the authority to PTCL or any government agency to tape a phone prior to any court order. By doing this, PTCL is also establishing it’s reputation as an ally of terrorists (Govt of Pakistan, ISI and Army). If this happened again, then PTCL should ready to get the most suitable answer in proper manner. Although, we know how PTCL was sold to these culprits and Khwaja was also involved in that deal. Do you want to raise the curtain?

“PTCL should clear its position in order to bring the facts if this tape is true or fake. If they claim it is a true tape, then they should also give explanation why they tape these calls. If this is the fake one, then they should also take legal actions against that agency. “If PTCL will not take any action, then no problem, we are here and you have a very little time for confession. Take care.”







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From: "Adnan Gill" <adnan...@cox.net>
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Cc: "hamid mir" <mir...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: A new web war against Hamid Mir-warning for journalist community
Date: Sun, 16 May 2010 12:09:56 -0700

Mir Sahib,
 
With due respect, it is immaterial and irrelevant to me what (supposed) Taliban say or claim. My interest is in your no uncertain acknowledgment or denial, that you never had any such conversation.
 
It is up to you whether you want to put the accusation to rest or not by acknowledging or denying it. Thanks.
 
Adnan
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Sent: Sunday, May 16, 2010 11:42 AM
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I have just been informed by some colleagues from Peshawar that Taliban have released a statement and categorically denied all the contents of a tape concocted by Salman Taseer.I will share the details after getting the details.

--- On Sun, 5/16/10, Ali Hussain <alihuss...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Ali Hussain <alihuss...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: A new web war against Hamid Mir-warning for journalist community
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Cc: "hamid mir" <mir...@yahoo.com>
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 10:45 PM

Yes Gill Sahib
 
I totally agree with you. Mir Sahib should come and clarify the allegations...whether correct or incorrect. It will be better that Mir Sahib should come forward after these have been published in Daily Times.
 
Regards
 
Ali Hussain

On Sun, May 16, 2010 at 8:50 PM, Adnan Gill <adnan...@cox.net> wrote:
Mir Sahib,
 
I have no doubt that Salman Taseer or people like him want to embarass you by releasing this tape. I don't think anyone is questioning the motives of your opponents, but what I want to know is whether its true or not?
 
I wish you would have set the record straight by clearly stating, whether it's your voice on the tape or not? Whether you ever had such a conversation or not?
 
 
Folks,
 
Voice patterns of any given person are as unique as his/her fingerprints. Cheap and more powerful computers have transformed the art of `forensic voice identification` into a science. Such technology had been in use for many years by the CIA and the NSA to identify, isolate and track audio signatures of people of interest out of millions of other noises. Some of American police departments are even using this technology as lie-detectors. Perhaps, a news outlet could make a small investment in buying software like `VoiceVault` to set the record straight, once for all. Instead of guessing, such technologies should enable the media to confirm or deny such accusations.
 
Adnan
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Naqi Akbar

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an accidental dam as such. may be it is a divine intervention for a society and polity fast behaving like people of Baghdad 1258 AD.
frankly dams are created that way as they need a valley type structure. as per the available maps the hunza river water also contributes to Indus somewhere near Gilgit city.

On Sat, May 15, 2010 at 3:42 PM, Habib Akram <habib...@samaa.tv> wrote:

Dear All

Hunza River crisis in Gigit Baltistan may be an opportunity as well. As Orya Maqbool Jan put, in Samaa’s program that the lake in Ata Abad may be tuned into a dam and once we build power houses there, this crisis will become an opportunity.

Regards

Habib

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